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Who will be the president of Brazil?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:02 am

Fernando Haddad (Worker´s Party/Partido dos Trabalhadores) Left-Wing / Lulism
62
37%
Jair Bolsonaro (Social Liberal Party/Partido Social Liberal) Right-Wing/ Nationalist
84
50%
Blank/Null
21
13%
 
Total votes : 167

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:58 pm

Omega State wrote:With the recent updates, there will be a second round between Bolsonaro and Haddad.
Com as recentes atualizações, haverá um segundo turno entre Bolsonaro e Haddad.

There is hope for Brazil. I pray they do not make this man president

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Postby Collatis » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:59 pm

In the event of a second round, will any of the major candidates endorse Bolsonaro? It’s hard to imagine right-wing candidates like Alckmin endorsing a candidate of the PT.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:59 pm

Collatis wrote:In the event of a second round, will any of the major candidates endorse Bolsonaro? It’s hard to imagine right-wing candidates like Alckmin endorsing a candidate of the PT.

I hope not. He must be stopped

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:00 pm

Liriena wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You have proof this claim?

It's as easy as reading his wiki article.

People who make claims need to show proof of said claims
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:00 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

People who make claims need to show proof of said claims

Is Time Magazine not a good enough source for you?

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Postby Eibenland » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:01 pm

Collatis wrote:In the event of a second round, will any of the major candidates endorse Bolsonaro? It’s hard to imagine right-wing candidates like Alckmin endorsing a candidate of the PT.

I don't know but Alckmin wouldn't endorse Bolsonaro either.
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Postby Collatis » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Collatis wrote:In the event of a second round, will any of the major candidates endorse Bolsonaro? It’s hard to imagine right-wing candidates like Alckmin endorsing a candidate of the PT.

I hope not. He must be stopped

I don’t expect them too, but, then again, I also didn’t expect so many of the losing candidates to back Duque in Colombia earlier this year.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:03 pm

Collatis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I hope not. He must be stopped

I don’t expect them too, but, then again, I also didn’t expect so many of the losing candidates to back Duque in Colombia earlier this year.

Dugue is not like this monster who has called for the beating of gay people and called sexual assault victims liars, that they were asking for it.
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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:04 pm

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS OF BRAZIL
Urnas apuradas:88%
Polls cleared:88%

1.Jair Bolsonaro
PSL
47,35%
2.Fernando Haddad
PT
27,55%
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I see that as not only a fantastic thing - but one entirely necessary for our survival as a species.

Though we shouldn't thread jack. I'm open to TM if you at all care.


why is the end of democracy a good thing?

Because democracy just leads to a popularity contest
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
why is the end of democracy a good thing?

Because democracy just leads to a popularity contest


Yeah those people in North Korea have it so good. The military junta in Myanmar was truly wonderful.

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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
why is the end of democracy a good thing?

Because democracy just leads to a popularity contest

And the hyperpartisan left-right doesn't help much.
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah those people in North Korea have it so good. The military junta in Myanmar was truly wonderful.

Said no one ever.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m not saying that’s hes not crazy I’m asking for proof. I don’t take statements from NSG posters who are known to go overboard with emotion.

You were just given proof

Image context is a thing ya know
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:12 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because democracy just leads to a popularity contest

And the hyperpartisan left-right doesn't help much.
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah those people in North Korea have it so good. The military junta in Myanmar was truly wonderful.

Said no one ever.

did you read the article i gave you a link too?

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:People who make claims need to show proof of said claims

Is Time Magazine not a good enough source for you?

I never said that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because democracy just leads to a popularity contest


Yeah those people in North Korea have it so good. The military junta in Myanmar was truly wonderful.

I’m practically a tankie. You’re are doing a shit job of convincing me that democracy isn’t shit
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Postby KapKav » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:In the grand scheme of things, he is just a mere regional asshole.

He has said he doesnt care about deforestation in the Amazon that their are more important things than trees


Neither should you, the real breathing lung of the world is the ocean algae that generates most of the oxygen.

So maybe with some reading and less paranoia you could get to see how good Bolsonaro is for this nation.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah those people in North Korea have it so good. The military junta in Myanmar was truly wonderful.

I’m practically a tankie. You’re are doing a shit job of convincing me that democracy isn’t shit


Go ask someone from Eritrea, Belarus or Uzbekistan how wonderful dictatorship is

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:16 pm

KapKav wrote:
San Lumen wrote:He has said he doesnt care about deforestation in the Amazon that their are more important things than trees


Neither should you, the real breathing lung of the world is the ocean algae that generates most of the oxygen.

So maybe with some reading and less paranoia you could get to see how good Bolsonaro is for this nation.


The Amazon is very important too. Bolsonaro is a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot.

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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m practically a tankie. You’re are doing a shit job of convincing me that democracy isn’t shit


Go ask someone from Eritrea, Belarus or Uzbekistan how wonderful dictatorship is

No one asked.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
KapKav wrote:
Neither should you, the real breathing lung of the world is the ocean algae that generates most of the oxygen.

So maybe with some reading and less paranoia you could get to see how good Bolsonaro is for this nation.


The Amazon is very important too. Bolsonaro is a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot.

No matter how much you repeat that the less meaning it actually has.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
why is the end of democracy a good thing?

Because democracy just leads to a popularity contest


Seriously, why are you politically a carbon copy of me?

I also believe that democracy is doomed to an inevitable demise, since dictators, strongmen, and ambitious people will rise out of the system (and exploit it to its fullest) sooner or later.

If anything, democracy is but an interim system between other government types, a temporary thing if you ask me.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:18 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The Amazon is very important too. Bolsonaro is a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot.

No matter how much you repeat that the less meaning it actually has.


Thank for admitting you care nothing for the planet and have no issues with a monster like him

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Postby KapKav » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Arab State wrote:I would disagree with that.

Bolsonaro is a racist, xenophobic, homophobic sexist bigot


Another fresh batch of lies and slander against Bolsonaro good name, he is not a racist, in fact he is married to a black woman, with a black father in law, also xenophobic? what do you suggest? we let everyone in no checks, yeah sure that been working out great for europe!, homophobit sexist bigot? haha nice nonsense, not even going to bother to point out how much of a lie that is.

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Postby Omega State » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:19 pm

Some people say that Singapore is a benevolent dictatorship.
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