Saudis murder Washington Post writer

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Saudi Arabia has allegedly murdered a Washington Post writer when he visited the Saudi Consulate in Turkey to get papers relating to his divorce.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-saudi-politics-dissident-exclusive/exclusive-turkish-police-believe-saudi-journalist-khashoggi-was-killed-in-consulate-sources-idUKKCN1MG0ID

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45775819

Fears are growing over missing Washington Post writer Jamal Khashoggi, after Turkish officials said they believe he has been murdered.
Mr Khashoggi, a Saudi national, went missing after visiting the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Tuesday.
A Turkish official told the BBC that initial investigations indicated he was murdered there.
Saudi Arabia has denied the accusations, saying it is "working to search for him".
The Washington Post said it would be a "monstrous and unfathomable act" if he had been killed.
The BBC's Istanbul correspondent, Mark Lowen, said it would plunge Turkish-Saudi relations into an unprecedented crisis.
Turkish officials have opened an investigation and have been speaking to the media on condition of anonymity.
They have not given any evidence for their claim, nor suggested how he might have been killed.

The forces of tyranny are getting bolder, see also the disappearance of the head of Interpol in China. If Turkey's allegations do prove to be true, and the Saudi response does seem to suggest they have kidnapped him at the very least, then I ask once again if these are the sort of people Western democracies should be involved with. I think not.

[Tuya]

Its the Saudis. Am i in any way surprised?

No.

[Mehrabad]

Swap Saudi Arabia for Iran and then just imagine the media frenzy in the West.

[Aclion]

*doesn't trust turkey either* >.>

[Petrasylvania]

But They're Our Allies!

Yep, if this had been Iran there'd be RAEG in right-wing media for days.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

*doesn't trust turkey either* >.>

Even so the man has mysteriously disappeared after visiting the consulate and the Saudis are denying knowing what happened to him.

[Icadias]

Lmao,Saudis,home of corrupted leaders,and um,monarchs,now murder

[The Archregimancy]

Swap Saudi Arabia for Iran and then just imagine the media frenzy in the West.

Well...

1) This latest news has only just come out, so there hasn't been much chance to react fully yet, and

2) There's already a building media frenzy across the political spectrum of UK and US media outlets:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45758096
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... sh-sources
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/mi ... 0dd3893838
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... fcd4e68e68
https://www.foxnews.com/world/washingto ... paper-says
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/06/euro ... index.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... -kingdoms/

I couldn't find a story on the Daily Mail's website, mind.

[Dreshand]

Well then... I'm not sure how much I was expecting this

[Dahon]

They're getting bolder because democracy is in retreat. They're getting bolder because -- and oh how they all quibble over minor details! -- they feel the United States and most of eastern and central Europe are now going to join them.

The power of contemporary authoritarianism is not so much to punish the innocent -- though there certainly is that -- as it is to protect the guilty. And they'll protect each other once it comes -- till it's convenient to ditch solidarity in favor of a fresh new illiberal undemocratic brutality.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Turkey has asked to search the Saudi consulate

I suspect the answer will be a big no.

[Page]

Given that the Saudis are committing genocide in Yemen and are willing to bomb school buses and deliberately inflict famine and pestilence on the entire populace, it's not hard to believe they'd kill a journalist too.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Well, holy shit my condolences to the writers family and the alleged murderer should be locked up.

[Uxupox]

Given that the Saudis are committing genocide in Yemen and are willing to bomb school buses and deliberately inflict famine and pestilence on the entire populace, it's not hard to believe they'd kill a journalist too.

They get imprisoned and killed if possible as they do not allow any sort of independent media within the country to operate.

[Shofercia]

They did say that divorce can be deadly...

The husband's obligation is then to provide financial support for the divorced wife for a period of four months and ten days. A woman can only obtain a divorce with the consent of her husband or judicially if her husband has harmed her. In practice, it is very difficult for a Saudi woman to obtain a judicial divorce.

Maybe they're just going for gender equality? First they're letting women drive, now they're not letting men divorce, what's next?

[Aclion]

*doesn't trust turkey either* >.>

Even so the man has mysteriously disappeared after visiting the consulate and the Saudis are denying knowing what happened to him.

For all we know the turks abducted him.

[Senkaku]

Turkey has asked to search the Saudi consulate

I suspect the answer will be a big no.

I believe the Saudis let them (don't have the sauce on me but I'll look around for it), but really all the Saudis have to do is mop up the blood before the Turks arrive, fold him up into a diplomatic bag like Philip does to that girl in that scene in the Americans, and smile and say "gosh we thought he went home with YOU!"

[Digital Planets]

First we kidnap the head of Interpol, so the organization will disband. Then we kidnap a writer of the Washington Post to make his company fall.

Now we go after the Canadian government.

[Painisia]

This is not surprising. The Saudis are known for their shady activities, from nightclub activities in London to international bribes. Now, some Saudi agents are going to show up at my door for writing this.

[Senkaku]

First we kidnap the head of Interpol, so the organization will disband. Then we kidnap a writer of the Washington Post to make his company fall.

Now we go after the Canadian government.

"Just get them all in the CN Tower and do the ol' plane trick again lol"

[Petrasylvania]

They did say that divorce can be deadly...

The husband's obligation is then to provide financial support for the divorced wife for a period of four months and ten days. A woman can only obtain a divorce with the consent of her husband or judicially if her husband has harmed her. In practice, it is very difficult for a Saudi woman to obtain a judicial divorce.

Maybe they're just going for gender equality? First they're letting women drive, now they're not letting men divorce, what's next?

Oh hey, using a story on Saudi skullduggery to take a completely unrelated shot at women.

[Vistulange]

Even so the man has mysteriously disappeared after visiting the consulate and the Saudis are denying knowing what happened to him.

For all we know the turks abducted him.

...

To what end?

I mean, Khashoggi is (hopefully not "was") rather critical of the Saudi regime, and Turkish-Saudi relations aren't the best. Not terrible, not excellent, but somewhere in between. What on Earth would Turkey have to gain from removing a Washington Post columnist which was critical of MBS and the system in Saudi Arabia? The good graces of Saudi Arabia, for removing a critical voice?

I like bashing on my country as much as this entire forum does, but come on. Turkey has nothing to gain by abducting or killing Khashoggi.

[Washington Resistance Army]

where tf do you even put a body in a consulate

[Loben]

maybe he was furious over the "democracy dies in darkness" Tag line.

[The New California Republic]

where tf do you even put a body in a consulate

Wall cavity, attic, diplomatic bags, hidden in one of the gaudy-looking desks, the sky's the limit.