Theocracy Discussion Thread

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Every Prophet (SAWS/AS) ever.

How do you know?

Holy Qur'an.

[Kaggeceria]

Allah doesn't seem all that rational.

The human brain can only conceive so much.

And what makes Allah more rational?

Demanding humanity be enslaved to him just because really does not seem all that rational.

But you want to be a willing slave so I suppose you find little wrong with that.

[Kaggeceria]

How do you know?

Holy Qur'an.

Ah, so you know they spoke to God because the Quran that they wrote says so.

What wonderful circular logic.

This is why religion is silly.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The human brain can only conceive so much.

And what makes Allah more rational?

Demanding humanity be enslaved to him just because really does not seem all that rational.

But you want to be a willing slave so I suppose you find little wrong with that.

Correct.

[Hammer Britannia]

How do you know?

Holy Qur'an.

The hindus also consider the vedic texts holy and right

What separates the Vedic texts, a text "inspired" by Vishnu, from the "Holy" Qur'an?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Holy Qur'an.

Ah, so you know they spoke to God because the Quran that they wrote says so.

What wonderful circular logic.

This is why religion is silly.

You asked how I know, I answered.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Muh Quran is the Perfect word of Allah, amirite?

Correct. Except I wouldn't really call it "mine" per say.

"Muh" is just a way of mocking a buzz phrase. Don't read too much into it

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Holy Qur'an.

The hindus also consider the vedic texts holy and right

What separates the Vedic texts, a text "inspired" by Vishnu, from the "Holy" Qur'an?

Inspired =/= direct revelations for 1.

[Kaggeceria]

Ah, so you know they spoke to God because the Quran that they wrote says so.

What wonderful circular logic.

This is why religion is silly.

You asked how I know, I answered.

If I wrote in a book that I spoke to God would you believe me?

Because that's essentially what you're doing here.

You believe a book is true purely because the people who wrote it said it was true and then you demand we accommodate your shitty laws in said book.

No thanks.

[Kaggeceria]

And what makes Allah more rational?

Demanding humanity be enslaved to him just because really does not seem all that rational.

But you want to be a willing slave so I suppose you find little wrong with that.

Correct.

That's really quite sad.

[Hammer Britannia]

The hindus also consider the vedic texts holy and right

What separates the Vedic texts, a text "inspired" by Vishnu, from the "Holy" Qur'an?

Inspired =/= direct revelations for 1.

Direct Revelations? You mean the translations of an illiterate who claims to have spoken with God with no real evidence outside "because it happened, trust me"?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You asked how I know, I answered.

If I wrote in a book that I spoke to God would you believe me?

Can you prove it?

Because that's essentially what you're doing here.

You didn't ask me to prove anything, you asked me how I know.

You believe a book is true purely because the people who wrote it said it was true and then you demand we accommodate your laws in said book.

Yes, but they aren't my laws.

[Greater Cesnica]

I have no problem with personal religious beliefs. When you try to impose those beliefs on others, when you go into the scheme of organized religion, I don't support that.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Inspired =/= direct revelations for 1.

Direct Revelations? You mean the translations of an illiterate who claims to have spoken with God with no real evidence outside "because it happened, trust me"?

Not translations. He spoke Arabic. Also, there is stuff about proving prophethood.

[Kowani]

If I wrote in a book that I spoke to God would you believe me?

Can you prove it?

Because that's essentially what you're doing here.

You didn't ask me to prove anything, you asked me how I know.

You believe a book is true purely because the people who wrote it said it was true and then you demand we accommodate your laws in said book.

Yes, but they aren't my laws.

You ask him to prove it, yet Muhammad has no requirements for proof...

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Correct.

That's really quite sad.

For someone upon kufr, yes.

[Greater Cesnica]

Direct Revelations? You mean the translations of an illiterate who claims to have spoken with God with no real evidence outside "because it happened, trust me"?

Not translations. He spoke Arabic. Also, there is stuff about proving prophethood.

How do you know Christianity and, by extension, Judaism is false?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Can you prove it?

You didn't ask me to prove anything, you asked me how I know.

Yes, but they aren't my laws.

You ask him to prove it, yet Muhammad has no requirements for proof...

Show me where I said that. Also, Prophet Muhammad SAWS wouldn't have such a large following if he didn't prove himself.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Direct Revelations? You mean the translations of an illiterate who claims to have spoken with God with no real evidence outside "because it happened, trust me"?

Not translations. He spoke Arabic. Also, there is stuff about proving prophethood.

Arabic =/= literate

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The rest of my posts about Al-Islam and not theocracy will be in the IDT3

[Greater Cesnica]

You ask him to prove it, yet Muhammad has no requirements for proof...

Show me where I said that. Also, Prophet Muhammad SAWS wouldn't have such a large following if he didn't prove himself.

Jesus Christ has a larger following.

[Saranidia]

Show me where I said that. Also, Prophet Muhammad SAWS wouldn't have such a large following if he didn't prove himself.

Jesus Christ has a larger following.

Muslims acknowledge Jesus, his virgin birth, his revelations from God and his many miracles.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The rest of my posts about Al-Islam and not theocracy will be in the IDT3

Insha-Allah

[Saranidia]

The hindus also consider the vedic texts holy and right

What separates the Vedic texts, a text "inspired" by Vishnu, from the "Holy" Qur'an?

Inspired =/= direct revelations for 1.

excellent my brother

[The Archregimancy]

Jesus Christ has a larger following.

Muslims acknowledge Jesus, his virgin birth, his revelations from God and his many miracles.

But not His crucifixion, His resurrection, or His divinity within the Holy Trinity.

Which would strike Muslims and Christians alike as a fairly core distinction.