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Postby Ihury » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:19 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
The WunderWaffle wrote:You do know the alert happened because of legislation Obama signed into law?

Yes, while the timing does seem a little odd, it could've happened due to delays or happened a little earlier than expected, as 2:18 is close to 2:20.


Do you really think that both Obama and Trump are by any means “independent”? They are both actors of the shadow government.


What is this shadow government of which you speak, and how do I join them? It must be absolutely badass to go around and introduce yourself as "Envoy of the Shadow Government" or something along those lines.

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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:19 am

Wake up in the morning.

Leave to get tea with sugar, and coffee.

Comes back.

Sees weird conspiratorial shit.

What next? Qanon?
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:20 am

Ihury wrote:
Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
Do you really think that both Obama and Trump are by any means “independent”? They are both actors of the shadow government.


What is this shadow government of which you speak, and how do I join them? It must be absolutely badass to go around and introduce yourself as "Envoy of the Shadow Government" or something along those lines.

Defector of the shadows? Is that what he is?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:22 am

I love how a secret cult bent on bringing about the antichrist would just leave clues to their existence to increase the odds of them being discovered for literally no reason. Well, I guess it would be a little funny.
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Postby Ihury » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:22 am

The South Falls wrote:
Ihury wrote:
What is this shadow government of which you speak, and how do I join them? It must be absolutely badass to go around and introduce yourself as "Envoy of the Shadow Government" or something along those lines.

Defector of the shadows? Is that what he is?


Who knows? As long as I get my awesome title and theme song, those shadow dudes can count me in.

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Postby Rkr » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:24 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Isaiah 2:18 - And the idols will totally disappear.

I guess American Idol is getting canceled... :?

Probably not. Anything in a holly book should be taken with a grain of salt anyway.

Except for the holy book of garlic bread

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Postby Grand Unity of the Righteous Nation Cele » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:24 am

So, there is some giant all-powerful conspiracy that secretly controls the world. How do I join?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:25 am

Grand Unity of the Righteous Nation Cele wrote:So, there is some giant all-powerful conspiracy that secretly controls the world. How do I join?


You must be a lizardman or synthetic.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:26 am

Grand Unity of the Righteous Nation Cele wrote:So, there is some giant all-powerful conspiracy that secretly controls the world. How do I join?

If you need to ask, then you don't get to join. Sorry.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:27 am

Why wouldn't the man upstairs stop this? He's already all-powerful.
The New California Republic wrote:
Grand Unity of the Righteous Nation Cele wrote:So, there is some giant all-powerful conspiracy that secretly controls the world. How do I join?

If you need to ask, then you don't get to join. Sorry.

Take some complimentary lizard cookies.
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:28 am

Ihury wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Defector of the shadows? Is that what he is?


Who knows? As long as I get my awesome title and theme song, those shadow dudes can count me in.

Same here. Then dismantle them from the inside.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:48 am

Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
What does 2:18 mean? The answer lies in the Relevation.

John 2:18 - Little children, it is the last hour. As you have heard that the antichrist will come, even now there are many antichrists. By this we know that it is the last hour.


Or it could be a reference to the Massacre of the Innocents in Matthew 2:18.

Or the creation of Eve in Genesis 2:18.

Or Christ's discussion of fasting in Mark 2:18.

Or the report of the shepherds in Luke 2:18

Or Peter's address to the Pentecostal crowds in Acts 2:18.

But personally I think it's a reference to the warning against false idols in Habbakuk 2:18...

Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman?
Or an image that teaches lies?
For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation;
he makes idols that cannot speak.


Which is clearly a subtle message from the anti-Trump resistance inside the White House.

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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:50 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Medwedian Democratic Federation wrote:
What does 2:18 mean? The answer lies in the Relevation.

John 2:18 - Little children, it is the last hour. As you have heard that the antichrist will come, even now there are many antichrists. By this we know that it is the last hour.


Or it could be a reference to the Massacre of the Innocents in Matthew 2:18.

Or the creation of Eve in Genesis 2:18.

Or Christ's discussion of fasting in Mark 2:18.

Or the report of the shepherds in Luke 2:18

Or Peter's address to the Pentecostal crowds in Acts 2:18.

But personally I think it's a reference to the warning against false idols in Habbakuk 2:18...

Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman?
Or an image that teaches lies?
For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation;
he makes idols that cannot speak.


Which is clearly a subtle message from the anti-Trump resistance inside the White House.

Personally, I think someone had a bad clock, and they meant to send it at some other, more obviously symbolic time.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:53 am

The New California Republic wrote:Isaiah 2:18 - And the idols will totally disappear.

I guess American Idol is getting canceled... :?
The Archregimancy wrote:
But personally I think it's a reference to the warning against false idols in Habbakuk 2:18...

Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman?
Or an image that teaches lies?
For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation;
he makes idols that cannot speak.

American Idol is getting canceled. Confirmed. :(
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Postby Sefy the Great » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:55 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Isaiah 2:18 - And the idols will totally disappear.

I guess American Idol is getting canceled... :?
The Archregimancy wrote:
But personally I think it's a reference to the warning against false idols in Habbakuk 2:18...

Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman?
Or an image that teaches lies?
For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation;
he makes idols that cannot speak.

American Idol is getting canceled. Confirmed. :(

you are thinking too shallow. American Idol is being replaced with The Apprentice.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:04 am

More seriously, any literal reading of the Bible - for those inclined to place stock on literal readings - would show that the entertaining interpretation in the OP is false.

It's directly stated in Scripture that we have no way of knowing the hour or the day of the Second Coming. The Parable of the Virgins in Matthew 25 is quite explicit on this point:

Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. (Matthew 25:13)


That's a direct and unambiguous quote from Jesus Christ; which I would think would rather take precedence over any modern, and likely anachronistic, interpretation of the deeply allegorical passages of Revelation. And does rather suggest that if He is planning on returning imminently, He wouldn't choose to broadcast the fact to all and sundry via the timing of White House alerts.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:09 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Probably not. Anything in a holly book should be taken with a grain of salt anyway.


Holly books are difficult to read anyway; the spiny points on the holly leaves tend to make the experience somewhat painful.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:15 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Probably not. Anything in a holly book should be taken with a grain of salt anyway.


Holly books are difficult to read anyway; the spiny points on the holly leaves tend to make the experience somewhat painful.

And the fact that holly leaves are quite small, the writing on them would be tiny; it would likely be into microfiche territory. Have you ever tried shoving holly leaves into a microfiche reader? I doubt that it would do it much good...
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:25 am

Lots of 2:18 references (which begs the question why this one was chosen), so I wouldn't read anything into this.

Let's see... there's

Including Colossians 2:18 about false prophecies.

And this James 2:18 (faith without works is dead).

Maybe it was a covert order to get out there and do some good. :p

I doubt it, incidentally, as I place zero stock in literal readings.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:26 am

Oh fucking sigmar here we go.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:29 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Oh fucking sigmar here we go.

I was joking. :p

That's the only available response for stuff like this.
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Postby Page » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:46 am

So a man who worships himself is the messenger of God, and the end times are coming in the form of global currency? K then.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:47 am

Page wrote:So a man who worships himself is the messenger of God, and the end times are coming in the form of global currency? K then.

Going purely by what the various 2:18 parts of the Bible say, there could be just about anything about to happen. :lol2:
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:49 am

If it happened at 3:16 would we have discovered that Steve Austin was the Antichrist?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:56 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Oh fucking sigmar here we go.

I was joking. :p

That's the only available response for stuff like this.
Oh that was not to you it was a general response to the op :lol:
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