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Who would you like to see as President of Ireland, 2018-2025?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:16 pm

Casey, Peter - Independent
1
2%
Duffy, Gavin - Independent
3
6%
Freeman, Joan - Independent
4
8%
Gallagher, Seán - Independent
2
4%
Higgins, Michael D. - Independent
26
51%
Ní Riada, Liadh - Sinn Féin
15
29%
 
Total votes : 51

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Just noticed the debate is on tonight at 10 on the channel I refuse to refer to as anything other than TV3

https://www.virginmediatelevision.ie/pl ... media-one/

Where "debate" means "take turns hammering Casey over how he hates Travellers".

"Hmmm, what can i do to make myself the punching bag of literally everyone in the debate?"
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Where "debate" means "take turns hammering Casey over how he hates Travellers".

"Hmmm, what can i do to make myself the punching bag of literally everyone in the debate?"

Maybe he figured he couldn't lose anything from already being last in the polls.


Or maybe he's just a bollocks.
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:31 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:"Hmmm, what can i do to make myself the punching bag of literally everyone in the debate?"

Maybe he figured he couldn't lose anything from already being last in the polls.


Or maybe he's just a bollocks.

I really do think this whole thing is a last ditch publicity stunt.
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Western-Ukraine
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:02 pm

Who is the most right-wing candidate? That's who I'd go for. All that matters is the big picture.
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:21 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:Who is the most right-wing candidate? That's who I'd go for. All that matters is the big picture.

The only person with any chance of winning is a self-proclaimed socialist. Ireland doesn't really have any right-wing party of any note at all, unless you'd count neoliberalism as right wing (which, in fairness, many would).
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:27 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Maybe he figured he couldn't lose anything from already being last in the polls.


Or maybe he's just a bollocks.

I really do think this whole thing is a last ditch publicity stunt.

He's certainly winning some support.
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:04 pm

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Socialist Women wrote:Part of the reason you're an anarchist is because you ate too much expired food
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2016: x=-8.88,y=-9.54
2017: x=-9.63,y=-9.90
2018: x=-9.88,y=-9.23
2019: x=-10.0,y=-9.90
2020: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
2021: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
     
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
You realise there is a succession protocol for the death of a monarch, right? Oldest child or closest relative and all.

And neither the Union, nor the Commonwealth is going to disintegrate because the monarch dies.

Australia is going to be a republic. Canada will do the same eventually. The only reason why Australia hasn’t become a republic is because Liz is still the monarch. Once chuck is in Australia is going to give the UK the finger


>>the UK is going to die because ice americans will no longer have portraits of the queen

sounds reasonable
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:18 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:Who is the most right-wing candidate? That's who I'd go for. All that matters is the big picture.


Ireland is one of the "lost" states, they have no such thing. In their defence they're too small to be relevant or susceptible to being largely hurt.
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:52 pm

Some great live commentary on the subreddit.
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Socialist Women wrote:Part of the reason you're an anarchist is because you ate too much expired food
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Old Tyrannia wrote:Bold words from the self-declared Leninist
Currently
Reading
2015: x=-8.75,y=-6.56
2016: x=-8.88,y=-9.54
2017: x=-9.63,y=-9.90
2018: x=-9.88,y=-9.23
2019: x=-10.0,y=-9.90
2020: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
2021: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
     
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:01 pm

Pat Kenny encouraging the president to commit crimes. I love it.
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Socialist Women wrote:Part of the reason you're an anarchist is because you ate too much expired food
Claorica wrote:Oh look, an antifa ancom being smartaleck
Old Tyrannia wrote:Bold words from the self-declared Leninist
Currently
Reading
2015: x=-8.75,y=-6.56
2016: x=-8.88,y=-9.54
2017: x=-9.63,y=-9.90
2018: x=-9.88,y=-9.23
2019: x=-10.0,y=-9.90
2020: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
2021: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
     
PRO: Socialism, Communism, Internationalism, Revolution, Leninism.
NEUTRAL: Anarchism, Marxism-Leninism.
ANTI: Capitalism, Liberalism, Nationalism, Fascists, Hyper-Sectarian Leftists.
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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:21 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:Who is the most right-wing candidate? That's who I'd go for. All that matters is the big picture.


Ireland is one of the "lost" states, they have no such thing. In their defence they're too small to be relevant or susceptible to being largely hurt.


Great satire, chief.

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Trumptonium1
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:16 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ireland is one of the "lost" states, they have no such thing. In their defence they're too small to be relevant or susceptible to being largely hurt.


Great satire, chief.


This is a strictly Real News zone. If you'd like alternative facts I recommend CNN or listening to Trudeau.
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Dahon
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Postby Dahon » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:28 pm

Hooray for unTrumpland! (Callooh! Callay!)

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:Who is the most right-wing candidate? That's who I'd go for. All that matters is the big picture.


Ireland is one of the "lost" states, they have no such thing. In their defence they're too small to be relevant or susceptible to being largely hurt.


When your best shot is a piss-poor passive-aggressive slur at Leo Varadkar...
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:35 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:Who is the most right-wing candidate? That's who I'd go for. All that matters is the big picture.

The only person with any chance of winning is a self-proclaimed socialist. Ireland doesn't really have any right-wing party of any note at all, unless you'd count neoliberalism as right wing (which, in fairness, many would).


Fine Gael used to be right-wing, but now the main right wing parties would be Renua Ireland and Human Dignity Alliance.

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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:43 pm

Ifreann wrote:He has two very good doggos.

That's all a country needs, really: a leader with a good boi.

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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:38 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Great satire, chief.


This is a strictly Real News zone. If you'd like alternative facts I recommend CNN or listening to Trudeau.


I'm more of a Chretien man, myself.

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Trumptonium1
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:37 am

Dahon wrote:Hooray for unTrumpland! (Callooh! Callay!)

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ireland is one of the "lost" states, they have no such thing. In their defence they're too small to be relevant or susceptible to being largely hurt.


When your best shot is a piss-poor passive-aggressive slur at Leo Varadkar...


The irony of you of all people saying my post is passive-aggressive.

But how you got Varadkar out of that is a mystery.

Major-Tom wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
This is a strictly Real News zone. If you'd like alternative facts I recommend CNN or listening to Trudeau.


I'm more of a Chretien man, myself.


You always find new ways to disappoint.
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Dahon
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Postby Dahon » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:51 am

Oh, Tony, I reflect on the past, it's what I do. Specifically this past:

Trumptonium1 wrote:"Varadkar" ripping Ireland's national identity apart one by one I see.


Your thing, yo.
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:09 am

So one thing Pat Kenny brought up in the debate last night was whether or not a president should engage in protest, in civil disobedience, and in illegal activities. He asked which of the candidates had been involved in the recent protests, and noted that Michael D had been absent, for example.
So I suppose I have three main questions:
1. In a strictly hypothetical sense, should the president of Ireland involve themself in protests, such as marching on the street in mass movements with other protestors.
2. Again in a hypothetical sense, should the president of Ireland engage in civil disobedience, including illegal acts, which they are constitutionally protected to do.
3. Should the president of Ireland involve themself in the occupation of private property alongside other activists, in movements like Take Back the City, such as the occupation of 34 Frederick Street, in order to highlight the housing crisis, despite the fact that this would be illegal.

Obviously, my answer to all the above is an unequivocal 'yes,' but I'm interested in what other people have to say.
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2016: x=-8.88,y=-9.54
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2019: x=-10.0,y=-9.90
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2021: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
     
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Trumptonium1
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:12 am

Dahon wrote:Oh, Tony, I reflect on the past, it's what I do. Specifically this past:

Trumptonium1 wrote:"Varadkar" ripping Ireland's national identity apart one by one I see.


Your thing, yo.


So how did you get Varadkar out of the initial post you quoted?
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:47 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Dahon wrote:Hooray for unTrumpland! (Callooh! Callay!)



When your best shot is a piss-poor passive-aggressive slur at Leo Varadkar...


The irony of you of all people saying my post is passive-aggressive.

But how you got Varadkar out of that is a mystery.

Major-Tom wrote:
I'm more of a Chretien man, myself.


You always find new ways to disappoint.


My ex said the same thing.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:23 am

It's looking increasingly like Peter Casey is going to drop out of the race following incessant criticism over his remarks about Travellers.
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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:59 am

Prime Time debate tonight. Anyone else tuning in?
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Socialist Women wrote:Part of the reason you're an anarchist is because you ate too much expired food
Claorica wrote:Oh look, an antifa ancom being smartaleck
Old Tyrannia wrote:Bold words from the self-declared Leninist
Currently
Reading
2015: x=-8.75,y=-6.56
2016: x=-8.88,y=-9.54
2017: x=-9.63,y=-9.90
2018: x=-9.88,y=-9.23
2019: x=-10.0,y=-9.90
2020: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
2021: x=-10.0,y=-10.0
     
PRO: Socialism, Communism, Internationalism, Revolution, Leninism.
NEUTRAL: Anarchism, Marxism-Leninism.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:01 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:Prime Time debate tonight. Anyone else tuning in?

Unless someone tweets in a story about Michael D. picking up envelops of cash I can't see it making much difference.
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