by Shrillland » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:28 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:43 pm
by Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:49 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We've already reached the point of open ideological conflict. Left and right wingers regularly engage in street battles of various magnitudes already and people are only becoming more serious about that (see people starting to organize into groups for that exact purpose and it starting to become deadly for more details), and even the people who don't directly engage openly support one side or the other for the most part. This also bleeds into attacks on government officials, see the Congressional Baseball shooting and such things.
Unless something massive changes quickly (say the sudden rise of a very real external enemy for us to focus on) the republic is a dying beast. We're no longer countrymen, in the eyes of the other side you're the embodiment of everything wrong with the world and need to be both fought and prevented from ever gaining any sort of power. No matter who wins in 2020 they aren't going to unite the nation and the other side is only going to become more pissed off and determined to stop the winner and things are only going to get worse.
by Lakarta » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:49 pm
by Mystic Warriors » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:52 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We've already reached the point of open ideological conflict. Left and right wingers regularly engage in street battles of various magnitudes already and people are only becoming more serious about that (see people starting to organize into groups for that exact purpose and it starting to become deadly for more details), and even the people who don't directly engage openly support one side or the other for the most part. This also bleeds into attacks on government officials, see the Congressional Baseball shooting and such things.
Unless something massive changes quickly (say the sudden rise of a very real external enemy for us to focus on) the republic is a dying beast. We're no longer countrymen, in the eyes of the other side you're the embodiment of everything wrong with the world and need to be both fought and prevented from ever gaining any sort of power. No matter who wins in 2020 they aren't going to unite the nation and the other side is only going to become more pissed off and determined to stop the winner and things are only going to get worse.
by Lakarta » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:54 pm
Mystic Warriors wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:We've already reached the point of open ideological conflict. Left and right wingers regularly engage in street battles of various magnitudes already and people are only becoming more serious about that (see people starting to organize into groups for that exact purpose and it starting to become deadly for more details), and even the people who don't directly engage openly support one side or the other for the most part. This also bleeds into attacks on government officials, see the Congressional Baseball shooting and such things.
Unless something massive changes quickly (say the sudden rise of a very real external enemy for us to focus on) the republic is a dying beast. We're no longer countrymen, in the eyes of the other side you're the embodiment of everything wrong with the world and need to be both fought and prevented from ever gaining any sort of power. No matter who wins in 2020 they aren't going to unite the nation and the other side is only going to become more pissed off and determined to stop the winner and things are only going to get worse.
I agree. The left and right can no longer coexist anymore. Dont forget the unite the right rally.
by Russiyskaya Respublica » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:55 pm
by Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:56 pm
Mystic Warriors wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:We've already reached the point of open ideological conflict. Left and right wingers regularly engage in street battles of various magnitudes already and people are only becoming more serious about that (see people starting to organize into groups for that exact purpose and it starting to become deadly for more details), and even the people who don't directly engage openly support one side or the other for the most part. This also bleeds into attacks on government officials, see the Congressional Baseball shooting and such things.
Unless something massive changes quickly (say the sudden rise of a very real external enemy for us to focus on) the republic is a dying beast. We're no longer countrymen, in the eyes of the other side you're the embodiment of everything wrong with the world and need to be both fought and prevented from ever gaining any sort of power. No matter who wins in 2020 they aren't going to unite the nation and the other side is only going to become more pissed off and determined to stop the winner and things are only going to get worse.
I agree. The left and right can no longer coexist anymore. Dont forget the unite the right rally.
by Mystic Warriors » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:58 pm
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Mystic Warriors wrote:
I agree. The left and right can no longer coexist anymore. Dont forget the unite the right rally.
The left and right has discarded any pretense of cooperation the past few months, and are already throwing themselves at eachother's throats.
Luckily, it is still disorganized and mob-like, but frankly, if this trend continues, they'll start forming actual armed groups.
At this point, it's a gigantic powder keg waiting for a catalyst. A prominent politician being shot, a riot escalating into full-blown street warfare, or even something as simple as the partisans not accepting the results of the elections.
by Lakarta » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:59 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:59 pm
Mystic Warriors wrote:Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The left and right has discarded any pretense of cooperation the past few months, and are already throwing themselves at eachother's throats.
Luckily, it is still disorganized and mob-like, but frankly, if this trend continues, they'll start forming actual armed groups.
At this point, it's a gigantic powder keg waiting for a catalyst. A prominent politician being shot, a riot escalating into full-blown street warfare, or even something as simple as the partisans not accepting the results of the elections.
The partisans part could have happened. Trump said during the election that if he lost he wouldn't go away.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:04 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Mystic Warriors wrote:
The partisans part could have happened. Trump said during the election that if he lost he wouldn't go away.
The partisan part did happen. It doesn't take long to find people on the left who legitimately believe the "Not My President!" bullshit and think his entire administration is illegally in place.
by Frievolk » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:05 am
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Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.
by Right wing humour squad » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:06 am
by New Trasivolia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:07 am
by Mystic Warriors » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:07 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Mystic Warriors wrote:
The partisans part could have happened. Trump said during the election that if he lost he wouldn't go away.
The partisan part did happen. It doesn't take long to find people on the left who legitimately believe the "Not My President!" bullshit and think his entire administration is illegally in place.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:08 am
Frievolk wrote:It's very very possible for a civil conflict in the near future to happen. I'm not sure what the level of this conflict would be (Depending on what blows the aforementioned powder keg, it could be anywhere from a normal street fighting (a la Weimar Republic politics where people beat each other with sticks) to legit open warfare the likes of which the US has never seen.)
For America, it will definitely mean instability of a high degree, a dramatic drop in safety, population, and destruction of property and environment, and that's if nukes don't get involved.
I wonder what it'll mean for the world, though.
by Shrillland » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:10 am
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Frievolk wrote:It's very very possible for a civil conflict in the near future to happen. I'm not sure what the level of this conflict would be (Depending on what blows the aforementioned powder keg, it could be anywhere from a normal street fighting (a la Weimar Republic politics where people beat each other with sticks) to legit open warfare the likes of which the US has never seen.)
For America, it will definitely mean instability of a high degree, a dramatic drop in safety, population, and destruction of property and environment, and that's if nukes don't get involved.
I wonder what it'll mean for the world, though.
Canada (i.e. my current country of residence) is effectively going to be dragged directly into a hypothetical American civil war because of the inevitability of spillovers of violence across our enormous border, the loss of their largest and nearest trading partner, and a potential intervention if it gets out of control.
by Dooom35796821595 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:11 am
Shrillland wrote:Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Canada (i.e. my current country of residence) is effectively going to be dragged directly into a hypothetical American civil war because of the inevitability of spillovers of violence across our enormous border, the loss of their largest and nearest trading partner, and a potential intervention if it gets out of control.
Yeah, that's one of the things that I meant when I likened it to the Russian Civil War, a multi-level conflict of ideologies, states like Texas and California potentially breaking off of the sinking ship, and nations from around the world launching interventions and incidentally wanting a piece of the now unguarded American pie.
by Frievolk » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:12 am
Frankly, the only reason the US has survived this long is because of its rather inefficient neighbors both North and South.Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Frievolk wrote:It's very very possible for a civil conflict in the near future to happen. I'm not sure what the level of this conflict would be (Depending on what blows the aforementioned powder keg, it could be anywhere from a normal street fighting (a la Weimar Republic politics where people beat each other with sticks) to legit open warfare the likes of which the US has never seen.)
For America, it will definitely mean instability of a high degree, a dramatic drop in safety, population, and destruction of property and environment, and that's if nukes don't get involved.
I wonder what it'll mean for the world, though.
Canada (i.e. my current country of residence) is effectively going to be dragged directly into a hypothetical American civil war because of the inevitability of spillovers of violence across our enormous border, the loss of their largest and nearest trading partner, and a potential intervention if it gets out of control.
♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik ♔
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne ♔
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt ♔
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.
by New Trasivolia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:12 am
Shrillland wrote:Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Canada (i.e. my current country of residence) is effectively going to be dragged directly into a hypothetical American civil war because of the inevitability of spillovers of violence across our enormous border, the loss of their largest and nearest trading partner, and a potential intervention if it gets out of control.
Yeah, that's one of the things that I meant when I likened it to the Russian Civil War, a multi-level conflict of ideologies, states like Texas and California potentially breaking off of the sinking ship, and nations from around the world launching interventions and incidentally wanting a piece of the now unguarded American pie.
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:14 am
New Trasivolia wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Yeah, that's one of the things that I meant when I likened it to the Russian Civil War, a multi-level conflict of ideologies, states like Texas and California potentially breaking off of the sinking ship, and nations from around the world launching interventions and incidentally wanting a piece of the now unguarded American pie.
Due to the fact that America is a world superpower, this could potentially cause World War Three, if conflict erupts. The safest course of action would be to impeach Trump and Pent (because he's pretty bad too). I don't care if its through vote or coup d'etat, but Trump-Pence needs to go!
by Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:14 am
New Trasivolia wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Yeah, that's one of the things that I meant when I likened it to the Russian Civil War, a multi-level conflict of ideologies, states like Texas and California potentially breaking off of the sinking ship, and nations from around the world launching interventions and incidentally wanting a piece of the now unguarded American pie.
Due to the fact that America is a world superpower, this could potentially cause World War Three, if conflict erupts. The safest course of action would be to impeach Trump and Pent (because he's pretty bad too). I don't care if its through vote or coup d'etat, but Trump-Pence needs to go!
by Balack » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:15 am
New Trasivolia wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Yeah, that's one of the things that I meant when I likened it to the Russian Civil War, a multi-level conflict of ideologies, states like Texas and California potentially breaking off of the sinking ship, and nations from around the world launching interventions and incidentally wanting a piece of the now unguarded American pie.
Due to the fact that America is a world superpower, this could potentially cause World War Three, if conflict erupts. The safest course of action would be to impeach Trump and Pent (because he's pretty bad too). I don't care if its through vote or coup d'etat, but Trump-Pence needs to go!
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