Irish Blasphemy Referendum 2018

[Kubumba Tribe]

Authoritaian, no. Theocratic, yes.

Enforced, not forced. And only if they adhere to a religion. Note how I say "a" and not "my".

Oh no you are very authoritarian, by definition.

How?

Something that you refuse to understand is that a person's beliefs are not actually defined but some simplistic label that allows you to put them into boxes, not even religious beliefs. A person can call themselves a Christian and believe anything about the trinity or who gets into heaven and by what standards and what OT laws are rendered invalid by Christ and what still are enforced.

Who's the person doing that tho?

Your idea of using the law and government to punish people for the most trivial of reasons

Who's calling them trivial?

AND to have different sets of laws for different people is both immoral and idiotic.

Says who?

Either the law applies to all or none.

Maybe in your ideology, but not in mine.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Geneviev, I there's an ideology that you would like

[Genivaria]

Oh no you are very authoritarian, by definition.

How?

Something that you refuse to understand is that a person's beliefs are not actually defined but some simplistic label that allows you to put them into boxes, not even religious beliefs. A person can call themselves a Christian and believe anything about the trinity or who gets into heaven and by what standards and what OT laws are rendered invalid by Christ and what still are enforced.

1. Who's the person doing that tho?

Your idea of using the law and government to punish people for the most trivial of reasons

2. Who's calling them trivial?

AND to have different sets of laws for different people is both immoral and idiotic.

3. Says who?

Either the law applies to all or none.

Maybe in your ideology, but not in mine.

Then your ideology is idiotic, attempting to downplay it as "Well that's just your and opinion, mine is different" is both lazy and telling.
1. Doing what?
2. I am, I just did.
3. Hi me again, please keep up.

[Kubumba Tribe]

How?

1. Who's the person doing that tho?

2. Who's calling them trivial?

3. Says who?

Maybe in your ideology, but not in mine.

Then your ideology is idiotic, attempting to downplay it as "Well that's just your and opinion, mine is different"

It is just your opinion.

is both lazy

How?

and telling.

Telling what?

1. Doing what?

Who's the Christian (or to be more exact, Catholic) saying "I'll follow this, but not this"? Is he/she a layman or a learned person?

2. I am, I just did.
3. Hi me again, please keep up.

And why should your word go above the word of Allah SWT?
Also, you haven't explained how Democratic Theocracy and/or Islamism is authoritarian.

[Genivaria]

Then your ideology is idiotic, attempting to downplay it as "Well that's just your and opinion, mine is different"

It is just your opinion.

is both lazy

How?

and telling.

Telling what?

1. Doing what?

Who's the Christian (or to be more exact, Catholic) saying "I'll follow this, but not this"? Is he/she a layman or a learned person?

2. I am, I just did.
3. Hi me again, please keep up.

And why should your word go above the word of Allah SWT?
Also, you haven't explained how Democratic Theocracy and/or Islamism is authoritarian.

So you don't actually have any argument except 'well that's just your opinion man!' ?
Got it, very lazy.

[Kubumba Tribe]

It is just your opinion.

How?

Telling what?

Who's the Christian (or to be more exact, Catholic) saying "I'll follow this, but not this"? Is he/she a layman or a learned person?

And why should your word go above the word of Allah SWT?
Also, you haven't explained how Democratic Theocracy and/or Islamism is authoritarian.

So you don't actually have any argument except 'well that's just your opinion man!' ?
Got it, very lazy.

Um....ok?
You still haven't explained what's telling nor how Democratic Theocracy and/or Islamism is authoritarian.

[Zander Cerebella]

I'll be voting for it's removal.
The state should have no power to persecute people who criticise any religion, be it the state religion or a minority religion.
The trouble with Stephen Fry a few years ago was an absolute joke.

[Crockerland]

No more free speech in the Irish State of Iraq and the Levant.

[Aggicificicerous]

Enforced, not forced. And only if they adhere to a religion. Note how I say "a" and not "my".

Judge: How do you plead against the charges of blasphemy?
Person: Not religious.

Great law.

[The Grims]

Enforced, not forced. And only if they adhere to a religion. Note how I say "a" and not "my".

Judge: How do you plead against the charges of blasphemy?
Person: Not religious.

Great law.

Can you convert for a few minutes to avoid being sentenced ?

You: "The Christian God is a shitbag !"
Cops: Blasphemy police !
You: "Eehm, I am a Hindu since 10 o clock this morning"
Cops: "Oh ok, carry on sir"
You: "Think I shall convert back now"

[Right wing humour squad]

No religious law should be present in any country on the planet.

[Greate Boston]

Ireland has a good democracy, well comparatively speaking. They should just get rid of blasphemy laws and whatever the fuck else religious laws they still have, though. There can never be too much secularism.

[Loben]

Ireland has a good democracy, well comparatively speaking. They should just get rid of blasphemy laws and whatever the fuck else religious laws they still have, though. There can never be too much secularism.

why not dynamite some churches too?

after all! never too much secularism! /s

[Greate Boston]

Ireland has a good democracy, well comparatively speaking. They should just get rid of blasphemy laws and whatever the fuck else religious laws they still have, though. There can never be too much secularism.

why not dynamite some churches too?

after all! never too much secularism! /s

I don't think "dynamiting Churches" is even relevant to secularism (separation of church and the state), but nice baiting.

[Trumptonium1]

"Varadkar" ripping Ireland's national identity apart one by one I see.

[The Free Joy State]

First legalising gay marriage, then abortion, and now a referendum on the antiquated blasphemy laws.

Good going, Ireland!

[Vassenor]

Good. Blasphemy laws are a goddamn anachronism.

[Medwedian Democratic Federation]

Ireland is falling as one of thr last bastions of truly Christian law and moral decency. This is a great shame.

Why are they doing it?

If Ireland is Catholic, people should accept it. If I am not allowed to insult Islam in Saudi Arabia (such a law is perfectly fine, because Islam is the dominant and historic religion of that country), I should not be allowed to insult Christianity in Ireland, either (such a law is also perfectly fine). Or in Italy. Or in Germany. Or in Russia. Or in the USA.

Governments giving in to the demands of few SJW snowflakes make me sick.

Ireland, stop the referendum. And revoke the abortion one (because you legalized child murder).

As always, it’s not a minority giving in to a majority whose feelings it hurt but a majority giving in to a minority whose feelings it hurt.

Leftism will never take us anywhere but Hell.

[A m e n r i a]

Blasphemy is wrong, plain and simple. A secular government doesn't care about right and wrong, and is apathetic at best and abusive at worst. For their sake, I hope blaspemy remains an offence there. If anything, punishment for such a terrible sin should be worse.

[Vassenor]

Ireland is falling as one of thr last bastions of truly Christian law and moral decency. This is a great shame.

Why are they doing it?

If Ireland is Catholic, people should accept it. If I am not allowed to insult Islam in Saudi Arabia (which is perfectly fine, because Islam is the dominant and historic religion of that country), I should not be allowed to insult Christianity in Ireland, either (which is also perfectly fine).

Governments giving in to the demands of few SJW snowflakes make me sick.

Ireland, stop the referendum. And revoke the abortion one (because you legalized child murder).

I guess that means half the population is "SJW snowflakes". Because honestly, reading that screed the only snowflake here is you.

[The Grene Knyght]

Ireland is falling as one of thr last bastions of truly Christian law and moral decency. This is a great shame.

Why are they doing it?

If Ireland is Catholic, people should accept it. If I am not allowed to insult Islam in Saudi Arabia (such a law is perfectly fine, because Islam is the dominant and historic religion of that country), I should not be allowed to insult Christianity in Ireland, either (such a law is also perfectly fine). Or in Italy. Or in Germany. Or in Russia. Or in the USA.

Governments giving in to the demands of few SJW snowflakes make me sick.

Ireland, stop the referendum. And revoke the abortion one (because you legalized child murder).

As always, it’s not a minority giving in to a majority whose feelings it hurt but a majority giving in to a minority whose feelings it hurt.

Leftism will never take us anywhere but Hell.

Wouldn't share that opinion with anyone from Ireland if I were you. People hate condescending foreigners with no understanding of the country telling them how to vote and how to feel, and trying to meddle in elections. In fact, I don't think that that was an insignificant factor in the last referendum.

[A m e n r i a]

Ireland is falling as one of thr last bastions of truly Christian law and moral decency. This is a great shame.

Why are they doing it?

If Ireland is Catholic, people should accept it. If I am not allowed to insult Islam in Saudi Arabia (such a law is perfectly fine, because Islam is the dominant and historic religion of that country), I should not be allowed to insult Christianity in Ireland, either (such a law is also perfectly fine). Or in Italy. Or in Germany. Or in Russia. Or in the USA.

Governments giving in to the demands of few SJW snowflakes make me sick.

Ireland, stop the referendum. And revoke the abortion one (because you legalized child murder).

As always, it’s not a minority giving in to a majority whose feelings it hurt but a majority giving in to a minority whose feelings it hurt.

Leftism will never take us anywhere but Hell.

I disagree with your last bit, though I agree with the rest of your post. Leftism? Take us to Hell? Both Christianity and Islam teaches charity, helping the poor, abandoning greed and avarice while sharing what we have to those less fortunate. Leftism is good, mate.

[Medwedian Democratic Federation]

Ireland is falling as one of thr last bastions of truly Christian law and moral decency. This is a great shame.

Why are they doing it?

If Ireland is Catholic, people should accept it. If I am not allowed to insult Islam in Saudi Arabia (such a law is perfectly fine, because Islam is the dominant and historic religion of that country), I should not be allowed to insult Christianity in Ireland, either (such a law is also perfectly fine). Or in Italy. Or in Germany. Or in Russia. Or in the USA.

Governments giving in to the demands of few SJW snowflakes make me sick.

Ireland, stop the referendum. And revoke the abortion one (because you legalized child murder).

As always, it’s not a minority giving in to a majority whose feelings it hurt but a majority giving in to a minority whose feelings it hurt.

Leftism will never take us anywhere but Hell.

Wouldn't share that opinion with anyone from Ireland if I were you. People hate condescending foreigners with no understanding of the country telling them how to vote and how to feel, and trying to meddle in elections. In fact, I don't think that that was an insignificant factor in the last referendum.

The mainstream media/government consortium is fighting hard against Christianity in their Agenda 2030/New World Order plan. Look at all the BS in the media defacing Christianity, at all these subliminal messages in movies.

If nothing is done now, you will find yourself celebrating a satanic mass with child sacrifice this day in twenty years.

[Dahon]

If blasphemy is illegal in Christianity and/or Catholicism, then this law should stay in place and should be enforced on Christians/Catholics.

It is not the business of the state to inquire into the opinions of persons upon something that which may or may not exist.

[Isilanka]

I feel like many people here are under the impression that authorizing blasphemy enables people to freely insult the Church or any other religion/religious institutions.
Erm, hate speech and defamation laws still exist, y'know. Authorizing blasphemy doesn't give people free reign to insult you or your religion. It just prevents them from being charged for criticizing or makig fun of it, which is entirely different.