Presidential elections of Brazil 2018 (Second Round/POLL)

[Great Minarchistan]

Sir or Madam OP, I am trying to understand the economic and educational demographics of the Brazilian elections. Could you share some information about how the richer, middle-class and poor mostly vote? Looking at the results of the first round, I see that Bolsonaro overwhelmingly won in the southern part of Brazil, which, if I remember correctly, is doing better compared to the eastern part. Does that mean that wealthier people prefer Bolsonaro? Then again, I also remember reading from a newspaper that really poor people fed up with gang violence support him too. Is it possible to draw any conclusions?

It´s sir.

See, the majority of the poor population is located in the northeastern part of the country and a little in the north as well. That's where Haddad is getting more votes. In other regions, the poverty index is lower and Bolsonaro leads. Summing up:
Lower class: Haddad
Middle class: Haddad / Bolsonaro (Most in bolsonaro)
Upper class: Haddad / Bolsonaro (Majority in Bolsonaro)
In relation to violence, this is not only limited to the poor class.

I disagree, lots of poor people also vote for Bolsonaro. It's a matter of geographical location (basically the entire Northeast, patronized by the Worker's Party, has never let them down on elections).

[Omega State]

It´s sir.

See, the majority of the poor population is located in the northeastern part of the country and a little in the north as well. That's where Haddad is getting more votes. In other regions, the poverty index is lower and Bolsonaro leads. Summing up:
Lower class: Haddad
Middle class: Haddad / Bolsonaro (Most in bolsonaro)
Upper class: Haddad / Bolsonaro (Majority in Bolsonaro)
In relation to violence, this is not only limited to the poor class.

I disagree, lots of poor people also vote for Bolsonaro. It's a matter of geographical location (basically the entire Northeast, patronized by the Worker's Party, has never let them down on elections).

You´re a Brazilian? Just curious.
About the poor people, the majority of votes in the Northeast was in Haddad if you see the demographic map in the G1(Brazilian Site)

[Great Minarchistan]

You´re a Brazilian? Just curious.

Yeah

About the poor people, the majority of votes in the Northeast was in Haddad if you see the demographic map in the G1(Brazilian Site)

I mean yes, and it's always been. Regardless of the candidate, the NE states support the workers party massively.

[Omega State]

You´re a Brazilian? Just curious.

Yeah

About the poor people, the majority of votes in the Northeast was in Haddad if you see the demographic map in the G1(Brazilian Site)

I mean yes, and it's always been. Regardless of the candidate, the NE states support the workers party massively.

Uma cidade aqui no Nordeste teve maioria Bolsonaro. Foi a cidade do Paulista em Pernambuco. Haddad em segundo e Marina ficou em terceira.
A city here in the Northeast had Bolsonaro majority. It was the city of Paulista in Pernambuco. Haddad in second and Marina in Third.

[Great Minarchistan]

Yeah


I mean yes, and it's always been. Regardless of the candidate, the NE states support the workers party massively.

Uma cidade aqui no Nordeste teve maioria Bolsonaro. Foi a cidade do Paulista em Pernambuco. Haddad em segundo e Marina ficou em terceira.
A city here in the Northeast had Bolsonaro majority. It was the city of Paulista in Pernambuco. Marina was third.

Yeah, but pretty scarce municipalities overall. The largest threat for Haddad was Ciro Gomes, and he was merely limited to Ceará (which is truthfully another state that's blindly devoted to the Ferreira Gomes' family).

[Omega State]

Uma cidade aqui no Nordeste teve maioria Bolsonaro. Foi a cidade do Paulista em Pernambuco. Haddad em segundo e Marina ficou em terceira.
A city here in the Northeast had Bolsonaro majority. It was the city of Paulista in Pernambuco. Marina was third.

Yeah, but pretty scarce municipalities overall. The largest threat for Haddad was Ciro Gomes, and he was merely limited to Ceará (which is truthfully another state that's blindly devoted to the Ferreira Gomes' family).

Sim. (Pode falar portuguÊs se quiser, mas coloca a tradução embaixo)Se eles tivessem votado em Haddad Bolsonaro tava ferrado.
Yes.If they had voted for Haddad Bolsonaro was screwed.

[Omega State]

BPE 2018
"Teremos um dos nossos em Brasília", diz Bolsonaro durante visita ao Bope.
"We will have one of ours in Brasilia," says Bolsonaro during his visit to Bope.

[Great Minarchistan]

Yeah, but pretty scarce municipalities overall. The largest threat for Haddad was Ciro Gomes, and he was merely limited to Ceará (which is truthfully another state that's blindly devoted to the Ferreira Gomes' family).

Sim. (Pode falar portuguÊs se quiser, mas coloca a tradução embaixo)Se eles tivessem votado em Haddad Bolsonaro tava ferrado.
Yes.If they had voted for Haddad Bolsonaro was screwed.

(prefiro falar só inglês por conforto mesmo, rs)

But yeah, Haddad didn't pose a significant threat imo, Bolsonaro had a 20-point margin over him iirc.

[Omega State]

Sim. (Pode falar portuguÊs se quiser, mas coloca a tradução embaixo)Se eles tivessem votado em Haddad Bolsonaro tava ferrado.
Yes.If they had voted for Haddad Bolsonaro was screwed.

(prefiro falar só inglês por conforto mesmo, rs)

But yeah, Haddad didn't pose a significant threat imo, Bolsonaro had a 20-point margin over him iirc.

(Blz)
In my opinion Bolsonaro will win. Mainly because the PT has lost credibility. Well, at least some people recognized the real face of the PT.

[Great Minarchistan]

(prefiro falar só inglês por conforto mesmo, rs)

But yeah, Haddad didn't pose a significant threat imo, Bolsonaro had a 20-point margin over him iirc.

(Blz)
In my opinion Bolsonaro will win. Mainly because the PT has lost credibility. Well, at least some people recognized the real face of the PT.

Unless if he does a massive fuckup, he's due to win the election already. 45-50% of his voters are already consolidated, so he doesn't need much effort to convince another few millions and win it.

[Omega State]

(Blz)
In my opinion Bolsonaro will win. Mainly because the PT has lost credibility. Well, at least some people recognized the real face of the PT.

Unless if he does a massive fuckup, he's due to win the election already. 45-50% of his voters are already consolidated, so he doesn't need much effort to convince another few millions and win it.

I think the biggest problem is his vice-president candidate. If I supported Bolsonaro, I would put the Dom Luiz de Orleans e Bragança as a vice-president.
His vice-president already said some shit and the image of Bolsonaro was a little stained.

[Great Minarchistan]

Unless if he does a massive fuckup, he's due to win the election already. 45-50% of his voters are already consolidated, so he doesn't need much effort to convince another few millions and win it.

I think the biggest problem is his vice-president candidate. If I supported Bolsonaro, I would put the Dom Luiz de Orleans e Bragança as a vice-president.
His vice-president already said some shit and the image of Bolsonaro was a little stained.

Definitely not enough stained

I'd vote for him for mere pragmatism, I'm not a fan of giving a chance for the workers party by the fifth election in a row. Nor a fan of letting a convicted criminal influence a president.

[Omega State]

I think the biggest problem is his vice-president candidate. If I supported Bolsonaro, I would put the Dom Luiz de Orleans e Bragança as a vice-president.
His vice-president already said some shit and the image of Bolsonaro was a little stained.

Definitely not enough stained

I'd vote for him for mere pragmatism, I'm not a fan of giving a chance for the workers party by the fifth election in a row. Nor a fan of letting a convicted criminal influence a president.

I'd vote for him for mere pragmatism,
You read my thoughts. This would be the my reason voted for him, but, nope.

[Omega State]

BPE 2018
Isso pode ser de extrema importância e decisivo para as eleições!
This can be extremely important and decisive for the elections!


Petistas(Eleitores do partido de Haddad) protestam contra o Haddad em video publicado no twitter.
Petistas (Haddad party voters) protest against Haddad in a video posted in twitter.

Click here

[Great Minarchistan]

BPE 2018
Isso pode ser de extrema importância e decisivo para as eleições!
This can be extremely important and decisive for the elections!


Petistas(Eleitores do partido de Haddad) protestam contra o Haddad.
Petistas (Haddad party voters) protest against Haddad.

Click here

His vote consolidation is being severely undermined. 94% of the polled Bolsonaro voters said that they wouldn't switch their intentions. That number was 89% for Haddad, down from mid-90% iirc

[Omega State]

BPE 2018
Isso pode ser de extrema importância e decisivo para as eleições!
This can be extremely important and decisive for the elections!


Petistas(Eleitores do partido de Haddad) protestam contra o Haddad.
Petistas (Haddad party voters) protest against Haddad.

Click here

His vote consolidation is being severely undermined. 94% of the polled Bolsonaro voters said that they wouldn't switch their intentions. That number was 89% for Haddad, down from mid-90% iirc

There's a swinging effect on this "pre-second round." One goes down, another goes up.

[Omega State]

PERSONAL OPINION
Na minha opinião, a diferença entre Bolsonaro e Haddad em porcentagem será maior na próxima pesquisa se esse video for verdadeiro.
In my opinion, the difference between Bolsonaro and Haddad in percentage will be higher in the next survey if this video is true.

[Omega State]

BPE 2018
President of PDT(Party of Ciro Gomes) denies approximation for Haddad
Presidente do PDT(Partido do Ciro Gomes) nega aproximação a Haddad no segundo turno.

[Omega State]

PERSONAL OPINION
O dia de hoje tem sido intenso em relação a politica brasileira. Haddad está perdendo força cada vez mais, até mesmo do próprio partido. A vitória de Bolsonaro no segundo turno, no atual momento, pode se dizer que é certa.

Today has been intense in relation to Brazilian politics. Haddad is losing more and more strength, even from the party itself. The victory of Bolsonaro in the second round, at the present moment, can be said that it is certain.

[San Lumen]

PERSONAL OPINION
O dia de hoje tem sido intenso em relação a politica brasileira. Haddad está perdendo força cada vez mais, até mesmo do próprio partido. A vitória de Bolsonaro no segundo turno, no atual momento, pode se dizer que é certa.

Today has been intense in relation to Brazilian politics. Haddad is losing more and more strength, even from the party itself. The victory of Bolsonaro in the second round, at the present moment, can be said that it is certain.

RIP Amazon. It was nice knowing you.

[Omega State]

BPE 2018 ENTREVISTA
Claudia Wild: Deputado Bolsonaro, qual o recado o senhor gostaria de deixar para a comunidade internacional?

Jair Bolsonaro: O cartão de visitas que eu apresento para a comunidade internacional são minhas idas à Coréia do Sul, Japão, Israel e Estados Unidos. Eu demonstrei com quais países, com qual perfil de país, nós queremos prioritariamente restabelecer nossas ligações. E eu quero também afastar aquela sombra de desconfiança no tocante ao Brasil: é tradição nossa elegermos corruptos e inimigos dos Estados Unidos. Tenho demonstrado, muito, que a nossa tônica não será essa. Nós seremos realmente amigos de países como esses que eu tenho citado. Tenho dito que a primeira viagem minha, caso eleito, será para Israel. A segunda, para os Estados Unidos. Temos alguns interlocutores junto ao governo americano. Em chegando (à presidência), nós pretendemos aproximar, buscar o bilateralismo.

CW: O cientista político Walid Phares informou em seu Twitter que o Irã estaria interferindo nas eleições brasileiras com a ajuda da Síria e do Líbano. O Senhor tem ciência desse fato?

JB: Sim, temos conhecimento e já passamos para as autoridades responsáveis. Há muito interesse geopolítico envolvido nas eleições brasileiras.

CW: A imprensa nacional e internacional tem se referido ao senhor com adjetivos nada agradáveis. Algo a dizer?

JB: Boa parte dos jornalistas internacionais recebem releases da imprensa nacional e os repercutem. Esses rótulos, esses rótulos… Olha só: me chamam de racista. Minha filha é neta do “Paulo Negão”, que tem sangue negro e nordestino. Esse negócio de machismo, ora, foi uma frase que proferi a uma deputada, no calor de uma discussão. As pessoas, antes de formar opinião, tinham que ver o que eu falei, não o que dizem que eu falei. Sobre os gays, posicionei-me contra o kit gay nas escolas, para crianças na faixa de seis anos de idade.

CW: Falam também em fascismo. Lula declarou, em 1979, em entrevista à Revista Playboy, admirar Hitler e Mao Tse Tung. (Aliás, ele nunca se retratou disso). O senhor tem alguma referência de estadista?

JB: Margaret Thatcher.
Bolsonaro me recebeu em sua casa na Barra da Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro



CW: Com relação à lei de imigração recentemente aprovada – e muito controvertida – qual é sua opinião?

JB: O estado de Roraima tem recebido muitos refugiados da Venezuela. Esses refugiados, coitados, são pessoas sofridas. Fogem de um regime horrível. Mas o Estado brasileiro tem o dever de controlar quem entra e sai do país. É questão de segurança. Vamos rever essa lei aí…



CW: Com relação às inúmeras novas embaixadas criadas na era petista, há muitas críticas sobre os critérios de seleção dos países escolhidos. Qual é sua opinião sobre isso?

JB: Veja bem, esse foi um critério… um critério problemático. O PT saiu abrindo embaixadas em países sem a menor relevância comercial ou estratégica para o Brasil. A ideia petista era agradar esses países para obter votos para uma vaga no Conselho de Segurança da ONU. Não temos bomba atômica e não vejo essa necessidade de estarmos no Conselho de Segurança. Essas embaixadas geram muitas despesas. Passaremos um pente fino nisso aí.

(Bolsonaro saca o celular e nos mostra vídeo de um comício de Haddad, no qual Guilherme Boulos da extrema esquerda, incita uma turba de milhares de pessoas a invadir a residência do candidato. O vídeo é chocante. Impossível não pensar na menina Laura, que acabávamos de conhecer. Falamos do atentado à faca proferido por um ex-militante do PSOL . Neste momento, o candidato se mostrou visivelmente emocionado e suspendemos alguns instantes a entrevista.)

CW: Somos um país com muita pobreza. O que o senhor acha do gasto de dinheiro dos pagadores de impostos para a grande imprensa?

JB: Olha, tem os anúncios… anúncios das estatais e dos governos. Há também uma desproporcionalidade entre a audiência e número de leitores e essa distribuição de verbas. Isso tem que ser revisto.

CW: Para finalizar, estando o senhor a poucos dias do segundo turno, qual a mensagem que o senhor gostaria de deixar?

JB: Quero ser o presidente de todos os brasileiros, um presidente honesto e com Deus no coração, patriota, que respeitará a família, as crianças em sala de aula, que respeitará a lei, que procurará promover o comércio com nações prósperas e democráticas, sem viés ideológico. Mas que pegará pesado com a questão da segurança pública. É preciso unir nosso povo, brancos, negros, nordestinos, sulistas, para buscar o bem de todos.

[Omega State]

BPE 2018 INTERVIEW

JB= JAIR BOLSONARO
Claudia Wild: Deputy Bolsonaro, what message would you like to leave to the international community?

Jair Bolsonaro: The business card I present for the international community is my comings to South Korea, Japan, Israel and the United States. I have demonstrated with which countries, with which country profile, we primarily want to re-establish our links. And I also want to dispel that shadow of mistrust regarding Brazil: it is our tradition to elect corrupt and enemies of the United States. I have shown, very much, that our tone will not be this. We will be really friends of countries like these that I have quoted. I have said that my first trip, if elected, will be for Israel. The second, to the United States. We have some interlocutors with the US government. In arriving (to the presidency), we intend to approach, to look for the bilateralism.

CW: Political scientist Walid Phares informed on his Twitter that Iran would be interfering in the Brazilian elections with the help of Syria and Lebanon. Is the Lord aware of this fact?

JB: Yes, we are aware and we have already passed on to the responsible authorities. There is much geopolitical interest involved in the Brazilian elections.

CW: The national and international press has referred to you with unpleasant adjectives. Something to say?

JB: Most of the international journalists receive press releases from the national press and react to them. These labels, these labels ... Look, they call me a racist. My daughter is the granddaughter of "Paulo Negão", who has black and northeastern blood. This business of machismo, now, was a phrase I uttered to a Member in the heat of an argument. People, before forming an opinion, had to see what I said, not what they say I said. About gays, I stood up against the gay kit in schools for kids in their six year age group.

CW: They also talk about fascism. Lula stated in an interview with Playboy Magazine in 1979 that he admired Hitler and Mao Tse Tung. (By the way, he never did.) Do you have any statesman references?

JB: Margaret Thatcher


CW: Regarding recently approved immigration law - and very controversial - what is your opinion?

JB: The state of Roraima has received many refugees from Venezuela. These poor refugees are suffering people. They run from a horrible regime. But the Brazilian state has a duty to control who enters and leaves the country. It's a security issue. Let's review this law there ...



CW: With regard to the numerous new embassies created in the PT era, there are many criticisms about the selection criteria of the countries chosen. What is your opinion on this?

JB: You see, that was a criterion ... a problem criterion. The PT left opening embassies in countries without the least commercial or strategic relevance for Brazil. The PT idea was to please these countries to get votes for a vacancy in the UN Security Council. We do not have an atom bomb and I do not see this need to be on the Security Council. These embassies generate a lot of expenses. We'll put a fine comb on that.
(Bolsonaro pulls out the cell phone and shows us a video of a Haddad rally in which Guilherme Boulos on the far left prompts a mob of thousands to invade the candidate's residence. We were talking about the knife attack by a former PSOL militant, and the candidate was visibly moved and we suspended the interview for a few moments.)

CW: We are a country with a lot of poverty. What do you think of taxpayers spending money for the big press?

JB: Look, there's the announcements ... state and government announcements. There is also a disproportionality between the audience and readership and this distribution of funds. This has to be reviewed.

CW: Finally, since you're a few days into the second round, what message would you like to leave?

JB: I want to be the president of all Brazilians, an honest and with God at heart patriot, who will respect the family, the children in the classroom, who will respect the law, who will seek to promote trade with prosperous and democratic nations, without ideological bias. But that will get heavy with the issue of public safety. We must unite our people, white, black, Northeastern, southern, to seek the good of all.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Unless if he does a massive fuckup, he's due to win the election already. 45-50% of his voters are already consolidated, so he doesn't need much effort to convince another few millions and win it.

I think the biggest problem is his vice-president candidate. If I supported Bolsonaro, I would put the Dom Luiz de Orleans e Bragança as a vice-president.
His vice-president already said some shit and the image of Bolsonaro was a little stained.

Why would Bolsonaro have the heir to the defunct Brazilian throne as a vice-president...?

[Omega State]

I think the biggest problem is his vice-president candidate. If I supported Bolsonaro, I would put the Dom Luiz de Orleans e Bragança as a vice-president.
His vice-president already said some shit and the image of Bolsonaro was a little stained.

Why would Bolsonaro have the heir to the defunct Brazilian throne as a vice-president...?

And why would a general be in the position of vice president? This "defunct" speaks fluently Portuguese, French and German and comprises Spanish, Italian and English and is graduated in Chemistry.So tell me now, why would a general be in the position of vice president?

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Why would Bolsonaro have the heir to the defunct Brazilian throne as a vice-president...?

And why would a general be in the position of vice president? This "defunct" speaks fluently Portuguese, French and German and comprises Spanish, Italian and English and is graduated in Chemistry.So tell me now, why would a general be in the position of vice president?

Again, it's not just some military figure, it's the CURRENT CLAIMANT TO THE BRAZILIAN THRONE.

Unless he plans on restoring Empire of Brazil 2: Pedro's Revenge, then it would seem to be an odd choice of vice-president.