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Who will be the president of Brazil?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:02 am

Fernando Haddad (Worker´s Party/Partido dos Trabalhadores) Left-Wing / Lulism
62
37%
Jair Bolsonaro (Social Liberal Party/Partido Social Liberal) Right-Wing/ Nationalist
84
50%
Blank/Null
21
13%
 
Total votes : 167

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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:47 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:Another thing I think is improbable is that Bolsonaro installs a military dictatorship. It would not make sense because he is captain and vice of his is general, that is, the general would be the "president." I hope he does not do it if elected.


Are you Brazilian?

Yeah.
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The NSDAP were not socialist, at all. They just put "socialist" in their name to attract more leftist voters. The NSDAP were fascist.

Exactly

And implicitly, Bolsonaro is doing the same thing in relation to attracting liberal voters.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:20 am

Omega State wrote:
True Alimeria wrote:Are you Brazilian?

Yeah.


Cool. I just want to ask you a question about what you Brazilians generally think of your police. I mean there were reports in 2014 that during the Football World Cup,
the Brazilian police literally CLEANSED an entire neighborhood and killed over 100 poor children in the process (that's how I remembered it), just to build newer buildings
to make the place attractive to non-Brazilian tourists so they wouldn't see these favelas and THESE CHILDREN.

Bolsonaro claims that the police has every right to use violence since they're "fighting criminals". But how do you Brazilians even trust your police when they, along with the government,
apparently have more respect to Westerners than your people and have no problem killing your own people which is making them look not any less evil from criminals, right? I mean are you Brazilians
even angry at them?

I know that was when the Socialist government was in charge, but clearly, Bolsonaro sees no problem with the police and always says that only they do justice (because they work for the government).
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:23 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:Yeah.


Cool. I just want to ask you a question about what you Brazilians generally think of your police. I mean there were reports in 2014 that during the Football World Cup,
the Brazilian police literally CLEANSED an entire neighborhood and killed over 100 poor children in the process (that's how I remembered it), just to build newer buildings
to make the place attractive to non-Brazilian tourists so they wouldn't see these favelas and THESE CHILDREN.

Bolsonaro claims that the police has every right to use violence since they're "fighting criminals". But how do you Brazilians even trust your police when they, along with the government,
apparently care more about Westerners than your people and kill your own people which makes them not any less evil from criminals, right? I mean are you Brazilians even angry at them?

I know that was when the Socialist government was in charge, but clearly, Bolsonaro sees no problem with the police and always says that only they do justice (because they work for the government).


Well, there's a part of the population here that's really angry with the police, and I'm one of those "parts" The police here sometimes kill an innocent person for no reason. What we need is a reform of the public security issue. For example, investing in weapons yes, but also in intelligence. Haddad has this proposal, but this will not solve the problem of crime in general, but organized crime.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:25 am

Omega State wrote:
Well, there's a part of the population here that's really angry with the police, and I'm one of those "parts" The police here sometimes kill an innocent person for no reason. What we need is a reform of the public security issue.


Doesn't killing your own people for the sake of tourism take it to a whole new level?
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:27 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:
Well, there's a part of the population here that's really angry with the police, and I'm one of those "parts" The police here sometimes kill an innocent person for no reason. What we need is a reform of the public security issue.


Doesn't killing your own people for the sake of tourism take it to a whole new level?


I would call this insanity level.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:32 am

Omega State wrote:
True Alimeria wrote:Doesn't killing your own people for the sake of tourism take it to a whole new level?


I would call this insanity level.


Yeah I'm really really sorry to hear that, also what happened to the National Museum in Rio. Brazil is a really beautiful country.
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:35 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:
I would call this insanity level.


Yeah I'm really really sorry to hear that, also what happened to the National Museum in Rio. Brazil is a really beautiful country.

It is, but corrupted by bastards politicians.
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Postby Dahon » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:42 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:Yeah.


Cool. I just want to ask you a question about what you Brazilians generally think of your police. I mean there were reports in 2014 that during the Football World Cup,
the Brazilian police literally CLEANSED an entire neighborhood and killed over 100 poor children in the process (that's how I remembered it), just to build newer buildings
to make the place attractive to non-Brazilian tourists so they wouldn't see these favelas and THESE CHILDREN.

Bolsonaro claims that the police has every right to use violence since they're "fighting criminals". But how do you Brazilians even trust your police when they, along with the government,
apparently have more respect to Westerners than your people and have no problem killing your own people which is making them look not any less evil from criminals, right? I mean are you Brazilians
even angry at them?

I know that was when the Socialist government was in charge, but clearly, Bolsonaro sees no problem with the police and always says that only they do justice (because they work for the government).


What? What?!! That was a thing? That happened???

By the good Lord -- if you can shrug off the deaths of a hundred kids for the sake of the World Cup, then a few hundred, a few thousand, a few above even that, for the sake of a free market would be in the cards, wouldn't it?

This is a frightful blood-drenched altar you thus build, Brazilians. All this for prosperity? Really?
Authoritarianism kills all. Never forget that.

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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:43 am

Dahon wrote:
True Alimeria wrote:
Cool. I just want to ask you a question about what you Brazilians generally think of your police. I mean there were reports in 2014 that during the Football World Cup,
the Brazilian police literally CLEANSED an entire neighborhood and killed over 100 poor children in the process (that's how I remembered it), just to build newer buildings
to make the place attractive to non-Brazilian tourists so they wouldn't see these favelas and THESE CHILDREN.

Bolsonaro claims that the police has every right to use violence since they're "fighting criminals". But how do you Brazilians even trust your police when they, along with the government,
apparently have more respect to Westerners than your people and have no problem killing your own people which is making them look not any less evil from criminals, right? I mean are you Brazilians
even angry at them?

I know that was when the Socialist government was in charge, but clearly, Bolsonaro sees no problem with the police and always says that only they do justice (because they work for the government).


What? What?!! That was a thing? That happened???

By the good Lord -- if you can shrug off the deaths of a hundred kids for the sake of the World Cup, then a few hundred, a few thousand, a few above even that, for the sake of a free market would be in the cards, wouldn't it?

This is a frightful blood-drenched altar you thus build, Brazilians. All this for prosperity? Really?

Yes. sadly.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:46 am

Dahon wrote:
What? What?!! That was a thing? That happened???

By the good Lord -- if you can shrug off the deaths of a hundred kids for the sake of the World Cup, then a few hundred, a few thousand, a few above even that, for the sake of a free market would be in the cards, wouldn't it?

This is a frightful blood-drenched altar you thus build, Brazilians. All this for prosperity? Really?


I saw that in an official documentary from a legit news agency/NGO. Can't remember which exactly, but trust me, it was all real stuff covered.
I can't believe prostituting your country for the sake of Western consumerism is a real thing.
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:46 am

Omega State wrote:
Dahon wrote:
What? What?!! That was a thing? That happened???

By the good Lord -- if you can shrug off the deaths of a hundred kids for the sake of the World Cup, then a few hundred, a few thousand, a few above even that, for the sake of a free market would be in the cards, wouldn't it?

This is a frightful blood-drenched altar you thus build, Brazilians. All this for prosperity? Really?

Yes. sadly.


Detail: this was in the Dilma government, from Haddad's party.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:47 am

Omega State wrote:It is, but corrupted by bastards politicians.


It's like there's a rule of thumb: The more beautiful a country is, the shittier and more evil its government is. (and vice versa ;) )

Detail: this was in the Dilma government, from Haddad's party.


I don't think Bolsonaro would care. He loves the police and is pro-business.
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:49 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:It is, but corrupted by bastards politicians.


It's like there's a rule of thumb: The more beautiful a country is, the shittier and more evil its government is. (and vice versa ;) )

Yes. Venezuela, Haiti are beautiful countries, but look at their state now.
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Postby Dahon » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:50 am

No. Nonononononononononono. A thousand times, a million, a billion times no. That train of thought is inhumane. Simply inhumane. And you can stop yourself, yourselves from hitching a ride. It is within your power. Do not do this. Do not kill your own people for a fistful of reals. Do not do this to yourselves. Do not. Do not.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:51 am

Omega State wrote:
True Alimeria wrote:It's like there's a rule of thumb: The more beautiful a country is, the shittier and more evil its government is. (and vice versa ;) )

Yes. Venezuela, Haiti are beautiful countries, but look at their state now.


The Balkans also. Just saying ^^
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:53 am

Dahon wrote:No. Nonononononononononono. A thousand times, a million, a billion times no. That train of thought is inhumane. Simply inhumane. And you can stop yourself, yourselves from hitching a ride. It is within your power. Do not do this. Do not kill your own people for a fistful of reals. Do not do this to yourselves. Do not. Do not.


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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:53 am

Dahon wrote:No. Nonononononononononono. A thousand times, a million, a billion times no. That train of thought is inhumane. Simply inhumane. And you can stop yourself, yourselves from hitching a ride. It is within your power. Do not do this. Do not kill your own people for a fistful of reals. Do not do this to yourselves. Do not. Do not.


This is Brazil, my friend.
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Postby Dahon » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:55 am

Omega State wrote:
True Alimeria wrote:
It's like there's a rule of thumb: The more beautiful a country is, the shittier and more evil its government is. (and vice versa ;) )

Yes. Venezuela, Haiti are beautiful countries, but look at their state now.


A function of authoritarians freeing themselves to kill and enslave and oppress the people they see and walking corpses. Do not do that to themselves. Reject Bolsonaro. Reject him. Please.
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:57 am

Dahon wrote:
Omega State wrote:Yes. Venezuela, Haiti are beautiful countries, but look at their state now.


A function of authoritarians freeing themselves to kill and enslave and oppress the people they see and walking corpses. Do not do that to themselves. Reject Bolsonaro. Reject him. Please.


M8, to be honest with you, we are between the scythe (communism) and the hammer (ultranationalism). Do you think a person, libertarian the way I am, would vote for one of those two? of course not.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:00 am

Omega State wrote:
M8, to be honest with you, we are between the scythe (communism) and the hammer (ultranationalism). Do you think a person, libertarian the way I am, would vote for one of those two? of course not.


But why would a Communist government kill its people for the sake of Western tourism? This isn't a real issue about communism, so better vote Bolsonaro out.
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Also, see my OOC factbook. You will see why I will vote blank.
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:02 am

True Alimeria wrote:
Omega State wrote:
M8, to be honest with you, we are between the scythe (communism) and the hammer (ultranationalism). Do you think a person, libertarian the way I am, would vote for one of those two? of course not.


But why would a Communist government kill its people for the sake of Western tourism? This isn't a real issue about communism, so better vote Bolsonaro out.

I would vote in bolsonaro on account of pro-market proposals, but he is conservative in personal freedoms, so.. Nope.
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GERMANY/STATE ELECTIONS
Voting begins for Bavarian state parliament in Munich
A votação começa para o parlamento do estado da Baviera em Munique
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Postby True Alimeria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:29 am

Omega State wrote:I would vote in bolsonaro on account of pro-market proposals, but he is conservative in personal freedoms, so.. Nope.


Listen, I mean no disrespect, just my honesty. I just think that you should NEVER think in these terms about politics at all.
Politics are always about useless IDEALS and "za ideale ginu budale" (only idiots die for ideas). Real life issues aren't really addressed
So why does this pro-/anti market/property/values/freedom stuff even matter to you?
The reality is that your OWN government is KILLING your people, for unbelievable reasons. Not only the World Cup 2014,
but also Rio Olympics etc. right?
And srsly I can't believe how such sh't can happen! It's really unbelievable to me!

And Bolsonaro will probably make it even ten times worse for everyone!
Since he's all about consumerism and pro-Western corporate stuff.
Only justice matters, economics, freedom or other ideals really don't.
You can never trust your government, especially in Brazil.
What does anything about a politician's ""values"" matter when the person is evil?!
Voting for a candidate doesn't make you someone who supports his political views when you aren't even thinking in these
terms to begin with. When you understand it's all about power.
The current government is corrupt, that's true, but it's not about "ideals" or "convictions", but about another guy cracking down
on people wanting to live honourable lives.
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