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Mangera said police had foiled a planned transaction in the city of Surabaya on 3 October during which the 22-year-old mother was planning to sell her baby for 15 million rupiah (£743).

Still active as of Thursday, the Instagram account presents itself as promoting “family welfare” and providing solutions to family problems.

Featuring scores of photos of women in masks alongside other anonymous photographs, the account positioned itself as a platform for counselling or “consultation”, especially for young, unmarried and pregnant women – a social taboo in largely Muslim Indonesia.

The account also includes stories of women choosing to put their unborn babies up for adoption financial reasons.

With more than 700 followers, the account appears to have been active for just over one year.

The most recent post, dated 15 September, features a grainy black and white photo of a baby named “C86”.

The post lists the infant as a male, one-month-old, Muslim from central Java. Interested Instagram users are advised to contact the administrators via WhatsApp number.

Mangera told the Guardian he believed at least three babies had been sold via the page.

Bombadil wrote:So.. is there any argument that parents should have the right to sell their baby over social media? It's their baby so they can do what they want until a certain age no?

Or is selling babies on social media a bad idea?

eBaby?

Pasong Tirad wrote:

Bombadil wrote:So.. is there any argument that parents should have the right to sell their baby over social media? It's their baby so they can do what they want until a certain age no?

Or is selling babies on social media a bad idea?

eBaby?

I hate this pun. I just hate it so much.

And no, people aren't property and therefore shouldn't be sold. At any age.

Bombadil wrote:

Pasong Tirad wrote:I hate this pun. I just hate it so much.

And no, people aren't property and therefore shouldn't be sold. At any age.

What about the China version.. Alibaby..

Uxupox wrote:

Bombadil wrote:
What about the China version.. Alibaby..

need a minimum of 100 babies orders to initiate purchase.

Bombadil wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
need a minimum of 100 babies orders to initiate purchase.

Ri-ight... they have a B2C version called Taobao and baobao is a perfectly good moniker for a baby in Chinese so.. Taobaobao..

Bombadil wrote:

Pasong Tirad wrote:I hate this pun. I just hate it so much.

And no, people aren't property and therefore shouldn't be sold. At any age.

What about the China version.. Alibaby..

Kowani wrote:Y’kown, this thread makes me sad. Why do we live in a world where shit like this happens? (First person to blame capitalism gets a poisonous cookie.) Quick, easy answer: Ohh hell no!
Long answer. Abso-fuckin’-lutly not.

Dahon wrote:While I know nothing of Indonesian societal dynamics with regards to having kids out of wedlock, I'm gonna assume there's stigma enough against single mothers, enough to force them to discreetly sell their kids as soon as they give birth, if at all possible. It's not like there ain't a market for babies anyway -- childless couples, pedophiles, really unethical hospitals who need fresh neonatal organs...

... yeah, it's depressing.

EDIT: Read rest of post, seems like I was right. O God who won't make me drunk...

Bombadil wrote:

Pasong Tirad wrote:I hate this pun. I just hate it so much.

And no, people aren't property and therefore shouldn't be sold. At any age.

What about the China version.. Alibaby..

Kannap wrote:I thought most of the world came to agree that selling human beings was wrong years ago

Bombadil wrote:

Dahon wrote:While I know nothing of Indonesian societal dynamics with regards to having kids out of wedlock, I'm gonna assume there's stigma enough against single mothers, enough to force them to discreetly sell their kids as soon as they give birth, if at all possible. It's not like there ain't a market for babies anyway -- childless couples, pedophiles, really unethical hospitals who need fresh neonatal organs...

... yeah, it's depressing.

EDIT: Read rest of post, seems like I was right. O God who won't make me drunk...

Basically it's pretty bad, and a rate of some 10-15% deaths with illegal abortions.. it's legally banned and culturally banned by religion, where the legal system and religious edicts kind of sit side by side though the first is technically primary but the second can be culturally primary.

..and yeah, I can fully understand the selling, it's the buying I'm mostly perturbed about.

Valentine Z wrote:I can understand adoption, but breeding babies for selling them... is just wrong, man.

NERVUN wrote:

Bombadil wrote:
Basically it's pretty bad, and a rate of some 10-15% deaths with illegal abortions.. it's legally banned and culturally banned by religion, where the legal system and religious edicts kind of sit side by side though the first is technically primary but the second can be culturally primary.

..and yeah, I can fully understand the selling, it's the buying I'm mostly perturbed about.

Unfortunately, I get the buying. Childless couples. Couples without males (Especially in Asian cultures), etc.

Then it gets dark.

Uxupox wrote:

Kannap wrote:I thought most of the world came to agree that selling human beings was wrong years ago

not in its entirety.

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:This is pretty disgusting.

Kannap wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
not in its entirety.

I figured certain parts of the world still engaged in slavery, just didn't know it was this big still.