Theocracy Discussion Thread

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Inb4 "Islam allows trans but not gay!"

This reminds me of that story about how Iran was forcing gay people to get gender reassignment surgery.

Yarp. It's why Iran has the second most reassignment surgeries. Second only to Thailand.

[The South Falls]

>Implying being gay is akin to being ABOUT TO DIE
>tfw bigotry lies below the surface

The worst is she’s trans

Being gay is bad, but being trans is good?

Sorry if I've offended.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The worst is she’s trans

Being gay is bad, but being trans is good?

Sorry if I've offended.

No she wants to go herself

[The South Falls]

Being gay is bad, but being trans is good?

Sorry if I've offended.

No she wants to go herself

Well, I've at least got to hand this to Gene.

She's consistent.

[Kubumba Tribe]

The worst is she’s trans

Inb4 "Islam allows trans but not gay!"

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[Diopolis]

No she wants to go herself

Well, I've at least got to hand this to Gene.

She's consistent.

That one wants to go to the penance camps under the Dio dictatorship? Why doesn't that one just live as a man?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Well, I've at least got to hand this to Gene.

She's consistent.

That one wants to go to the penance camps under the Dio dictatorship? Why doesn't that one just live as a man?

What does your theocracy look like?

[Menna Shuli]

It's better than the peanut butter example.

The peanut butter example was not referring to being gay at all, it's referring to how torture can come from activities that some or even most people find enjoyable, depending on context. You said that it's not torture if usually it isn't, but that is blatantly untrue. Swimming is usually done recreationally, but if I force someone to swim for hours until they are near drowning, it's torture. Listening to music is an enjoyable activity, but if I blare loud music at top volume for days on end into your home, it can be torture. Peanut butter is enjoyed by thousands upon thousands of people around the globe, but if I put it in the mouth of someone with allergies, it can be torture.

The second reading of your statement due to the grammatical vagueness is that if you are at a conversion camp and most of the activities are enjoyable but some of them are torture, then you can't call the torture "torture". But that's also untrue. If I pamper someone with a spa day and then spend twenty minutes beating the crap out of them with a baseball bat, the spa day does not make what I did any less an assault with a weapon. And conversion camps are no spa days.

[Diopolis]

That one wants to go to the penance camps under the Dio dictatorship? Why doesn't that one just live as a man?

What does your theocracy look like?

Governmentally, you mean?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

What does your theocracy look like?

Governmentally, you mean?

Um, what other way is there to describe a theocracy? Of course it'll be governmental.

[Diopolis]

Governmentally, you mean?

Um, what other way is there to describe a theocracy? Of course it'll be governmental.

I would have an advisory counsel to fill the confessional part- mostly SSPX priests. As my faith has less of a tradition of clerics exercising direct political power, most positions would be filled by laymen. Men who meet confessional requirements would have the vote, but parliament/congress wouldn't be all powerful. I would seek to bring in a nobility- many of the old European families still have the faith, and the noble blood, but have no throne. Proselytizing for other religions is illegal- and not like smoking a joint, either. But forced conversions are invalid, and while many senior government positions are reserved for Catholics, individuals are not penalized for remaining outside the faith. That being said, faithful Catholics retain certain privileges, the Catholic faith is taught and inculcated in schools(other faith based schools are permitted, but may not be advertised outside of their churches). The government actively seeks a concordat with the Vatican. Only Catholics may immigrate. Family law is set by the church.

[Geneviev]

No she wants to go herself

Well, I've at least got to hand this to Gene.

She's consistent.

Fairness is important.

It's better than the peanut butter example.

The peanut butter example was not referring to being gay at all, it's referring to how torture can come from activities that some or even most people find enjoyable, depending on context. You said that it's not torture if usually it isn't, but that is blatantly untrue. Swimming is usually done recreationally, but if I force someone to swim for hours until they are near drowning, it's torture. Listening to music is an enjoyable activity, but if I blare loud music at top volume for days on end into your home, it can be torture. Peanut butter is enjoyed by thousands upon thousands of people around the globe, but if I put it in the mouth of someone with allergies, it can be torture.

The second reading of your statement due to the grammatical vagueness is that if you are at a conversion camp and most of the activities are enjoyable but some of them are torture, then you can't call the torture "torture". But that's also untrue. If I pamper someone with a spa day and then spend twenty minutes beating the crap out of them with a baseball bat, the spa day does not make what I did any less an assault with a weapon. And conversion camps are no spa days.

That wasn't what I meant. If most forms of conversion therapy are not torture then it can't be considered torture.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Men who meet confessional requirements would have the vote

Why not women?

faithful Catholics retain certain privileges

Such as?

Only Catholics may immigrate.

Why?

[Diopolis]

Men who meet confessional requirements would have the vote

Why not women?

Women would be discouraged from exercising positions of authority more generally.

faithful Catholics retain certain privileges

Such as?

Preference in matters of adoption would be an obvious example. The state has a vested interest in promoting Catholicism, as it is the religion of the state.

Only Catholics may immigrate.

Why?

The goal is to convert the country.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Why not women?

Women would be discouraged from exercising positions of authority more generally.

By "authority" do you mean the highest head of state, or certain gov positions, or any authority whatsoever?

The goal is to convert the country.

Then shouldn't you want immigrants? So you can convert them?

[Reikoku]

Buddha deathmatch?

I want a fighting game where religious figures fight
Muhammed always wins because he’s not allowed to be portrayed in the game

That's already a thing. It's called SMITE.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I want a fighting game where religious figures fight
Muhammed always wins because he’s not allowed to be portrayed in the game

That's already a thing. It's called SMITE.

Nah I hate MOBAs

[Kowani]

I want a fighting game where religious figures fight
Muhammed always wins because he’s not allowed to be portrayed in the game

That's already a thing. It's called SMITE.

See, the thing is, SMITE sucks, so you’re not allowed to use it as an example...

[Aellex]

Unsurpsingly, fedora tipping atheists don't understand God as much as they think they do.
More news at 11.

Hey, more assumptions, I'm not an atheist.

Can you actually make an argument that doesn't rely on unfounded assumptions or ad homs, can you?

Lmao, you may LARP as a deist all you want boyo, that doesn't change what you actually are at heart which you've made quite clear already.

I dunno, can you? Quit your whining and change the way you behave if you don't want to be mistaken for what you allegedly aren't.

[Publica]

Hey, more assumptions, I'm not an atheist.

Can you actually make an argument that doesn't rely on unfounded assumptions or ad homs, can you?

Lmao, you may LARP as a deist all you want boyo, that doesn't change what you actually are at heart which you've made quite clear already.

I dunno, can you? Quit your whining and change the way you behave if you don't want to be mistaken for what you allegedly aren't.

*theist

[New haven america]

Hey, more assumptions, I'm not an atheist.

Can you actually make an argument that doesn't rely on unfounded assumptions or ad homs, can you?

1. Lmao, you may LARP as a deist all you want boyo, that doesn't change what you actually are at heart which you've made quite clear already.

2. I dunno, can you? Quit your whining and change the way you behave if you don't want to be mistaken for what you allegedly aren't.

1. Got it. You're not capable of doing such.

2. So, because someone doesn't act like a bible humping ultra radical, then that makes them not what they say they are? The mental gymnastics you have to go through to get that point must be quite tiring. Explains why you can't come up with actual arguments.

[Diopolis]

Women would be discouraged from exercising positions of authority more generally.

By "authority" do you mean the highest head of state, or certain gov positions, or any authority whatsoever?

As a general principle a woman should not be in a position of authority over a man- although sometimes unavoidable, it's more of a necessary evil than something to be inculcated. I would also discourage female police officers, for example.

The goal is to convert the country.

Then shouldn't you want immigrants? So you can convert them?

If they're converted, then yes. But American culture doesn't exactly make anyone who steps foot in is a Catholic.

[The New California Republic]

By "authority" do you mean the highest head of state, or certain gov positions, or any authority whatsoever?

As a general principle a woman should not be in a position of authority over a man- although sometimes unavoidable, it's more of a necessary evil than something to be inculcated. I would also discourage female police officers, for example.

Why, pray tell?

Excuse the pun.

[Hammer Britannia]

As a general principle a woman should not be in a position of authority over a man- although sometimes unavoidable, it's more of a necessary evil than something to be inculcated. I would also discourage female police officers, for example.

Why, pray tell?

Excuse the pun.

The pun is the answer

Because a guy who "Inspired" a book said so.

[Saranidia]

>Implying being gay is akin to being ABOUT TO DIE
>tfw bigotry lies below the surface

The worst is she’s trans

did you know islam supports trans-women(source:https://www.huffingtonpost.com/liaquat-ali-khan/transgender-dignity-in-is_b_10089712.html?guccounter=1)