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Postby Olerand » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:37 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Because she still might not want to have sex. Just because you can't say "no" doesn't mean you want something.

But the Quran literally says she has to give him sex whenever he wants. So she can't refuse.

It's a hadith, not the Koran.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:37 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Because she still might not want to have sex. Just because you can't say "no" doesn't mean you want something.

But the Quran literally says she has to give him sex whenever he wants. So she can't refuse.

Read my 2nd sentence.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Should this be in the IDT3 or should we stay here?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:40 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Did you really.......

Did I really what?
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Hm.....I guess you could choose which religious law to follow, or follow secular law.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:41 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Did I really what?

Hm.....I guess you could choose which religious law to follow, or follow secular law.

Well I choose secular
Can everyone choose secular law?

No.
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Postby Elenir » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:41 pm

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:41 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:But the Quran literally says she has to give him sex whenever he wants. So she can't refuse.

Read my 2nd sentence.

But this in no way prevents rape and encourages it
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Postby Kaggeceria » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:But the Quran literally says she has to give him sex whenever he wants. So she can't refuse.

Read my 2nd sentence.

She

can't

refuse

What part of this do you not understand? The Quran compels her to give him sex whenever he wants.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:42 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Read my 2nd sentence.

But this in no way prevents rape and encourages it

Punishment for rape is 100 lashes.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well I choose secular
Can everyone choose secular law?

No.

Why not? I thought Muslims were free to leave their faith
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Postby Kaggeceria » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:42 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:No.

Why not? I thought Muslims were free to leave their faith

The penalty for apostasy is death.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:43 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Read my 2nd sentence.

She

can't

refuse

What part of this do you not understand? The Quran compels her to give him sex whenever he wants.

So you think she wants it because she can't say "no"?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:43 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:But this in no way prevents rape and encourages it

Punishment for rape is 100 lashes.

But you can rape your wife and she can’t say no
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:44 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:No.

Why not? I thought Muslims were free to leave their faith

I thought you were talking about monoreligious people whose religion has laws.
Yes they can, but it's a heavy sin.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:44 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Punishment for rape is 100 lashes.

But you can rape your wife and she can’t say no

She can report it.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:44 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:She

can't

refuse

What part of this do you not understand? The Quran compels her to give him sex whenever he wants.

So you think she wants it because she can't say "no"?

Do you think Muslims should follow the Quran.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and go with "yes".

If that's the case then the Quran tells them they have to have sex with their husband whenever he wants.

Whether she wants it or not doesn't matter to the Quran. She has to provide him with it.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:45 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So you think she wants it because she can't say "no"?

Do you think Muslims should follow the Quran.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and go with "yes".

If that's the case then the Quran tells them they have to have sex with their husband whenever he wants.

Whether she wants it or not doesn't matter to the Quran. She has to provide him with it.

Muslims don't follow the Holy Qur'an alone.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Do you think Muslims should follow the Quran.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and go with "yes".

If that's the case then the Quran tells them they have to have sex with their husband whenever he wants.

Whether she wants it or not doesn't matter to the Quran. She has to provide him with it.

Muslims don't follow the Holy Qur'an alone.

I see. So even though the Quran says to let your husband have sex whenever he wants you don't actually do that.

In other words, you don't follow the "Holy Qur'an".

I thought that was bad in your eyes?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:48 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:But you can rape your wife and she can’t say no

She can report it.

Why not let her say no and prevent the rape in the first place
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:55 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:She can report it.

Why not let her say no and prevent the rape in the first place


she can defend herself as self-defence is a right in Islam.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:56 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why not let her say no and prevent the rape in the first place


she can defend herself as self-defence is a right in Islam.

But she can't say no... What is she defending herself from?
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:56 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:She can report it.

Why not let her say no and prevent the rape in the first place

btw what country do you live in, Alex?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:58 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why not let her say no and prevent the rape in the first place

btw what country do you live in, Alex?

America
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:58 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why not let her say no and prevent the rape in the first place


she can defend herself as self-defence is a right in Islam.

But she can’t refuse
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:06 pm

Olerand wrote:
Saranidia wrote:
she can defend herself as self-defence is a right in Islam.

But she can't say no... What is she defending herself from?

Rape.
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