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Who would you like to see as President of Ireland, 2018-2025?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:16 pm

Casey, Peter - Independent
1
2%
Duffy, Gavin - Independent
3
6%
Freeman, Joan - Independent
4
8%
Gallagher, Seán - Independent
2
4%
Higgins, Michael D. - Independent
26
51%
Ní Riada, Liadh - Sinn Féin
15
29%
 
Total votes : 51

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:16 pm

With the nomination period closed as of yesterday, I figure now is a good time for a thread on the Irish Presidential election. And before I start I'd like to take a moment to allow people to be jealous that our whole presidential election season, from nomination to vote, will only cover two months. Not two years. Two months.

Obligatory patriotic bragging aside, here's the basics. The President of Ireland(Uachtarán na hÉireann) is not the head of government or chief of the executive, or any kind of powerful political position. It's largely a ceremonial role, and the President's powers are mostly exercised only on the advice of the government. The President cannot refuse to sign a bill, but can refer a bill to the people, to pass it or not by referendum, or refer it to the Supreme Court to test its constitutionality. In the event that the Taoiseach(PM) loses the support of the majority of the Dáil they can request that the President dissolve it, a request that the President can refuse, preventing a general election and forcing the Taoiseach to resign. The President is the head of state and Supreme Commander of the Defence Forces. The Presidential term is seven years, and a person can serve two terms.

The President is elected by the same "proportional representation by single transferable vote" method our other elections use, but when there's only one winner that's just instant-runoff voting. To get on the ballot one must be nominated either by a number of city or county councils or by members of parliament, and the sitting president may nominate themselves. The election will be on the 26th of October. There's a campaign spending limit of €750,000, of which €200,000 may be reimbursed for candidates earning over 12.5% of the vote.


The candidates are:

Michael D. Higgins - President of Ireland, Independent, Self-nominated
Michael D., affectionately known as Miggledy to some, is a statesman, poet, and possibly a hobbit. He served in both houses of the Irish parliament as a member of the Labour Party. He has presided over the historic legalisation by referendum of both same-sex marriage and abortion. He paid the first ever state visit by a President of Ireland to the United Kingdom. While in the Dáil he scrapped censorship laws and created an Irish language TV channel, and opposed the ban on abortion. During the 2011 campaign he helped rival candidate David Norris get on the ballot in the interests of democracy. He speaks Irish and Spanish. He has two very good doggos. The latest polls show him with a commanding lead of 67%, and if I'm not back here in a month telling you that he's been re-elected then I will be in a state of massive shock.

The Dragons - Dragon's Den is a reality TV format in which venture capitalists have ordinary people sell their dreams for the chance to further enrich the already wealthy "dragons". It sets out clearly for the public that if they wish to pursue success in capitalism they will first have to persuade ancient fire-breathing lizards to part with a small fraction of their hoarded gold in exchange for promises of many times more gold in return. Known as "Shark Tank" in the US.

Seán Gallagher - Businessman, Independent, Council nominations
Gallagher, in addition to being a dragon and businessman, was a candidate for the Presidency in 2011 and came in second, with 630,000 votes in the final count to Michael D.'s 1,007,000. While ostensibly independent, Gallagher has close ties with Fianna Fáil, which has not been to his benefit when his business dealings and appointments to State Boards came under scrutiny. Jobs for the boys and that. He shot himself in the foot during a television debate when he struggled to deny claims that he had received a cheque from a convicted criminal and fuel smuggler following a Fianna Fáil fundraiser, with his comments about having no recollection about receiving any envelopes coming off very badly. He did successfully make a complaint to the Broadcasting Authority about unfair treatment regarding having accusations put to him from an anonymous and unverified tweet. Gallagher is apparently a 1st dan black belt in judo and karate.

Gavin Duffy - Businessman, Independent, Council nominations
Dragon the second, Duffy has been a businessman and entrepreneur since becoming a shareholder of a small radio station when he was 18. He's worked as an advisor to both Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael. A supporter of hunting, Duffy has previously been chairperson of the Hunting Association of Ireland and has held events supporting hunting in opposition to animal rights activists.

Peter Casey - Businessman, Independent, Council nominations
Dragon the third, Casey...em...does business? He's previously expressed some political ambitions but has never held office. His wife and children live in Atlanta, Georgia.


Joan Freeman - Senator, Independent, Council nominations
Freeman, a psychologist and mental health activist, founded Pieta House in 2006, a suicide prevention charity which provides free therapeutic services to thousands of people across Ireland. She has additionally worked to develop Solace House, a similar charity based in New York City. She was nominated to Seanad Éireann in 2016 by Enda Kenny and chairs the Committee on the Future of Mental Healthcare. A practising Catholic, Freeman voted against legalising abortion, but has stated that she would sign legislation resulting from the Yes vote into law if elected. Which, as I've noted above, she doesn't really have any choice about. Freeman stated in a speech that she believes that God miraculously healed her eczema when she visited Knock Shrine as a teenager.

Liadh Ní Riada - MEP for Ireland South, Sinn Féin - GUE/NGL, nominated by Sinn Féin TDs and Senators
Ní Riada, a native Irish speaker, worked as a producer for our Irish language channel, TG4, and served as Sinn Féin's national Irish language officer. In Brussels she sits on the committees for Culture and Education, for Fisheries, and for Budgets. Ní Riada believes that this will be the last Presidential election held in only the 26 counties, believing that the island of Ireland will be unified before the next election in 2025, and there's a strong possibility that her candidacy is meant to serve as a platform for Sinn Féin to advocate for the North to join the Republic following Brexit. Ní Riada has suffered no small share of tragedy in her personal life, losing her father(famed composer of traditional Irish music Seán Ó Riada) at the age of 4, her mother at the age of 10, and her first husband a mere 10 months after they married.

Personally I intend to vote for Michael D. and cannot imagine anything happening in the next month to change my mind. In a time when other heads of state have been bringing ever increasing shame to their nations, Michael D. has been a representative that Ireland can be proud of. I don't think I'm even going to give a preference to any of the other candidates. Certainly I cannot imagine what use we would have for a businessman as our ceremonial head of state.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:20 pm

I cant vote for the presidential election up here in the North (though there is legislation in the works to allow Irish citizens in the North to vote in them in the future), and i expect Higgins to win by a sizeable margin.
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Postby Chestaan » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:35 pm

I've never been a fan of our Presidential election, but this year it is a complete farce with what seems like every single member of Dragon's Den putting themselves forward.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:42 pm

Chestaan wrote:I've never been a fan of our Presidential election, but this year it is a complete farce with what seems like every single member of Dragon's Den putting themselves forward.

Could we not at least have gotten Dana in or something? Or maybe we could count the two boys in Versatile as one person and have them run.
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Postby Gallade » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:45 pm

If I still had the vote I'd be voting for Higgins, and I've yet to talk to anybody back home who have even noticed the other candidates beyond the standard "jaysus, are they really putting up campaign signs".

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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:51 pm

Shouldn't Ireland have learned the dangers of electing reality show personalities to the Presidency from the United States?
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Postby Chestaan » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Chestaan wrote:I've never been a fan of our Presidential election, but this year it is a complete farce with what seems like every single member of Dragon's Den putting themselves forward.

Could we not at least have gotten Dana in or something? Or maybe we could count the two boys in Versatile as one person and have them run.


Sure we'll give Jedward a go while we're at it :P I was actually pretty surprised not to see Dana coming forward, maybe she's finally realised nobody wants her.

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This makes me happy that the Irish President is so powerless!
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Postby Parsleyprince » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:47 pm

Not to mention he got a two-armed hug from Shane MacGowan, which is more than I'm guessing anyone has gotten from him lately

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Postby Maltropia » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:25 am

I must say it was a shock to me to see Liadh blonde on her campaign posters. She's definitely still brunette (or whatever shade that is) in the outdated poster in the dodgy pub's window out in Ardmore.
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Postby Chestaan » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:17 am

Maltropia wrote:I must say it was a shock to me to see Liadh blonde on her campaign posters. She's definitely still brunette (or whatever shade that is) in the outdated poster in the dodgy pub's window out in Ardmore.


Wasn't she possibly an anti-vaxxer at one point?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:31 am

Ahead of the first televised debate featuring all six candidates, Michael D. still has a commanding lead in the polls.

Michael D Higgins 66%
Seán Gallagher 12%
Liadh Ní Riada 11%
Joan Freeman 5%
Gavin Duffy 4%
Peter Casey 2%

Peter Casey, presumably tired of people having nothing to say about him, has decided to appeal to the anti-Traveller voters.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:36 am

If I where Irish I would vote for Liadh Ní Riada.
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Postby Omega State » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:39 am

i support Michael D. Higgins
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:40 am

Ardoki wrote:I like the man with the dogs.

They're good dogs.
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Thermodolia wrote:If I where Irish I would vote for Liadh Ní Riada.

Reasons?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:24 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If I where Irish I would vote for Liadh Ní Riada.

Reasons?

Tenner says United Ireland.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If I where Irish I would vote for Liadh Ní Riada.

Reasons?

United Éire. And I like what Sinn Féin stands for
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Thermodolia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Reasons?

United Éire.

Not going to happen.

Thermodolia wrote:And I like what Sinn Féin stands for

Its links to the IRA?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:00 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Reasons?

United Éire. And I like what Sinn Féin stands for

Ní Riada in the Áras wouldn't especially help Sinn Féin accomplish any of their political goals.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:United Éire.

Not going to happen.

A lot of people said that an independent Éire wouldn’t happen yet it did.

Thermodolia wrote:And I like what Sinn Féin stands for

Its links to the IRA?

Brave Freedom fighters.
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Thermodolia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Not going to happen.

A lot of people said that an independent Éire wouldn’t happen yet it did.

A completely different kettle of fish.

Thermodolia wrote:
Its links to the IRA?

Brave Freedom fighters.

Planting bombs that target civilians is terrorism.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Not going to happen.

A lot of people said that an independent Éire wouldn’t happen yet it did.

Its links to the IRA?

Brave Freedom fighters.

They were also Terrorists.

They are often one and the same.
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