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Gospel Power
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Postby Gospel Power » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:09 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Gospel Power wrote:Like your values are about liberlism, my values are chrisrltian, and no i will not keep them private i am not afraid of no one, it is time to us christiqns to shout it

I've never heard of that religion...

Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

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Postby Saranidia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:09 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Gospel Power wrote:like it going to happen in the secular world, well Caliphate is another thing about the west since in my beliefs it going to happen with the mass of immigrants they are accepting but that is another story, but the secular world is not going to become a christian theocracy because of liberlism

I’m asking you to imagine what it would be like to live under a theocracy of a different faith

I might prefer it to secularism because it might agree more with me.
depending on what you mean by theocracy.

I would prefer a theocracy of my own faith all else being equal but only because I would prefer a government I agree with.
I wouldn’t ban bishops from the house of lords in England in alliance with secularists for example.

I do think that making religion an absolute requirement for all offices even if a person of another faith is willing to exercise the office in line with a religious legal system is prejudice though(EG in a Muslim theocracy of say Malaysia if it became a theocracy why shouldn’t a Christian be allowed to be a police officer, councillor or even Member Of Parliament)
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:09 pm

I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Gospel Power wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I've never heard of that religion...

Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

To give his view on things, like everyone else here, there is no thread ownership in NS general, people can talk about what ever fucking topic they want.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Idk what's the difference between the European left and the CCP?

Oh, right, it's insulting to generalize entire swathes of the population by their most extreme elements.

The CCP isn't even a leftist party anymore, it's really a capitalist totalitarian party.

I think you mean the CPC
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:11 pm

Gospel Power wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I've never heard of that religion...

Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

Non-theocrats are allowed to post here. You cannot restrict access to NS forums based on religious/political views.

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Postby Saranidia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:11 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

I think it’s a response to “my body my choice” from a “life begins at conception” Point of view.
IE they agree she can do what she wants to things you both agree are their body but the fetus which they consider another person should be to paraphrase them “left alone”
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:12 pm

Gospel Power wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I've never heard of that religion...

Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

Because I am allowed to post here. I have told you repeatedly in this thread and others, that there are no closed threads in NSGeneral, so I will keep posting here whether you like it or not.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

Yeah, I was a bit creeped out by that statement.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm

Gospel Power wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I've never heard of that religion...

Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

You have no power here!!
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:The CCP isn't even a leftist party anymore, it's really a capitalist totalitarian party.

I think you mean the CPC

The only communist parties called "CPC" are the Communist Party of China (Chinese Communist Party with the words rearranged) and Communist Party of Canada (which does not endorse authoritarianism)

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

What the fuck?
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Postby Saranidia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Gospel Power wrote:Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

Because I am allowed to post here. I have told you repeatedly in this thread and others, that there are no closed threads in NSGeneral, so I will keep posting here whether you like it or not.

Good point there are no closed threads here.
They might mean if you don’t believe in God then of course you don’t want rule based on God.
Although opposing theocracy on atheist grounds is also advocating that the government make government become based on a religious belief(in this case “the lack of”)
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Postby Olerand » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Olerand wrote:As I've already responded with the relevant figures, I will point you to my earlier post. All of these positions are awfully radical. And yet have the support of a majority of Republicans, many State parties, and many national Republicans. How odd. It's almost as if the Republican Party is the sister party of the Muslim Brotherhood, who support much the same policies.


See my previous post. And I don't care about the bootleg identitaires, I'm not counting them in these calculations, for I said radical right, not far-right.

No you said the American right. Not the radical right.

Olerand wrote:As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?


That’s your own quote. Unless you can’t read your own posts.

Uh... Did you read the post I directed you to? I said American right, and I said radical right. For you see, they are one and the same. Sibling to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I’m asking you to imagine what it would be like to live under a theocracy of a different faith

I might prefer it to secularism because it might agree more with me.
depending on what you mean by theocracy.

I would prefer a theocracy of my own faith all else being equal but only because I would prefer a government I agree with.
I wouldn’t ban bishops from the house of lords in England in alliance with secularists for example.

I do think that making religion an absolute requirement for all offices even if a person of another faith is willing to exercise the office in line with a religious legal system is prejudice though(EG in a Muslim theocracy of say Malaysia if it became a theocracy why shouldn’t a Christian be allowed to be a police officer, councillor or even Member Of Parliament)

So you wouldn’t want to live under a government ruled by a different religion, but if it’s your religion people can live under it?
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Saranidia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

I think it’s a response to “my body my choice” from a “life begins at conception” Point of view.
IE they agree she can do what she wants to things you both agree are their body but the fetus which they consider another person should be to paraphrase them “left alone”

In fact, he said "women's rights end when the child is born". Make your mind up, Gospel Power.

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Postby Saranidia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

What the fuck?

See my explanation on the point they are clumsily making.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think you mean the CPC

The only communist parties called "CPC" are the Communist Party of China (Chinese Communist Party with the words rearranged) and Communist Party of Canada (which does not endorse authoritarianism)

CPC is the official designation of the Communist Party of China.

So I don’t know where CCP comes in or what it is talking about because I can’t find anything that has CCP
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

What the fuck?

Gospel Power wrote:1: abortion is a murder, women right ends when a child is born, she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone



Saranidia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I want clarification on what "she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone" means

I think it’s a response to “my body my choice” from a “life begins at conception” Point of view.
IE they agree she can do what she wants to things you both agree are their body but the fetus which they consider another person should be to paraphrase them “left alone”
But it literally makes no sense, the only thing i can grasp from that statement is that the woman should somehow end her own life but not end the foetus, which is literally impossible.
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Postby Saranidia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:16 pm

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Saranidia wrote:I think it’s a response to “my body my choice” from a “life begins at conception” Point of view.
IE they agree she can do what she wants to things you both agree are their body but the fetus which they consider another person should be to paraphrase them “left alone”

In fact, he said "women's rights end when the child is born". Make your mind up, Gospel Power.

Good point.
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Postby Gospel Power » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm

Everything have been said, what a relief

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What the fuck?

Gospel Power wrote:1: abortion is a murder, women right ends when a child is born, she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone



Saranidia wrote:I think it’s a response to “my body my choice” from a “life begins at conception” Point of view.
IE they agree she can do what she wants to things you both agree are their body but the fetus which they consider another person should be to paraphrase them “left alone”
But it literally makes no sense, the only thing i can grasp from that statement is that the woman should somehow end her own life but not end the foetus, which is literally impossible.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm

Olerand wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:War on Christmas was a terrorism reference discussing terrorists attacks in December.

Nobody in the Republican Party save for radicals does support creationism, but opposes evolution save for radicals.

Prayers allowed in school but not enforced

Etc

Where's the terrorism?

Your sentence doesn't actually make sense, how I've read it, but are you claiming that the Republican Party of Texas, the most populous red State, is filled with radicals?
I definitely don't disagree. But I would generalize this beyond Texas, there are many States that have creationism as a part of their "scientific" curriculum. Though yet again, what to expect when a plurality (almost half even) of the country believes in creationism, while the second largest group believes in intelligent design.

And school prayers aren't mandatory in many States only because the Supreme Court, a radically different Supreme Court back in the 60s, banned them. But 80% of Republicans still support praying in schools, and in red States where not praying makes you the outcast, the libtard, how likely are kids to break this norm? About as likely as Egyptian women are to not wear the hijab or not be genitally mutilated, both of which are by no means de facto required.

Now, I certainly don't disagree that all of these positions are very radical. But it seems that Republicans like them. That might suggest something about the American right, no?

As a person that lives in the “radical state of Texas” or rather “a radical red state” your claims can not be any further from the truth. Local news does not paint, nor support those viewpoints. Nor the most locals of Texas. I rather trust the opinions of my peers, rather the words of a French foreigner.

In America we have a thing called, “big tent” politics, and it refers to a party holding many and multiple views, sometimes opposing one another, I advise you look into it.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm

Gospel Power wrote:Everything have been said, what a relief

...

...what? :eyebrow:
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Postby Olerand » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm

Gospel Power wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I've never heard of that religion...

Go away and stop thinking about religion or what i am saying, in your view God is not real, so why you are here?

Again, religion mandates that the non-religious get involved in its affairs. For unfortunately, when religion has any power, it doesn't leave the non-religious at peace, does it?
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