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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:12 pm

Jolthig wrote:Theocracy is the topic, people. :p

B-But men...menstrual p-periods....

fine
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:23 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Theocracy is the topic, people. :p

B-But men...menstrual p-periods....

fine

Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:B-But men...menstrual p-periods....

fine

Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

Anyone who isn't high on methamphetamine, corrupt, or swears allegiance to Saudi Arabia agrees on that :P
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:B-But men...menstrual p-periods....

fine

Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

>"Even Amin"
Wtfreak is this supposed to mean? :p loljk
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:28 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

Anyone who isn't high on methamphetamine, corrupt, or swears allegiance to Saudi Arabia agrees on that :P

Lol

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

>"Even Amin"
Wtfreak is this supposed to mean? :p loljk

I remember your argument with Larin earlier this year on Saudi Arabia. :p
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:28 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

>"Even Amin"
Wtfreak is this supposed to mean? :p loljk

I was half expecting you to scream 'cyka blyat' xD
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:29 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>"Even Amin"
Wtfreak is this supposed to mean? :p loljk

I was half expecting you to scream 'cyka blyat' xD

Cyka blyat?
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:31 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I was half expecting you to scream 'cyka blyat' xD

Cyka blyat?

https://www.google.com/search?q=cyka+bl ... e&ie=UTF-8
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:32 pm


ye. I have become indoctrinated into meme culture.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:34 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:

ye. I have become indoctrinated into meme culture.

Well. Astaghfirallah. Lol
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:26 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:B-But men...menstrual p-periods....

fine

Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

Honestly, is Iran equally as bad as Saudi Arabia, though? Really?
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:35 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

Honestly, is Iran equally as bad as Saudi Arabia, though? Really?

You're right. I just wanted to get back to the topic of theocracy lol

Still, Iran is bad enough to not be of my taste. Lol
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:55 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Honestly, is Iran equally as bad as Saudi Arabia, though? Really?

You're right. I just wanted to get back to the topic of theocracy lol

Still, Iran is bad enough to not be of my taste. Lol

I mean, yeah lol. The IR is pretty fucking bad. I'm not going to dispute that.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That depends on his thoughts.

Not sure what period sex has to do with a theocracy...

Period and anal sex are forbidden in Islam.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:04 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:You're right. I just wanted to get back to the topic of theocracy lol

Still, Iran is bad enough to not be of my taste. Lol

I mean, yeah lol. The IR is pretty fucking bad. I'm not going to dispute that.

IR you... :p
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“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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Postby Hystaria » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:05 pm

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Reikoku wrote:Theocracy has almost always ended in disaster and relies on ignorance and self-righteousness disguised as piety and humility. There have been some Buddhist theocracies, such as Tibet, and Buddhist countries with blasphemy laws, such as Sri Lanka. But they forgot the true meaning of Buddhism in favor of pride and self-aggrandizement. I will never accept any type of theocracy, especially from my own religion.

Yes as a Tibetan Buddhist even I shudder at the idea of monks ruling the nation

"But they forgot the true meaning of Buddhism in favor of pride and self-aggrandizement."
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:12 pm

Hystaria wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yes as a Tibetan Buddhist even I shudder at the idea of monks ruling the nation

"But they forgot the true meaning of Buddhism in favor of pride and self-aggrandizement."
Do some reasearch

What do you think about theocracies?
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Postby Bassoe » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Elenir wrote: But I believe in the future, when the earth's resources are low and we are in the need of a great cultural change, religion will play a major role in that.
Like eco-religion, a weird concept.

Nah. When the Earth’s resources get low, either we colonize space, learn how to recycle, cut back production, or invent synthetic foodstuffs, or we’re screwed. Any religion that currently exists on Earth will be utterly useless in helping a demoralized, terrified people against the vast, empty, darkness of space.

Regardless of whether religion is factually correct, or morally justified, or a contagious memetic hazard, it can provide a darwinian advantage. Or just as easily in other circumstances, a disadvantage as factually incorrect beliefs are used in decision-making.

That said, I haven’t seen any Vatican space program to spread god’s word to any hypothetical aliens out there, so until such a thing gets funded and actually builds rockets, claims that “religion helps with space travel” aren’t provable.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:49 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Not sure what period sex has to do with a theocracy...

Period and anal sex are forbidden in Islam.


I mean, let's be real here...

Despite being bisexual myself, anal sex is rather unappealing to me. Sticking my genitalia into an expressly made to flush out body waste is not really my cup of tea, even if the position of a man's prostate might be a counterpoint at times.

That said, some people like it, and if it causes no permanent, grievious or long-term harm when performed properly...Do I really care about where people put their willies?

For example, I despise cheese, but it does not make me want to ban every cheese type on earth.

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Postby Reikoku » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:52 pm

Hystaria wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yes as a Tibetan Buddhist even I shudder at the idea of monks ruling the nation

"But they forgot the true meaning of Buddhism in favor of pride and self-aggrandizement."
Do some reasearch


What am I supposed to do research about? :eyebrow:

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Postby Syfenq » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:50 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Period and anal sex are forbidden in Islam.


I mean, let's be real here...

Despite being bisexual myself, anal sex is rather unappealing to me. Sticking my genitalia into an expressly made to flush out body waste is not really my cup of tea, even if the position of a man's prostate might be a counterpoint at times.

That said, some people like it, and if it causes no permanent, grievious or long-term harm when performed properly...Do I really care about where people put their willies?

For example, I despise cheese, but it does not make me want to ban every cheese type on earth.


Shia seem more ok with it, they're generally more chill on these kinds of things than Sunnis.

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Postby Saranidia » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:55 am

Jolthig wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:B-But men...menstrual p-periods....

fine

Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

Saudi is an absolute monarchy not a theocracy.
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Postby Saranidia » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:58 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Reikoku wrote:Theocracy has almost always ended in disaster and relies on ignorance and self-righteousness disguised as piety and humility. There have been some Buddhist theocracies, such as Tibet, and Buddhist countries with blasphemy laws, such as Sri Lanka. But they forgot the true meaning of Buddhism in favor of pride and self-aggrandizement. I will never accept any type of theocracy, especially from my own religion.

Yes as a Tibetan Buddhist even I shudder at the idea of monks ruling the nation

Why exactly?
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:57 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Iran and Saudi Arabia is equally bad theocracies. Even Amin says Saudi Arabia is bad.

Saudi is an absolute monarchy not a theocracy.

The country calls the Quran its constitution.

theocracy noun
the·oc·ra·cy | \thē-ˈä-krə-sē \
plural theocracies
Definition of theocracy
1 : government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided

That pretty handily fits this definition if you consider the direct words of God to be your constitution.
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Postby Saranidia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:49 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Saranidia wrote:Saudi is an absolute monarchy not a theocracy.

The country calls the Quran its constitution.

theocracy noun
the·oc·ra·cy | \thē-ˈä-krə-sē \
plural theocracies
Definition of theocracy
1 : government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided

That pretty handily fits this definition if you consider the direct words of God to be your constitution.


oh ok In that way Gaddafist Libya would be a theocracy due to the cultural revolution http://countrystudies.us/libya/79.htm


Saudi Arabia is de-facto not a theocracy though do it's haram actions such as child murder in in Yemen and it's murder of people under the protection of other Muslim ruled states(Turkey) who are not combatants against them.
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