Saudis murder Washington Post writer

[Genivaria]

Get back to me when we execute someone for being gay, their religion, or for watching a game of fucking soccer.

I bet that's on his Christmas wish list.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Jerzyland]

There's evidence. There's a recording of the strangulation which lasted eight minutes. The Trump administration which is cozy with MBS would love to lie about this and say there was no evidence, if it were possible. However, even they know they can not pull that off. Yet you persist. smh.

There is no need for America to take action and I doubt America will, but with this being said I am still curious when America will acknowledge the mistake of supporting Iraq which directly opposes American interests.

The subject is Saudi terror. Action will be a cessation of arm sales, which can be controlled by congress.

[Genivaria]

Get back to me when we execute someone for being gay, their religion, or for watching a game of fucking soccer.

Oh dear, they're not America. Therefore they're ISIS. Just post a picture of Hitler next to them why don't you.

This statement makes no sense.
Are you having a stroke?

[Mardla]

Oh dear, they're not America. Therefore they're ISIS. Just post a picture of Hitler next to them why don't you.

This statement makes no sense.
Are you having a stroke?

The comic equated them.

[Khataiy]

There is no need for America to take action and I doubt America will, but with this being said I am still curious when America will acknowledge the mistake of supporting Iraq which directly opposes American interests.

The subject is Saudi terror. Action will be a cessation of arm sales, which can be controlled by congress.

"Saudi terror" there is no terror here Erdogan is lying and he has a reason to make such lies because the Saudis support SDF and Haftar and have condemned him for helping Qatar, Erdogan is using this to improve his global image because he knows he is widely unpopular in the west.

[Ifreann]

It doesn't matter who it's about, it doesn't make sense. It's stupid.

I can't imagine why you would believe that I would accept the GOP narrative on anything, ever. And I am not saying that American liberals cannot come up with conspiracy theories. I'm sure they can. I'm saying that the one you are putting forward is shit and not going to get anyone to vote Democrat who would otherwise not have.

Guess what? This is what fighting fire with fire looks like.

No it isn't. You making up shit is not equivalent Republican supporting news media smearing Khashoggi to cover for Trump wanting to keep taking Saudi money. You aren't fighting fire with fire, you are pissing into the wind.

It doesn't matter if it sounds stupid to you or I. We need to punch the bully in the face hard right now. He's clearly in trouble on this bit with the Saudis and Khashogi's murder.
Sorry, but the low road must be taken from time to time when your enemy is on the low road.

No one is going to vote Democrat because of your stupid conspiracy theory. No one. Making shit up on NSG will do nothing. Not one single vote will be cast because of this. You're just making yourself look bad.

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It's like we have Saudi royalty on NSG.

We might, there's loads of them.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

[Genivaria]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

CNN cited a Saudi source in London who knew Mr Mutreb as describing him as a colonel in Saudi intelligence, while the popular Arabic app MenoM3ay - which enables users to see the names people have linked to phone numbers - lists a man with that name as a colonel in the royal court.

CNN cited a Saudi source in London who knew Mr Mutreb as describing him as a colonel in Saudi intelligence, while the popular Arabic app MenoM3ay - which enables users to see the names people have linked to phone numbers - lists a man with that name as a colonel in the royal court.

Oh holy shit balls.

[Ethel mermania]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

This appears to go pretty high up, the question becomes does the prince have some plausible deniability or not.. if so. He could possibly ride it out while having his friend being the fall guy. If not he may very well be the fall guy.

[Jerzyland]

Guess what? This is what fighting fire with fire looks like.

No it isn't. You making up shit is not equivalent Republican supporting news media smearing Khashoggi to cover for Trump wanting to keep taking Saudi money. You aren't fighting fire with fire, you are pissing into the wind.

It doesn't matter if it sounds stupid to you or I. We need to punch the bully in the face hard right now. He's clearly in trouble on this bit with the Saudis and Khashogi's murder.
Sorry, but the low road must be taken from time to time when your enemy is on the low road.

No one is going to vote Democrat because of your stupid conspiracy theory. No one. Making shit up on NSG will do nothing. Not one single vote will be cast because of this. You're just making yourself look bad.

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Maybe you're right, but I doubt it. You don't live in a rural county that went for Donnie. You don't even live in the US. But your somewhat demeaning post is over the specifics and doesn't address the tactical. Seems you're a tad behind the times in the matter of what goes now in US politics. Iffy, maybe you haven't learned yet, but in America it is now okay to make yourself look bad if you can make the other side look worse. That's right. It works best in rapid succession, a constant flow of bad looking stuff. Like using a fire hose that squirts out nothing but lies, stupid conspiracies and half baked ideas. Unfortunately, that's what these people want to hear. It's what Trump & Pals give them daily. Going with the normal stuff is a failed punchline to some joke fake news they don't get, which thus proves you're part of the liberal mob. The sad thing, come to think of it, is probably more than half of them would be even more inclined to go to the polls and vote for some GOP person with stupid ideas that are constructed from lies, bigotry, victimhood and greed. That's what is selling out here. The only way to crack the code is to look as bad as they are. Politicians and pundits have to talk their kind of shit, then this audience is pliable and can be misdirected from the original FOXNews/Breitbart misdirection. You know the old saying, Iffy, when in Rome... as in, like.. Rome, MS or Rome, AL or Rome TN etc etc etc.

[Jerzyland]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

Some people will accept whatever cover story MBS says as long as they can hide behind it and not take direct fire. It better be one damn good explanation.

[Ifreann]

Maybe you're right, but I doubt it. You don't live in a rural county that went for Donnie. You don't even live in the US. But your somewhat demeaning post is over the specifics and doesn't address the tactical.

Even if we accept that the tactic of making up lies about the Trump administration would win votes for Democrats, and I doubt that it would, it definitely won't make any difference on NSG, where most posters can't or won't vote.

Seems you're a tad behind the times in the matter of what goes now in US politics. Iffy, maybe you haven't learned yet, but in America it is now okay to make yourself look bad if you can make the other side look worse. That's right. It works best in rapid succession, a constant flow of bad looking stuff. Like using a fire hose that squirts out nothing but lies, stupid conspiracies and half baked ideas. Unfortunately, that's what these people want to hear. It's what Trump & Pals give them daily. Going with the normal stuff is a failed punchline to some joke fake news they don't get, which thus proves you're part of the liberal mob. The sad thing, come to think of it, is probably more than half of them would be even more inclined to go to the polls and vote for some GOP person with stupid ideas that are constructed from lies, bigotry, victimhood and greed. That's what is selling out here. The only way to crack the code is to look as bad as they are. Politicians and pundits have to talk their kind of shit, then this audience is pliable and can be misdirected from the original FOXNews/Breitbart misdirection. You know the old saying, Iffy, when in Rome... as in, like.. Rome, MS or Rome, AL or Rome TN etc etc etc.

What is the point in turning America into Putin's Russia to beat Trump? You're burning the village down to save it.

[Greater Cesnica]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

Some people will accept whatever cover story MBS says as long as they can hide behind it and not take direct fire. It better be one damn good explanation.

Yeah, but they're getting fucked diplomatically. Saudi Arabia I mean.

[The Archregimancy]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

I liked this detail:

Turkish officials have also said that Dr Tubaigy was carrying a bone saw when he flew into Istanbul Ataturk Airport from Riyadh at 03:13 on 2 October on a private jet with the tail number HZSK2.

I know that I carry a bone saw with me whenever I fly into Istanbul. It's a must-have accessory when you're strolling down Divan Yolu Caddesi. All the cool people have one.

[The Archregimancy]

who can honestly say they even heard of this guy prior to his alleged murder.

Me.

Admitting I was based in the UAE from 2013-2016.

[Petrasylvania]

A lot of connections to the Crown Prince in the alleged hit squad

I liked this detail:

Turkish officials have also said that Dr Tubaigy was carrying a bone saw when he flew into Istanbul Ataturk Airport from Riyadh at 03:13 on 2 October on a private jet with the tail number HZSK2.

I know that I carry a bone saw with me whenever I fly into Istanbul. It's a must-have accessory when you're strolling down Divan Yolu Caddesi. All the cool people have one.

[Greater Cesnica]

who can honestly say they even heard of this guy prior to his alleged murder.

Me.

Admitting I was based in the UAE from 2013-2016.

holy shit did I just see a staff member double post!? *gasps*

Anyways, besides that, I also heard of him before. I watched his interview with CBS last year.

[Asherahan]

Don't they have video evidence of the murder and the culprits with a bone saw?

[Jerzyland]

Maybe you're right, but I doubt it. You don't live in a rural county that went for Donnie. You don't even live in the US. But your somewhat demeaning post is over the specifics and doesn't address the tactical.

Even if we accept that the tactic of making up lies about the Trump administration would win votes for Democrats, and I doubt that it would, it definitely won't make any difference on NSG, where most posters can't or won't vote.

Seems you're a tad behind the times in the matter of what goes now in US politics. Iffy, maybe you haven't learned yet, but in America it is now okay to make yourself look bad if you can make the other side look worse. That's right. It works best in rapid succession, a constant flow of bad looking stuff. Like using a fire hose that squirts out nothing but lies, stupid conspiracies and half baked ideas. Unfortunately, that's what these people want to hear. It's what Trump & Pals give them daily. Going with the normal stuff is a failed punchline to some joke fake news they don't get, which thus proves you're part of the liberal mob. The sad thing, come to think of it, is probably more than half of them would be even more inclined to go to the polls and vote for some GOP person with stupid ideas that are constructed from lies, bigotry, victimhood and greed. That's what is selling out here. The only way to crack the code is to look as bad as they are. Politicians and pundits have to talk their kind of shit, then this audience is pliable and can be misdirected from the original FOXNews/Breitbart misdirection. You know the old saying, Iffy, when in Rome... as in, like.. Rome, MS or Rome, AL or Rome TN etc etc etc.

What is the point in turning America into Putin's Russia to beat Trump? You're burning the village down to save it.

I dunno bc I'm not saying that would be the result. No one knows.

Also, there's few functioning villages left in rural America irl. Their lively-hoods got packed up and shipped to China since Dick Nixon opened them up back in 1972 (see how easy that was). The smart young people who were out here moved closer to the cities years and years ago. The place is just full of old complaining geezers, lol, and their stupid dead end kids. So... it's just a bunch of idiots left behind talking to similar idiots on stuff like Reddit or maybe conversing out in the parking lot in between mind eating shifts at Walmart. They only need a competing noise they sort of like. Think of it as Alternative FOXNews. Muddy their muddy water with a prettier color mud, that's all.

[Jerzyland]

Some people will accept whatever cover story MBS says as long as they can hide behind it and not take direct fire. It better be one damn good explanation.

Yeah, but they're getting fucked diplomatically. Saudi Arabia I mean.

I feel Trump and pals are trying to push this whole thing past election day, i.e. before the public is made privy to any evidence or explanation. However, they might not be able to hold out.

[Bombadil]

SA finally admit it.. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... SApp_Other

Saudi Arabia has said the journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who disappeared after visiting the country’s consulate in Istanbul on 2 October, is dead.

The news, which cited preliminary findings from an official investigation, was announced on state television on Friday. It said a fight broke out between Khashoggi and people who met him in the consulate, leading to the death of the reporter.

Khashoggi was a US permanent resident who wrote for the Washington Post.

It was also announced that Gen Ahmed al-Asiri, an intelligence official linked to the case, had been dismissed. Eighteen Saudi nationals were said to have been arrested.

More details soon …

[Bombadil]

Typical scenario.. you send 15 people to gently question a journalist, a fight breaks out and he accidently gets bone sawed to death, goes back to my earlier joke..

Ahmed, what is that?
A bonesaw, you said I should bring one..
I said ‘phone cord’, Ahmed, remember to bring the phone cord
Oh right..
This is just like when I wanted you to bring my deodorant and asked you to pack my Axe..
Oh dear, I dun goofed again..

Canned laughter, fade to credits..

[Audioslavia]

It's nice that you don't deny Iraq's government is a criminal syndicate run by Tehran that uses terrorism to support itself with full NATO backing, which is way more concerning than some insignificant journalist.

Then you should condemn PKK while you're at

Still ignoring the Iraqi boy run over by a tank for no reason

This is a big deal yet I haven't heard an ounce of western outrage to it despite the fact that is an American tank, American trained fighters and American weapons this diffidently trumps some random journalist dying and whatever accusations Erdogan makes.

*snipped links*

These are the savages and criminals that America is supporting and no one can explain it but when it comes to the Saudis ALLEGEDLY doing something to a random individual there is outrage

Then go start a thread on it and stop threadjacking.

This isn't a threadjack this is... *snip*

That was a threadjack. A threadjack is a repeated attempt to change the subject of a thread. This is a *** warning for threadjacking ***.

[Jerzyland]

SA finally admit it.. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... SApp_Other

Saudi Arabia has said the journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who disappeared after visiting the country’s consulate in Istanbul on 2 October, is dead.

The news, which cited preliminary findings from an official investigation, was announced on state television on Friday. It said a fight broke out between Khashoggi and people who met him in the consulate, leading to the death of the reporter.

Khashoggi was a US permanent resident who wrote for the Washington Post.

It was also announced that Gen Ahmed al-Asiri, an intelligence official linked to the case, had been dismissed. Eighteen Saudi nationals were said to have been arrested.

More details soon …

Good luck painting a plausible picture of this, House of Saud Sawed. No single bullet theories are gonna work with a fucking fist fight. A fist fight?

Only an idiot would believe that would lead to an apparent planned dismemberment.

[Ifreann]

Even if we accept that the tactic of making up lies about the Trump administration would win votes for Democrats, and I doubt that it would, it definitely won't make any difference on NSG, where most posters can't or won't vote.

What is the point in turning America into Putin's Russia to beat Trump? You're burning the village down to save it.

I dunno bc I'm not saying that would be the result. No one knows.

Also, there's few functioning villages left in rural America irl. Their lively-hoods got packed up and shipped to China since Dick Nixon opened them up back in 1972 (see how easy that was). The smart young people who were out here moved closer to the cities years and years ago. The place is just full of old complaining geezers, lol, and their stupid dead end kids. So... it's just a bunch of idiots left behind talking to similar idiots on stuff like Reddit or maybe conversing out in the parking lot in between mind eating shifts at Walmart. They only need a competing noise they sort of like. Think of it as Alternative FOXNews. Muddy their muddy water with a prettier color mud, that's all.

That's Putin's Russia. Lies not intended to convince people of something that isn't true, but to make people so paranoid that they don't trust anything, so they're vulnerable and easier to control. Gaslighting on a national scale.