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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:03 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Imaan is better.

Yeah, Imaan in Syria and Yemen seems to be working out just great.

It actually is.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:04 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Imaan is better.

I dunno, tbh. I'm much happier since I left Islam. I feel like my life is pretty good.

Same here. I used to be an Ahmadiyyat Muslim.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:04 pm

Rectification Government wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

Well, the Quran is a HOLEY book. :rofl:

ha, wow, such funny
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:05 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Yeah, Imaan in Syria and Yemen seems to be working out just great.

It actually is.

Sure.
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Postby Rectification Government » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:05 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Rectification Government wrote:Well, the Quran is a HOLEY book. :rofl:

No it's not. It's a Holy Book. And disrespecting people's faith ain't right. Insha-Allah I will respond to the claims in that link in the Islamic Discussion Thread.

Sorry. But still, there are contradictions in the Quran. Feel free to telegram me proof that the book is still consistent or link your post in the IDT.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:06 pm

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Geneviev wrote:You should already be able to guess. Yes, I think there's something wrong with being gay. Or, for the sake of fairness, trans too.


I would've understood if you merely said that homosexuality/transsexuality was more environmental than genetic, or that it's an uncommon trait..,

But going as far as calling it "wrong"?

That's what it is, though.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:07 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
I would've understood if you merely said that homosexuality/transsexuality was more environmental than genetic, or that it's an uncommon trait..,

But going as far as calling it "wrong"?

That's what it is, though.

Do they deserve punishment? Did the people in Orlando deserve to be gunned down?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:07 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

It's the best way, yes. But getting to Heaven? The least you need is tawheed (belief in 1 God) and an atom's weight of good deeds. The most is the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

Besides, Cesnica asked why humans should be enacting the Law of Allah SWT, I answered.

So because I believe in Odin and Thor, I'm fucked?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:08 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:It's the best way, yes. But getting to Heaven? The least you need is tawheed (belief in 1 God) and an atom's weight of good deeds. The most is the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

Besides, Cesnica asked why humans should be enacting the Law of Allah SWT, I answered.

So because I believe in Odin and Thor, I'm fucked?

Do you do good shit?
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:09 pm

Rectification Government wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No it's not. It's a Holy Book. And disrespecting people's faith ain't right. Insha-Allah I will respond to the claims in that link in the Islamic Discussion Thread.

Sorry. But still, there are contradictions in the Quran. Feel free to telegram me proof that the book is still consistent or link your post in the IDT.

There are errors in the bible as well.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:10 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:So because I believe in Odin and Thor, I'm fucked?

Do you do good shit?

...

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Postby Geneviev » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:11 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's what it is, though.

Do they deserve punishment? Did the people in Orlando deserve to be gunned down?

No one deserves to be murdered. But people should be treated for it.
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Postby Rectification Government » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:12 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Rectification Government wrote:Sorry. But still, there are contradictions in the Quran. Feel free to telegram me proof that the book is still consistent or link your post in the IDT.

There are errors in the bible as well.

The first claim I want to disprove is that the Bible claims that the Earth is 6000 years old, and that evolution is incompatible with Christianity. The truth is that the Bible never states the Earth's age, and evolution is compatible with Christianity. There is an entire theological movement centered on acceptance of evolution and the concept of the Old Earth.
If that was not your claim, please go on.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:12 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Do they deserve punishment? Did the people in Orlando deserve to be gunned down?

No one deserves to be murdered. But people should be treated for it.

Ah so you're one of those lovely people who support conversion therapy..

Yeah no that's fucked. There are LGBT people in the world who are perfectly normal asides from their sexual desires.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:13 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Do you do good shit?

...

Debatable

Atom's weight. Then... 50/50 chance...?

I don't buy that personally. Ted Bundy worked as a suicide hotline volunteer. Also raped and murdered 100+ women. He did not go to Heaven, if there is one.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Do they deserve punishment? Did the people in Orlando deserve to be gunned down?

No one deserves to be murdered. But people should be treated for it.

Ya fuck that. If you want to be tortured go ahead. But I’m not going to go to some goddamn “conversion camp”. My people don’t do well in camps
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geneviev wrote:No one deserves to be murdered. But people should be treated for it.

Ah so you're one of those lovely people who support conversion therapy..

Yeah no that's fucked. There are LGBT people in the world who are perfectly normal asides from their sexual desires.

And that doesn't take away the sexual desires.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Ah so you're one of those lovely people who support conversion therapy..

Yeah no that's fucked. There are LGBT people in the world who are perfectly normal asides from their sexual desires.

And that doesn't take away the sexual desires.

How should LGBT people be 'treated'?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:18 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geneviev wrote:And that doesn't take away the sexual desires.

How should LGBT people be 'treated'?

Like everyone else. IE left alone
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:19 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:How should LGBT people be 'treated'?

Like everyone else. IE left alone

You don't think I agree with that?

Sorry if I came across as hostile. In an IRL argument with someone.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:19 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geneviev wrote:And that doesn't take away the sexual desires.

How should LGBT people be 'treated'?

Conversion therapy should work usually.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:20 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:How should LGBT people be 'treated'?

Conversion therapy should work usually.

therapy = electric shocks and other aversion tactics akin to torture
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:20 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:How should LGBT people be 'treated'?

Conversion therapy should work usually.

Oh ffs. It's their bodies. It's their bedroom. Why the fuck should anyone care what happens there unless it's rape or some pedo shit?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:20 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Conversion therapy should work usually.

therapy = electric shocks and other aversion tactics akin to torture

And Mike Pence supports that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:20 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Like everyone else. IE left alone

You don't think I agree with that?

Sorry if I came across as hostile. In an IRL argument with someone.

No I know you agree with it. I’m just making a statement.
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