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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:24 pm

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Uppity lower caste girls dared touch their darling sons.


I don't think it was a caste issue.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:26 pm

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I don't think it was a caste issue.


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So in other words, it's basically a school to establish literacy to the children of the poorest residents of the poorest state?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:26 pm

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I don't think it was a caste issue.


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I'm going to assume that they may be pariah or untouchable.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:27 pm

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Galloism wrote:I still can't get over the parents doing that.

What the actual fuck.


According to India Today, which is what I am reading regarding the case, these boys were in the habit of sexually harassing the girls and writing obscene things on the walls of the school. This is not a one time incident. The article I'm reading also states that nothing about it all was done, even after the girls complained to school officials.

I don't condone violence, but gods do I see why these girls did what they did to the boys. They are fed up.

Of course, the boys' parents as well as some other people in the village went haywire. The girls were beaten with not just bamboo sticks but also metal rods. Come the fuck on.

This might not have been the most justifiable action, but it was still an action that could have been needed. I mean, the parents went crazy. Their actions could not have been justified, especially breaking in and beating girls.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:28 pm

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I'm going to assume that they may be pariah or untouchable.

As the poor in India generally are.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:30 pm

If anyone here is interested, this is a very concise report made about the incident: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/b ... wsource=cl

It's a tad long, but it gives more information on what happened and has quite a few interviews. The incident Sunday escalated due to one of the boys slapping one of the girls after they asked them to leave and began sexually harassing them. When the girls said something to the boys, one of the them slapped one of the younger girls for opposing them. Then the girls reacted. After that, the boys left and told people in the village. Three women came with some of the boys, and were the ones who started beating up the girls. Then more people came.

This is an ongoing issue. This is not the first time the girls in the school have had problems with boys and men in the village.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:30 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
According to India Today, which is what I am reading regarding the case, these boys were in the habit of sexually harassing the girls and writing obscene things on the walls of the school. This is not a one time incident. The article I'm reading also states that nothing about it all was done, even after the girls complained to school officials.

I don't condone violence, but gods do I see why these girls did what they did to the boys. They are fed up.

Of course, the boys' parents as well as some other people in the village went haywire. The girls were beaten with not just bamboo sticks but also metal rods. Come the fuck on.

This might not have been the most justifiable action, but it was still an action that could have been needed. I mean, the parents went crazy. Their actions could not have been justified, especially breaking in and beating girls.

Beating people, outside of a strict self defense scenario, is not justifiable.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:31 pm

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So in other words, it's basically a school to establish literacy to the children of the poorest residents of the poorest state?


Mostly for the girls, but yes. Apparently the schools have a mandated 75%-25% female to male ratio across India.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:31 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
According to India Today, which is what I am reading regarding the case, these boys were in the habit of sexually harassing the girls and writing obscene things on the walls of the school. This is not a one time incident. The article I'm reading also states that nothing about it all was done, even after the girls complained to school officials.

I don't condone violence, but gods do I see why these girls did what they did to the boys. They are fed up.

Of course, the boys' parents as well as some other people in the village went haywire. The girls were beaten with not just bamboo sticks but also metal rods. Come the fuck on.

This might not have been the most justifiable action, but it was still an action that could have been needed. I mean, the parents went crazy. Their actions could not have been justified, especially breaking in and beating girls.


The more I read about the case, the more I see why the girls did what they did. They complained to the school about what was happening, and the school didn't do anything.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:32 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:The incident Sunday escalated due to one of the boys slapping one of the girls after they asked them to leave and began sexually harassing them. When the girls said something to the boys, one of the them slapped one of the younger girls for opposing them. Then the girls reacted. After that, the boys left and told people in the village. Three women came with some of the boys, and were the ones who started beating up the girls. Then more people came.

Ah, if that's the case, that's a bit of a different thing. Attacking someone is a cause for them acting in self defense.

None of the outlets we had seen so far reported it this way.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:32 pm

Galloism wrote:
The South Falls wrote:This might not have been the most justifiable action, but it was still an action that could have been needed. I mean, the parents went crazy. Their actions could not have been justified, especially breaking in and beating girls.

Beating people, outside of a strict self defense scenario, is not justifiable.

That severely, no. But beating them with metal rods is not alright either.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:33 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Galloism wrote:Beating people, outside of a strict self defense scenario, is not justifiable.

That severely, no. But beating them with metal rods is not alright either.

Clearly not. Beating people with metal rods should be saved for life threatening scenarios and Bruce Willis movies.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:33 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:The incident Sunday escalated due to one of the boys slapping one of the girls after they asked them to leave and began sexually harassing them. When the girls said something to the boys, one of the them slapped one of the younger girls for opposing them. Then the girls reacted. After that, the boys left and told people in the village. Three women came with some of the boys, and were the ones who started beating up the girls. Then more people came.

Ah, if that's the case, that's a bit of a different thing. Attacking someone is a cause for them acting in self defense.

None of the outlets we had seen so far reported it this way.


Like I said, when and if you have a chance, check the investigative report I linked to a few posts ago. It sheds a lot of light on the ongoing incident. Sunday's hoopla is not a one time thing. It's probably a culmination of an ongoing problem.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That severely, no. But beating them with metal rods is not alright either.

Clearly not. Beating people with metal rods should be saved for life threatening scenarios and Bruce Willis movies.

Watching a Bruce Willis movie is a life threatening situation, dammit!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:40 pm

"some of the girls are in fact battling for their lives."

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:41 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Galloism wrote:Ah, if that's the case, that's a bit of a different thing. Attacking someone is a cause for them acting in self defense.

None of the outlets we had seen so far reported it this way.


Like I said, when and if you have a chance, check the investigative report I linked to a few posts ago. It sheds a lot of light on the ongoing incident. Sunday's hoopla is not a one time thing. It's probably a culmination of an ongoing problem.


It's definitely* a culmination of an ongoing problem.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:41 pm

They're interviewing the Supaul DM about this incident, but my Hindi is too rudimentary to provide a translation. If anyone else can, please, do.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/b ... wsource=cl

According to the achor, Pappu Yadav, the magistrate in Supaul, Bihar, is downplaying the incident.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:00 pm

The boys were trespassing and harassing the girls. They probably were pushed because seriously, 13 year olds beating 17 year olds doesn't make sense.

The boys then brought weapons and adults to beat the girls and their teachers.

Why the cops didn't do something when the girls initially complained is the issue. Women are often treated as second class citizens in that part of the world, who both have to take being harassed because of the societal attitude that they are inferior, and are treated as whores if they don't argue hard enough (but may be hurt if they DO argue hard enough, as seen in this case). I've seen it happen in my school in the US over and over as well -- and the boys who do this are not happy when we stop that shit cold.

WTF business did they have trespassing in an all-girls boarding school and refusing to leave? Yes, arrest them for that. The girls didn't enter the boys' school to push them and tell them to get out, did they?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:01 pm

Katganistan wrote:The boys were trespassing and harassing the girls. They probably were pushed because seriously, 13 year olds beating 17 year olds doesn't make sense.

The boys then brought weapons and adults to beat the girls and their teachers.

Why the cops didn't do something when the girls initially complained is the issue. Women are often treated as second class citizens in that part of the world, who both have to take being harassed because of the societal attitude that they are inferior, and are treated as whores if they don't argue hard enough (but may be hurt if they DON'T argue hard enough). I've seen it happen in my school in the US over and over as well -- and the boys who do this are not happy when we stop that shit cold.

WTF business did they have trespassing in an all-girls boarding school and refusing to leave? Yes, arrest them for that. The girls didn't enter the boys' school to push them and tell them to get out, did they?


It was a shared playing field.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:03 pm

Katganistan wrote:The boys were trespassing and harassing the girls. They probably were pushed because seriously, 13 year olds beating 17 year olds doesn't make sense.

The boys then brought weapons and adults to beat the girls and their teachers.

Why the cops didn't do something when the girls initially complained is the issue. Women are often treated as second class citizens in that part of the world, who both have to take being harassed because of the societal attitude that they are inferior, and are treated as whores if they don't argue hard enough (but may be hurt if they DON'T argue hard enough). I've seen it happen in my school in the US over and over as well -- and the boys who do this are not happy when we stop that shit cold.

WTF business did they have trespassing in an all-girls boarding school and refusing to leave? Yes, arrest them for that. The girls didn't enter the boys' school to push them and tell them to get out, did they?


According to the reports in India Today, when the girls opposed the boys, one of the boys reached out and slapped one of the 12 year old girls. That's when the girls reacted in self-defense. The boys left and, I guess 1 or 2 hours later, they came back with adults. IT reports they came back at first with three women who started beating the girls. Then a mob from the town surrounded the school and after the principal asked for people to remain calm, the mob attacked the girls.

This is an ongoing problem and the girls had complained to the school about the boys constantly harassing them and writing lewd comments on the school's walls.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:05 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Katganistan wrote:The boys were trespassing and harassing the girls. They probably were pushed because seriously, 13 year olds beating 17 year olds doesn't make sense.

The boys then brought weapons and adults to beat the girls and their teachers.

Why the cops didn't do something when the girls initially complained is the issue. Women are often treated as second class citizens in that part of the world, who both have to take being harassed because of the societal attitude that they are inferior, and are treated as whores if they don't argue hard enough (but may be hurt if they DON'T argue hard enough). I've seen it happen in my school in the US over and over as well -- and the boys who do this are not happy when we stop that shit cold.

WTF business did they have trespassing in an all-girls boarding school and refusing to leave? Yes, arrest them for that. The girls didn't enter the boys' school to push them and tell them to get out, did they?


It was a shared playing field.


That's what is not very clear. Some sources report that the boys trespassed on the girls's hostel residence. I wonder if it's a mistranslation. Unless the residence is inside school grounds...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:08 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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It was a shared playing field.


That's what is not very clear. Some sources report that the boys trespassed on the girls's hostel residence. I wonder if it's a mistranslation. Unless the residence is inside school grounds...


I got it from the India Times. It said that the playing field was shared but they trespassed on the girls hostel while writing messages on the walls and then later broke into the school to do the bit with sticks and iron bars.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:11 pm

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That's what is not very clear. Some sources report that the boys trespassed on the girls's hostel residence. I wonder if it's a mistranslation. Unless the residence is inside school grounds...


I got it from the India Times. It said that the playing field was shared but they trespassed on the girls hostel while writing messages on the walls and then later broke into the school to do the bit with sticks and iron bars.


The source I consulted initially didn't mention a hostel being trespassed. But the video report on it did. The news anchor talks about it in one of the breaks. It could be a mistranslation of the sources. I don't know.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:12 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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I got it from the India Times. It said that the playing field was shared but they trespassed on the girls hostel while writing messages on the walls and then later broke into the school to do the bit with sticks and iron bars.


The source I consulted initially didn't mention a hostel being trespassed. But the video report on it did. The news anchor talks about it in one of the breaks. It could be a mistranslation of the sources. I don't know.

Someone fetch me an Indian!

No, from India! Curse Columbus, he really made this unnecessarily confusing.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:13 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I got it from the India Times. It said that the playing field was shared but they trespassed on the girls hostel while writing messages on the walls and then later broke into the school to do the bit with sticks and iron bars.


The source I consulted initially didn't mention a hostel being trespassed. But the video report on it did. The news anchor talks about it in one of the breaks. It could be a mistranslation of the sources. I don't know.


The BBC reported it as a break into the school during the last bit. I tend to trust them, they have a 2 source rule on news stories.

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