Who wants Ireland to become Saudi Arabia again? (Not me.)
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by Dahon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:19 pm
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:23 pm
by Thermodolia » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:25 pm
by Dahon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:47 pm
by Geneviev » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:48 pm
by Minzerland II » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:52 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hakons wrote:
I'm going off the referendum that outlawed abortion in the 80s. If you want, these latest amendments would horrify almost every Irishman before the 70s.
When someone calls a law "outdated," that's a very good indication that their ancestors would disagree, hence the spitting on graves comment. For over a thousand years the Irish have respected God in their laws, but the secularists are putting an end to that.
You can be a catholic and a secularist, and you can still be a catholic, support getting rid of a stupid law such as this, and respect your god in the process. Ireland is a secular country and has been for a long time and most people are still catholic and will continue to still be catholic after this.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Major-Tom » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:52 pm
by Dahon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:52 pm
by Aggicificicerous » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:01 pm
by Dahon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:01 pm
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:03 pm
by Geneviev » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:19 pm
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Geneviev wrote:Except they would be.
They really wouldn’t be. Most people probably don’t want to live under a totalitarian dictatorship enforcing its religious values on them.Geneviev wrote:Most religions have laws that should be enforced so that people follow whatever religion they should follow.
People generally have the choice over whether or not they follow a religion, and there’s nothing wrong with having that choice.Geneviev wrote:The problem is that a lot of people don't follow their religion.
So?
by Genivaria » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:23 pm
Geneviev wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:They really wouldn’t be. Most people probably don’t want to live under a totalitarian dictatorship enforcing its religious values on them.
People generally have the choice over whether or not they follow a religion, and there’s nothing wrong with having that choice.
So?
1. It wouldn't be forcing its religious values on them. It would be helping people follow their own religion.
2. The choice still exists but if someone wants to follow s religion they have to actually follow it.
3. So they should actually follow the religion.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:26 pm
Geneviev wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:They really wouldn’t be. Most people probably don’t want to live under a totalitarian dictatorship enforcing its religious values on them.
People generally have the choice over whether or not they follow a religion, and there’s nothing wrong with having that choice.
So?
1. It wouldn't be forcing its religious values on them. It would be helping people follow their own religion.
2. The choice still exists but if someone wants to follow s religion they have to actually follow it.
3. So they should actually follow the religion.
by Geneviev » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:26 pm
Genivaria wrote:Geneviev wrote:1. It wouldn't be forcing its religious values on them. It would be helping people follow their own religion.
2. The choice still exists but if someone wants to follow s religion they have to actually follow it.
3. So they should actually follow the religion.
So are we back to this oversimplification with labels now?
So which version of Christianity shall you be forcing on people against their will?
by Aggicificicerous » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:30 pm
by Dahon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:37 pm
by Aggicificicerous » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:39 pm
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:32 am
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