Theocracy Discussion Thread

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ok but is it a crime? To have certain sexual inclinations that you can't control? Because, to me, that sounds psychotic.

Throughout mot of Christianity's history? Yes, it is a crime.

Never mind that the NT barely mentions anything relating to LGBT behavior/desires, or that people still treat it as wrong and immoral even though Jesus died to repent for that considered "Wrong" behavior/desire.

That's not quite how Jesus' sacrifice works in the theology.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Every Prophet (SAWS/AS) was going by a direct theocracy technically. But what's wrong with an indirect theocracy?

Because why should us mortal humans dictate the Rule of God on others?

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

[Rectification Government]

Throughout mot of Christianity's history? Yes, it is a crime.

Never mind that the NT barely mentions anything relating to LGBT behavior/desires, or that people still treat it as wrong and immoral even though Jesus died to repent for that considered "Wrong" behavior/desire.

Yeah, that's what I don't get. If Christianity makes a call to its followers to be loyal to Jesus and to adopt his ideals, shouldn't they be forgiving, and not judge others?

They should, but the fact is that the LGBT lifestyle is harmful to its practitioners. Why else do you think transgenders, the T in LGBT, are the most suicidal demographic in the U.S.? Embrace of an LGBT lifestyle is used by many as a diversion from their true internal problems. This is why Christians should be openly against LGBT activity and lifestyles.

That being said we must not meet the victims, the practitioners themselves, of those lifestyles with hatred. We need to find a balance between embrace of the LGBT lifestyle and hatred of all people who follow it.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

So, there's something wrong with being gay?

You should already be able to guess. Yes, I think there's something wrong with being gay. Or, for the sake of fairness, trans too.

I will pray for you. I am so sorry.

[New haven america]

Throughout mot of Christianity's history? Yes, it is a crime.

Never mind that the NT barely mentions anything relating to LGBT behavior/desires, or that people still treat it as wrong and immoral even though Jesus died to repent for that considered "Wrong" behavior/desire.

Yeah, that's what I don't get. If Christianity makes a call to its followers to be loyal to Jesus and to adopt his ideals, shouldn't they be forgiving, and not judge others?

No no, you see, they're not judging others, they're simply judging the sin they partake in.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Yeah, that's what I don't get. If Christianity makes a call to its followers to be loyal to Jesus and to adopt his ideals, shouldn't they be forgiving, and not judge others?

They should, but the fact is that the LGBT lifestyle is harmful to its practitioners. Why else do you think transgenders, the T in LGBT, are the most suicidal demographic in the U.S.? Embrace of an LGBT lifestyle is used by many as a diversion from their true internal problems. This is why Christians should be openly against LGBT activity and lifestyles.

That being said we must not meet the victims, the practitioners themselves, of those lifestyles with hatred. We need to find a balance between embrace of the LGBT lifestyle and hatred of all people who follow it.

"Hate the sin, not the sinner"

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Yeah, that's what I don't get. If Christianity makes a call to its followers to be loyal to Jesus and to adopt his ideals, shouldn't they be forgiving, and not judge others?

They should, but the fact is that the LGBT lifestyle is harmful to its practitioners. Why else do you think transgenders, the T in LGBT, are the most suicidal demographic in the U.S.?

Maybe because they often have to deal with people saying shit like this.

[The South Falls]

Yeah, that's what I don't get. If Christianity makes a call to its followers to be loyal to Jesus and to adopt his ideals, shouldn't they be forgiving, and not judge others?

They should, but the fact is that the LGBT lifestyle is harmful to its practitioners. Why else do you think transgenders, the T in LGBT, are the most suicidal demographic in the U.S.? Embrace of an LGBT lifestyle is used by many as a diversion from their true internal problems. This is why Christians should be openly against LGBT activity and lifestyles.

That being said we must not meet the victims, the practitioners themselves, of those lifestyles with hatred. We need to find a balance between embrace of the LGBT lifestyle and hatred of all people who follow it.

I think that's entirely wrong. The reason why these people commit suicide is a lack of acceptance and sometimes physical attack.

[Rectification Government]

Because why should us mortal humans dictate the Rule of God on others?

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

Rebuttal

[Kubumba Tribe]

Any other theocrats here? I know Talons has said some things favoring a theocracy

[Greater Cesnica]

Yeah, that's what I don't get. If Christianity makes a call to its followers to be loyal to Jesus and to adopt his ideals, shouldn't they be forgiving, and not judge others?

They should, but the fact is that the LGBT lifestyle is harmful to its practitioners. Why else do you think transgenders, the T in LGBT, are the most suicidal demographic in the U.S.? Embrace of an LGBT lifestyle is used by many as a diversion from their true internal problems. This is why Christians should be openly against LGBT activity and lifestyles.

That being said we must not meet the victims, the practitioners themselves, of those lifestyles with hatred. We need to find a balance between embrace of the LGBT lifestyle and hatred of all people who follow it.

Well, my partner is bisexual. She's pretty damn normal.

[Kubumba Tribe]

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

Rebuttal

Idk how that's a rebuttal.

[Greater Cesnica]

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

Rebuttal

*grabs dollar store popcorn*

[Rectification Government]

Any other theocrats here? I know Talons has said some things favoring a theocracy

The only times I advocate theocracy are in Mike Pence lightning and Deus Vult memes.

[Hammer Britannia]

Because why should us mortal humans dictate the Rule of God on others?

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

[The South Falls]

They should, but the fact is that the LGBT lifestyle is harmful to its practitioners. Why else do you think transgenders, the T in LGBT, are the most suicidal demographic in the U.S.? Embrace of an LGBT lifestyle is used by many as a diversion from their true internal problems. This is why Christians should be openly against LGBT activity and lifestyles.

That being said we must not meet the victims, the practitioners themselves, of those lifestyles with hatred. We need to find a balance between embrace of the LGBT lifestyle and hatred of all people who follow it.

Well, my partner is bisexual. She's pretty damn normal.

Two of my friends are lesbian. They're normal people.

[Kubumba Tribe]

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

It's the best way, yes. But getting to Heaven? The least you need is tawheed (belief in 1 God) and an atom's weight of good deeds. The most is the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

Besides, Cesnica asked why humans should be enacting the Law of Allah SWT, I answered.

[Greater Cesnica]

Well, my partner is bisexual. She's pretty damn normal.

Two of my friends are lesbian. They're normal people.

Yep. If you have a good moral base, if you have great friends and family, if you aren't shunned or discriminated against because of your orientation, you'll have a good life.

[The South Falls]

Two of my friends are lesbian. They're normal people.

Yep. If you have a good moral base, if you have great friends and family, if you aren't shunned or discriminated because of your orientation, you'll have a good life.

That's true for all people.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Two of my friends are lesbian. They're normal people.

Yep. If you have a good moral base, if you have great friends and family, if you aren't shunned or discriminated against because of your orientation, you'll have a good life.

Imaan is better.

[Greater Cesnica]

>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

It's the best way, yes. But getting to Heaven? The least you need is tawheed (belief in 1 God) and an atom's weight of good deeds. The most is the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

Besides, Cesnica asked why humans should be enacting the Law of Allah SWT, I answered.

I know I'm breaking my vow here... but then what happens to a non-repenting Muslim murderer/rapist?

[Rectification Government]

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

Well, the Quran is a HOLEY book.

[Greater Cesnica]

Yep. If you have a good moral base, if you have great friends and family, if you aren't shunned or discriminated against because of your orientation, you'll have a good life.

Imaan is better.

Yeah, Imaan in Syria and Yemen seems to be working out just great.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Yep. If you have a good moral base, if you have great friends and family, if you aren't shunned or discriminated against because of your orientation, you'll have a good life.

Imaan is better.

I dunno, tbh. I'm much happier since I left Islam. I feel like my life is pretty good.

[Kubumba Tribe]

>Implying Islam is and can be the only true religion

Well, the Quran is a HOLEY book.

No it's not. It's a Holy Book. And disrespecting people's faith ain't right. Insha-Allah I will respond to the claims in that link in the Islamic Discussion Thread.