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Postby Saranidia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:35 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Saranidia wrote:I know were the religion of peace.

I low-key don't like this phrase. Yes it's true, But that's all of what Al-Islam is. It also gives the wrong idea and is inaccurate, considering the ayat and aHadith about fighting.




i said religion of peace not religion of pacifism, a roughly similar idea is that some soldiers are called peacekeepers.

also it would be better to overemphasise peace than overemphasise war as there is a hadith that calling ones child Harb(war) is discouraged and there is a quran verse "and when the ignorant adress them they say peace"
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:39 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I low-key don't like this phrase. Yes it's true, But that's all of what Al-Islam is. It also gives the wrong idea and is inaccurate, considering the ayat and aHadith about fighting.




i said religion of peace not religion of pacifism, a roughly similar idea is that some soldiers are called peacekeepers.

also it would be better to overemphasise peace than overemphasise war as there is a hadith that calling ones child Harb(war) is discouraged and there is a quran verse "and when the ignorant adress them they say peace"

Neither one of those has anything to do with the topic. And soldiers aren't called peacekeepers, those are 2 different professions.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:56 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Saranidia wrote:


i said religion of peace not religion of pacifism, a roughly similar idea is that some soldiers are called peacekeepers.

also it would be better to overemphasise peace than overemphasise war as there is a hadith that calling ones child Harb(war) is discouraged and there is a quran verse "and when the ignorant adress them they say peace"

Neither one of those has anything to do with the topic. And soldiers aren't called peacekeepers, those are 2 different professions.


*coughs*

UN peacekeepers

*coughs*
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:01 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Neither one of those has anything to do with the topic. And soldiers aren't called peacekeepers, those are 2 different professions.


*coughs*

UN peacekeepers

*coughs*

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:08 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Neither one of those has anything to do with the topic. And soldiers aren't called peacekeepers, those are 2 different professions.


*coughs*

UN peacekeepers

*coughs*

Eh, point made I guess.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:13 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:
*coughs*

UN peacekeepers

*coughs*

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I can second this. Lord Zykron the Third is the Supreme Overlord of the Universe, he directs the UN to conquer us measly Earthlings.
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Postby Saranidia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:27 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Saranidia wrote:


i said religion of peace not religion of pacifism, a roughly similar idea is that some soldiers are called peacekeepers.

also it would be better to overemphasise peace than overemphasise war as there is a hadith that calling ones child Harb(war) is discouraged and there is a quran verse "and when the ignorant adress them they say peace"


Neither one of those has anything to do with the topic. And soldiers aren't called peacekeepers, those are 2 different professions.

It came up in conversation that was originally about theocracy in the Vatican City State.

Also UN peacekeepers are appointed from the armed forces of their nations and sometimes use lethal force against those guilty of hirabah or believed to be.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:29 pm

Saranidia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Neither one of those has anything to do with the topic. And soldiers aren't called peacekeepers, those are 2 different professions.

It came up in conversation that was originally about theocracy in the Vatican City State.

Also UN peacekeepers are appointed from the armed forces of their nations and sometimes use lethal force against those guilty of hirabah or believed to be.

>Implying that non-Muslims can enforce Shari'ah
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:37 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Saranidia wrote:It came up in conversation that was originally about theocracy in the Vatican City State.

Also UN peacekeepers are appointed from the armed forces of their nations and sometimes use lethal force against those guilty of hirabah or believed to be.

>Implying that non-Muslims can enforce Shari'ah

>implying that Sharia should be enforced at all
Sharia should be completely disregarded. Religious laws are always terrible.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:39 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>Implying that non-Muslims can enforce Shari'ah

>implying that Sharia should be enforced at all
Sharia should be completely disregarded. Religious laws are always terrible.

Says who?
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:41 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:>implying that Sharia should be enforced at all
Sharia should be completely disregarded. Religious laws are always terrible.

Says who?

Well, Allah can't say anything since he doesn't speak to anybody.

And there's no evidence Allah even exists so I don't see why people should be forced to follow his rules.

So yes, disregard Sharia.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:41 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:>implying that Sharia should be enforced at all
Sharia should be completely disregarded. Religious laws are always terrible.

Says who?

Says a liberal on the internet who doesn't want to make any constructive statements, apparently.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:41 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:>implying that Sharia should be enforced at all
Sharia should be completely disregarded. Religious laws are always terrible.

Says who?

Rational people, that’s who.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:43 pm

Kowani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Says who?

Rational people, that’s who.

Don't. He's just going to respond with "Ah, not Allah. So your opinion doesn't matter lmao" as if Allah actually speaks to anyone.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:44 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Rational people, that’s who.

Don't. He's just going to respond with "Ah, not Allah. So your opinion doesn't matter lmao" as if Allah actually speaks to anyone.

Doesn't have to anymore. At least, not in a revelation-type way.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:45 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Don't. He's just going to respond with "Ah, not Allah. So your opinion doesn't matter lmao" as if Allah actually speaks to anyone.

Doesn't have to anymore. At least, not in a revelation-type way.

Muh Quran is the Perfect word of Allah, amirite?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:45 pm

Kowani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Says who?

Rational people, that’s who.

So, not a rational God, whose rationality far exceeds human rationality.

Ok.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:45 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Don't. He's just going to respond with "Ah, not Allah. So your opinion doesn't matter lmao" as if Allah actually speaks to anyone.

Doesn't have to anymore. At least, not in a revelation-type way.

When did he ever speak to anyone to begin with?

The Quran was written by men.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:46 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Doesn't have to anymore. At least, not in a revelation-type way.

Muh Quran is the Perfect word of Allah, amirite?

Correct. Except I wouldn't really call it "mine" per say.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:46 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kowani wrote:Rational people, that’s who.

So, not a rational God, whose rationality far exceeds human rationality.

Ok.

Allah doesn't seem all that rational.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:46 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Doesn't have to anymore. At least, not in a revelation-type way.

When did he ever speak to anyone to begin with?

Every Prophet (SAWS/AS) ever.
Kaggeceria wrote:The Quran was written by men.

I know.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:47 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So, not a rational God, whose rationality far exceeds human rationality.

Ok.

Allah doesn't seem all that rational.

The human brain can only conceive so much.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Allah doesn't seem all that rational.

The human brain can only conceive so much.

So much bullshit you mean
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:48 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:The human brain can only conceive so much.

So much bull you mean

True, considering all the crap we've been doing since our existence.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:48 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:When did he ever speak to anyone to begin with?

Every Prophet (SAWS/AS) ever.

How do you know?
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