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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:09 am

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:12 am


Rogue killers...in the Saudi embassy?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:55 am

A joint Saudi/Turkish team have just entered the Consulate. Apparently the Saudis have limited it to a visual search and banned the use of luminol.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:55 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A joint Saudi/Turkish team have just entered the Consulate. Apparently the Saudis have limited it to a visual search and banned the use of luminol.


Gee, I wonder why they would do that lol
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A joint Saudi/Turkish team have just entered the Consulate. Apparently the Saudis have limited it to a visual search and banned the use of luminol.


Gee, I wonder why they would do that lol


They also had a cleaning company in just before the investigative team...
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:56 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A joint Saudi/Turkish team have just entered the Consulate. Apparently the Saudis have limited it to a visual search and banned the use of luminol.

"The accusation of murder is just a political hit job on Brett Kavanaugh."
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:58 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
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Gee, I wonder why they would do that lol


They also had a cleaning company in just before the investigative team...


Nothin shady here. Nope, he totally left on his own.

Fucking hell lol, this would be comical if it wasn't actually something that happened.
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Postby Tokora » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:14 am

Vistulange wrote:So, what does this have to do with the quality of the leadership? The ERE was able to come back from odds that would have ended it.

Along with the mentioned bouts of antisemitism that go on and off until the turks arrived (one of their few saving graces) I was mostly referring to near the end of the empire when it started decaying (which I assume was partly caused by bad decisions) allowing the Turks to move in.

Vistulange wrote:Again, no relevance to the quality of its leadership. I mean, the whole "playing the Great Power game" began mostly in the late 18th century or the early 19th century, when the Empire was at its weakest, and the Jannissary Corps were obliterated in 1826, in the "Auspicious Event". So...I'm not seeing the relation to quality of Ottoman leadership.

The sultan was the one who implemented the practice of enslaving non-muslim children and his descendents waited 400 years before reforming the Janissaries. The sultanate had the leadership to end it sooner, but not unlike modern Turkey, decided that the forced assimilation of minorities was a fair price for their existence.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:A joint Saudi/Turkish team have just entered the Consulate. Apparently the Saudis have limited it to a visual search and banned the use of luminol.


Gee, I wonder why they would do that lol

Luminol is haram?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:10 pm

CNN is reporting that the Saudis are preparing to admit Khashoggi was killed as a result of an interrogation gone wrong.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:CNN is reporting that the Saudis are preparing to admit Khashoggi was killed as a result of an interrogation gone wrong.

Holy shit.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:CNN is reporting that the Saudis are preparing to admit Khashoggi was killed as a result of an interrogation gone wrong.

Watch Donnie go back on harsh punishment with "It was just an accident, bro!"

If it was just an accident, why the forensic specialist? Seems more like Turkey bent Saudi Arabia the fuck over and so they came up with the accident story in desperation.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:35 pm

Presumably by 'interrogation' they mean torture, unless he took a particularly pointed question to the chest.

Turkey have been saying all along that he was killed during torture and interrogation.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:38 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Presumably by 'interrogation' they mean torture, unless he took a particularly pointed question to the chest.

Turkey have been saying all along that he was killed during torture and interrogation.

"enhanced interrogation"
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Postby Page » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:40 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The BBC are suggesting the US and UK are now considering boycotting the Saudi investment conference.


But they're not considering a boycott of the genocide in Yemen, the US and UK make way too much money selling the Saudis missiles to use on school buses.
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Ifreann wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Presumably by 'interrogation' they mean torture, unless he took a particularly pointed question to the chest.

Turkey have been saying all along that he was killed during torture and interrogation.

"enhanced interrogation"


Fuck those American weasel words.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:43 pm

Page wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The BBC are suggesting the US and UK are now considering boycotting the Saudi investment conference.


But they're not considering a boycott of the genocide in Yemen, the US and UK make way too much money selling the Saudis missiles to use on school buses.


Why would the UK or the US align themselves against the Saudi Arabians over what is currently happening in Yemen. That's not good in geopolitical strategum.
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Uxupox wrote:
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But they're not considering a boycott of the genocide in Yemen, the US and UK make way too much money selling the Saudis missiles to use on school buses.


Why would the UK or the US align themselves against the Saudi Arabians over what is currently happening in Yemen. That's not good in geopolitical strategum.


Because it's genocide. Because American and British taxpayers are paying for bombs that blow kids to pieces, supporting a regime that has deliberately destroyed Yemen's food supply and infrastructure to cause mass starvation and disease. History will hold us accountable. What Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen will be discussed alongside the Armenian genocide, the Rwandan genocide, and the Holocaust. And we won't just be the people who knew about it but did nothing, we are the people who helped make it happen. I am ashamed of my country for being a part of this.

A good geopolitical strategum does not excuse participation in genocide.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:58 pm

Page wrote:
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Why would the UK or the US align themselves against the Saudi Arabians over what is currently happening in Yemen. That's not good in geopolitical strategum.


Because it's genocide. Because American and British taxpayers are paying for bombs that blow kids to pieces,

I mean, really it's more like American and British workers are getting paid to make bombs that blow kids to pieces.
What Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen will be discussed alongside the Armenian genocide, the Rwandan genocide, and the Holocaust.

Eh, probably more alongside the Holodomor, and only if they can manage to bump up their counts (which they seem well on track to do, tbf).
And we won't just be the people who knew about it but did nothing, we are the people who helped make it happen. I am ashamed of my country for being a part of this.

Fair, it does suck, like a lot.

A good geopolitical strategum does not excuse participation in genocide.

I mean, would you rather the Chinese sell them the bombs to blow up the kids instead, and then we lose both the money and the Saudis, should we need them to do shit for us, and the kids still get blown up either way?
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:59 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:CNN is reporting that the Saudis are preparing to admit Khashoggi was killed as a result of an interrogation gone wrong.

"in retrospect we really should have left the bone saw at home, that was not a good call"
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:04 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:CNN is reporting that the Saudis are preparing to admit Khashoggi was killed as a result of an interrogation gone wrong.

"in retrospect we really should have left the bone saw at home, that was not a good call"


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Postby Painisia » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:52 am

If there is evidence of Saudi involvement in this case, then Trump has to impose sanctions. It is not ideal for a conservative president loved by many Christians to support Saudi Arabia, a tyrannical islamic theocracy. I wonder what will be the Saudi`s response? But this is going to be destructive to the world market and economy. Another oil embargo?
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:41 am

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Senkaku wrote:"in retrospect we really should have left the bone saw at home, that was not a good call"


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Painisia wrote:If there is evidence of Saudi involvement in this case, then Trump has to impose sanctions. It is not ideal for a conservative president loved by many Christians to support Saudi Arabia, a tyrannical islamic theocracy. I wonder what will be the Saudi`s response? But this is going to be destructive to the world market and economy. Another oil embargo?


I can't speak for all Christians, but it's clear the fundamentalist Evangelicals will defend him no matter what he does. It's been abundantly clear from the beginning that the only god Trump worships is himself, but the fanatics seem to think Trump is a servant of God. Why they think a cognitively impaired conman who would have amounted to nothing if not for his father, a serial philanderer, a man who has openly called for deliberately killing civilians has the blessing of God, I don't know, but I know they think so and they will excuse his every action.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:03 pm

Page wrote:
Painisia wrote:If there is evidence of Saudi involvement in this case, then Trump has to impose sanctions. It is not ideal for a conservative president loved by many Christians to support Saudi Arabia, a tyrannical islamic theocracy. I wonder what will be the Saudi`s response? But this is going to be destructive to the world market and economy. Another oil embargo?


I can't speak for all Christians, but it's clear the fundamentalist Evangelicals will defend him no matter what he does. It's been abundantly clear from the beginning that the only god Trump worships is himself, but the fanatics seem to think Trump is a servant of God. Why they think a cognitively impaired conman who would have amounted to nothing if not for his father, a serial philanderer, a man who has openly called for deliberately killing civilians has the blessing of God, I don't know, but I know they think so and they will excuse his every action.


Because he supports Israel. Gotta try and cause the End of Days and all that.
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