Theocracy Discussion Thread

[Kubumba Tribe]

Theocracy and in particular Islamic theocracies

Why?

are a valid reason for foreign intervention and regime change.

You know the kinds of problems that causes, right?

No region has only one religion so no region should be governed by the rules of any one religion.

I agree.

Theocracy and in particular Islamic theocracies are a valid reason for foreign intervention and regime change. No region has only one religion so no region should be governed by the rules of any one religion.

ALLAH AKBAR

*Allahu Akbar
Aameen!

ALLAH AKBAR

God is greater than...?

Come on finish the thought.

No, it means "God is great/greater". "Greater than" is a different word that I can't remember.

I have no love for theocracies, but I’m not exactly opposed to it, only if their size extends to the size of Vatican City. Anything bigger I would question their piety. If theocracies are as humble as they claim they are, they should be happy with just a city.

I could get behind say, Mecca being a theocracy that anyone is free to leave. Make it a wholly voluntary experience

Except that's not how a Caliphate works. And people can move if want to, that's a non-issue.

Hatta

Whomst?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Theocracy and in particular Islamic theocracies

Why?

are a valid reason for foreign intervention and regime change.

You know the kinds of problems that causes, right?

No region has only one religion so no region should be governed by the rules of any one religion.

I agree.

ALLAH AKBAR

*Allahu Akbar
Aameen!

God is greater than...?

Come on finish the thought.

No, it means "God is great/greater". "Greater than" is a different word that I can't remember.

I could get behind say, Mecca being a theocracy that anyone is free to leave. Make it a wholly voluntary experience

Except that's not how a Caliphate works. And people can move if want to, that's a non-issue.

Hatta

Whomst?

Which part isn’t how a caliphate works?

[Len Hyet]

Theocracy and in particular Islamic theocracies

Why?

are a valid reason for foreign intervention and regime change.

You know the kinds of problems that causes, right?

No region has only one religion so no region should be governed by the rules of any one religion.

I agree.

ALLAH AKBAR

*Allahu Akbar
Aameen!

God is greater than...?

Come on finish the thought.

No, it means "God is great/greater". "Greater than" is a different word that I can't remember.

I could get behind say, Mecca being a theocracy that anyone is free to leave. Make it a wholly voluntary experience

Except that's not how a Caliphate works. And people can move if want to, that's a non-issue.

Hatta

Whomst?

Ah, my mistake I misunderstood.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

I strongly oppose theocracy. The law should be entirely secular to ensure religious equality - centring a nation's laws around unproven religious dogma completely undermines that and is discriminatory against religious minorities and irreligious individuals. Furthermore, most theocracies are oligarchical in nature, which often leads to oppression of the people.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Theocracies have no place in the civlized world, AKA almost everywhere. Even the Vactian has to follow a secular legislation. Every individual it's and must be equal to the eyes of justice.

Related to the topic, i'm looking for information about opression on Tibet (Maoist and Nationalist propaganda has intrigued me), Bhutan and the Vactian (i would like to know why Painisia mentioned them, apart from their corruption scandals i wonder if they did something worse).

I went to Tibet for a stint a while ago
I personally didn’t see much personally except for when I went to Lhasa where I felt the communist party’s presence pretty strongly

[Gospel Power]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

[Len Hyet]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

No thanks.

[Olerand]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

[Len Hyet]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

Idk what's the difference between the European left and the CCP?

Oh, right, it's insulting to generalize entire swathes of the population by their most extreme elements.

[Holy Tedalonia]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

America’s “right” vary heavily, conservatives are the super Christian group in the Republican Party, this is what you would refer to a far right conservative radical. Most conservatives don’t go that far.

[Nova Colombian Confederation]

I went to Tibet for a stint a while ago
I personally didn’t see much personally except for when I went to Lhasa where I felt the communist party’s presence pretty strongly

I'm asking because some lil' pieces of Chinese propaganda display Tibet before being invaded as a fedualist hellhole.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

1. Don't make me debunk the claim that a blanket ban on abortion does not work for the 76th time
2. Creationism has no scientific basis
3. Prayers in school for one religion are discriminatory against students with another religion or no religion. Plus, school should encourage critical thinking rather than proselytise.
4. Hate speech is defined as "speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity". Why should racist, sexist, xenophobic, religiously discriminatory or homophobic religious preaching not be labelled as hate speech?

[Olerand]

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

Idk what's the difference between the European left and the CCP?

Oh, right, it's insulting to generalize entire swathes of the population by their most extreme elements.

The CCP being the Communist party? Well, the vast majority of the left, and even the Communist parties of Europe (minus the unreformed ones like those of the Czech Republic or Greece) don't support most of the policies of the CCP, and wouldn't enforce them in their country.

Now, you're going to tell me that all of these positions: "to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego"

are not systematically on the Republican platform?

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

America’s “right” vary heavily, conservatives are the super Christian group in the Republican Party, this is what you would refer to a far right conservative radical. Most conservatives don’t go that far.

So these positions aren't on the Republican platform? Republicans have never railed about these ills, or promised to bring about laws and changes to bring these positions into force?

No war on Christmas? No school manuals that teach creationism? No prayers in schools? No decrying of the oppression of Christians' "free speech"?

You're positively sure you want to make this claim?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Idk what's the difference between the European left and the CCP?

Oh, right, it's insulting to generalize entire swathes of the population by their most extreme elements.

The CCP being the Communist party? Well, the vast majority of the left, and even the Communist parties of Europe (minus the unreformed ones like those of the Czech Republic or Greece) don't support most of the policies of the CCP, and wouldn't enforce them in their country.

Now, you're going to tell me that all of these positions: "to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego"

are not systematically on the Republican platform?

America’s “right” vary heavily, conservatives are the super Christian group in the Republican Party, this is what you would refer to a far right conservative radical. Most conservatives don’t go that far.

So these positions aren't on the Republican platform? Republicans have never railed about these ills, or promised to bring about laws and changes to bring these positions into force?

No war on Christmas? No school manuals that teach creationism? No prayers in schools? No decrying of the oppression of Christians' "free speech"?

You're positively sure you want to make this claim?

War on Christmas was a terrorism reference discussing terrorists attacks in December.

Nobody in the Republican Party save for radicals does support creationism, but opposes evolution save for radicals.

Prayers allowed in school but not enforced

Etc

[The New California Republic]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

Lol. no.

[Thermodolia]

Theocracy along with any religion that proposes it should be eliminated with those advocating for it going to prison

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

Idk what's the difference between the European left and the CCP?

Oh, right, it's insulting to generalize entire swathes of the population by their most extreme elements.

The CCP isn't even a leftist party anymore, it's really a capitalist totalitarian party.

[Len Hyet]

Idk what's the difference between the European left and the CCP?

Oh, right, it's insulting to generalize entire swathes of the population by their most extreme elements.

The CCP being the Communist party? Well, the vast majority of the left, and even the Communist parties of Europe (minus the unreformed ones like those of the Czech Republic or Greece) don't support most of the policies of the CCP, and wouldn't enforce them in their country.

Now, you're going to tell me that all of these positions: "to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego"

are not systematically on the Republican platform?

America’s “right” vary heavily, conservatives are the super Christian group in the Republican Party, this is what you would refer to a far right conservative radical. Most conservatives don’t go that far.

So these positions aren't on the Republican platform? Republicans have never railed about these ills, or promised to bring about laws and changes to bring these positions into force?

No war on Christmas? No school manuals that teach creationism? No prayers in schools? No decrying of the oppression of Christians' "free speech"?

You're positively sure you want to make this claim?

You're not an American I don't believe so this nuance might have escaped you, but the Republican party and the American Right are not monolithic entities. Some 34% of American Republicans are pro-choice, while some do want creationism taught in school it's hardly universal with some 43% of Republicans believing in evolution 5 years ago (the number likely to have increased), and even 45% of Democrats supporting daily school prayer.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Theocracy along with anyone and any religion that proposes it should be eliminated

Advocating death. Very funny

[Gospel Power]

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

America’s “right” vary heavily, conservatives are the super Christian group in the Republican Party, this is what you would refer to a far right conservative radical. Most conservatives don’t go that far.

Well here we go, it's the country i want to live, call it radical or not i don't care, i want to live by god rules and not man made

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

1. Don't make me debunk the claim that a blanket ban on abortion does not work for the 76th time
2. Creationism has no scientific basis
3. Prayers in school for one religion are discriminatory against students with another religion or no religion. Plus, school should encourage critical thinking rather than proselytise.
4. Hate speech is defined as "speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity". Why should racist, sexist, xenophobic, religiously discriminatory or homophobic religious preaching not be labelled as hate speech?

1: abortion is a murder, women right ends when a child is born, she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone
2: your evolution is men made
3: "Prayers in school for one religion are discriminatory against students with another religion or no religion. Plus, school should encourage critical thinking rather than proselytise" well i don't want to live in such country, i want only one religion and it christianity and i don't care about
discriminatory, it is what i want, not it going to happen in the near future
4: Well, i don't care what you say about speech that attacks blah blah blah, if God probhits homosexuality i will preach it and i don't care it they are feeling bad about it, and yes it is wrong and a sin, here i said it race is not importent, and disable people are respected

[Internationalist Bastard]

I went to Tibet for a stint a while ago
I personally didn’t see much personally except for when I went to Lhasa where I felt the communist party’s presence pretty strongly

I'm asking because some lil' pieces of Chinese propaganda display Tibet before being invaded as a fedualist hellhole.

Yeah that’s pretty much what the posters said
It’s not really far wrong either, again, as a Tibetan Buddhist

[Thermodolia]

theocracy or not, if i would live in a country, i would like it:

to ban abortions

to teach creationism and not only evolution

to lead prayers in school

allow christians to preach without call it "hate speech" if they preach verses that not fit into their ego

Yeah, batter a theocracy

As always, I ask, what is the difference between the American right and the Muslim Brotherhood?

Not all of the American right are uber religious nuts. Actually most of the alt-right are Atheist

[Thermodolia]

Theocracy along with anyone and any religion that proposes it should be eliminated

Advocating death. Very funny

Eliminated doesn’t have to mean death. It can very well mean deportation as I would prefer. Or jail time

[The New California Republic]

1: abortion is a murder, women right ends when a child is born, she can abort herself, but she need to leave the child alone

"She can abort herself"? What the actual fuck does that mean?

2: your evolution is men made

Yes, evolution made men, your point?

i want only one religion and it christianity and i don't care about discriminatory

Sounds extremist to me.

4: Well, i don't care what you say about speech that attacks blah blah blah, if God probhits homosexuality i will preach it and i don't care it they are feeling bad about it, and yes it is wrong and a sin, here i said it race is not importent, and disable people are respected

So disabled people and other races are OK, but the icky gays aren't. How generous(!)

[Northeast American Federation]

Theocracy is totalitarianism but by religion rather than secular ideology.