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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:11 pm

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New haven america wrote:It's not in the Bible then it's against God's natural order, so it's evil.

That is not how it works.

History tells me otherwise.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:13 pm

New haven america wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That is not how it works.

History tells me otherwise.

If the Bible doesn't say anything for or against something (like toilet paper) you have to decide what God would think based on what you know. He wouldn't have any problem with toilet paper based on the idea of uncleanliness.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:14 pm

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New haven america wrote:History tells me otherwise.

If the Bible doesn't say anything for or against something (like toilet paper) you have to decide what God would think based on what you know.

And I think God is against toilet paper.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:21 pm

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Scomagia wrote:It really isn't unless she's low functioning and he's high functioning. Why shouldn't he pursue someone on his end of the spectrum?


Why would anyone want a spouse with common issues and outlooks that you can help deal with together. :)


Because it's a recipe for guaranteed failure?
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
Geneviev wrote:If the Bible doesn't say anything for or against something (like toilet paper) you have to decide what God would think based on what you know.

And I think God is against toilet paper.

Then that's your opinion and it's probably wrong.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:23 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:
Why would anyone want a spouse with common issues and outlooks that you can help deal with together. :)


Because it's a recipe for guaranteed failure?


Honestly? It depends on the people's personalities much more than the apparent issues on paper.

Many people have the strength to power thru their problems with company. Others don't.

I wouldn't say two people with issues are a recipe for failure.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:29 pm

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Telconi wrote:You're probably just mad because Tinder keep's matching you with black girls.


Well, if that was the case- it'd be a worse insult than trying to pair me with an Asian, just as that is worse than trying to pair me with a Mestizo, which is worse than pairing with a native American (for me as a White male, anyways). There exists a racial hierarchy that I observe. Impregnating a Black woman is close to the worst possible thing I could do so far as reproduction goes. Far worse than getting a Filipina bride.

Any White phenotype I could pass on would be completely buried by Black characteristics. The darker the maternal side, the more generations of breeding with lighter individuals it'd take to even get close to the phenotype I have. It is quite a terrible fate for your family line if it is majority White.

So shouldn't you be wanting to breed with a mestiza, as that can whiten her line without seriously compromising the whiteness of your offspring?
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:30 pm

Geneviev wrote:
New haven america wrote:And I think God is against toilet paper.

Then that's your opinion and it's probably wrong.

And what makes your opinion right?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:35 pm

Geneviev wrote:
New haven america wrote:And I think God is against toilet paper.

Then that's your opinion and it's probably wrong.

You're opinion on this matter is no more correct than mine is.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:36 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Because it's a recipe for guaranteed failure?


Honestly? It depends on the people's personalities much more than the apparent issues on paper.

Many people have the strength to power thru their problems with company. Others don't.

I wouldn't say two people with issues are a recipe for failure.


Autism isn't "issues", it's a severe inhibitor regarding interpersonal relationships.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:38 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Honestly? It depends on the people's personalities much more than the apparent issues on paper.

Many people have the strength to power thru their problems with company. Others don't.

I wouldn't say two people with issues are a recipe for failure.


Autism isn't "issues", it's a severe inhibitor regarding interpersonal relationships.

It’s a varying level of inhibitors. Some cases are severe, others not quite as much.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:39 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Honestly? It depends on the people's personalities much more than the apparent issues on paper.

Many people have the strength to power thru their problems with company. Others don't.

I wouldn't say two people with issues are a recipe for failure.


Autism isn't "issues", it's a severe inhibitor regarding interpersonal relationships.

And there are several people with autism that have found successful and fulfilling relationships.

You think you know about stuff like this when you really don't.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:42 pm

New haven america wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Autism isn't "issues", it's a severe inhibitor regarding interpersonal relationships.

And there are several people with autism that have found successful and fulfilling relationships.

You think you know about stuff like this when you really don't.


I mean he is right, but only at a "on paper" point of view.

On paper yes, it sounds hella bad, but in reality it just really depends a lot.

For instance, on paper yes, the odds of a fulfilling relationship sounds awful, but on the field this relationship stuff isn't quite as dire as it looks.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:01 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
New haven america wrote:Do we have the original Bible that God transcribed?

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Well played doggo, well played.
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:05 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Why would anyone want a spouse with common issues and outlooks that you can help deal with together. :)


Because it's a recipe for guaranteed failure?

How is it a recipe for guarantee failure? Explain yourself.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:05 pm

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:06 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No it does not. Somewhere between seven and eight thousand years ago, according to the most reliable estimates, Adam and Eve were cursed to, for Adam:
1) the necessity of work. Hard work would be his lot; he would have to labor in the fields.
2) rebelliousness of those around him- see Cain.
for Eve:
1) dominance by, and dependence on, her husband.
2) labor pains.
for both:
1) diseases, poisons, and such. Even thistles did not exist in the world before the fall, according to the most learned experts.
2) death.
3) life in sin, and diminished capabilities.

So you're asserting as historical fact either that humanity began 7 or 8 thousand years ago, or that hunter-gatherer women don't have labor pains.


If I remember my theology right. Labor pains were gods punishment to eve for the Apple. Which was a major backfire on his part because men got stuck dealing with PMS.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:07 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Geneviev wrote:If a man doesn't intend to be head of the household the whole idea doesn't work anymore, then.

Well, if you intend to abandon the order established by God, you might as well just get a hooker instead of agonizing about dating on the internet.

Aren't we all God's children? That's what I learned as an agnostic in Catholic school.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:21 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Because it's a recipe for guaranteed failure?


Honestly? It depends on the people's personalities much more than the apparent issues on paper.

Many people have the strength to power thru their problems with company. Others don't.

I wouldn't say two people with issues are a recipe for failure.


Everybody has issues. Love is two neurotics who find each other.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:10 pm

New haven america wrote:You think you know about stuff like this when you really don't.


I do know this stuff. I do know about this. Oddly enough, being on the spectrum and experiencing issues with interpersonal relationships (including friendships) gives someone an insight into how they work.

Scomagia wrote:How is it a recipe for guarantee failure? Explain yourself.


People with high-functioning autism have difficulties with a number of things that are essential in relationships, namely things like empathy, reading body language, communication, and emotional intelligence. These can make relationships difficult with people who don't have high-functioning autism, and having a desire for such things like emotional support and understanding but not receiving it from their partner (as is expected in relationships) will often lead to problems, which cannot always be resolved.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I mean he is right, but only at a "on paper" point of view.

On paper yes, it sounds hella bad, but in reality it just really depends a lot.

For instance, on paper yes, the odds of a fulfilling relationship sounds awful, but on the field this relationship stuff isn't quite as dire as it looks.


On paper statistics are studies from in the field with people who are and are not in relationships. There's a reason why people studying how it affects relationships point out the difficulties and the odds involved.
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Postby Myrensis » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:18 am

Diopolis wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:So you're asserting as historical fact either that humanity began 7 or 8 thousand years ago, or that hunter-gatherer women don't have labor pains.

I am asserting as historical fact that humanity is perhaps 7,500 years old; certainly not much older than 8,000 years.


Out of curiosity, did Cain have some weird polyamorous relationship where he and Adam took turns having sex with Eve and making babies, or did he have to wait around in Nod until one of his baby sisters was old enough to breed?

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Postby Albrenia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:53 am

Humanity in its current form is like, 100,000 years old or so, if I recall my schooling correctly. Our recent ancestors go back a lot further, and our distant ones further still.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:07 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Honestly i like aggressive women, i find it a turn on.

That said, as long as when the girl says no, you have to respect it. Other than that, most people find confidence is sexy, you want a woman you have to put it out there that you deserve her, yes you will get rejected, but so what.


I like strong aggressive women as well, but not exclusively. I like demure, passive ones as well.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:22 am

Diopolis wrote:So shouldn't you be wanting to breed with a mestiza, as that can whiten her line without seriously compromising the whiteness of your offspring?


Normally, a Mestiza would be Whiter than a native American would be. But in the US anyways, native Americans have been destroyed by White people to enough of an extent, that most native Americans will have a not insignificant amount of European ancestry. The ones that abandoned reservations and assimilated fully, even more so.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:01 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Why would anyone want a spouse with common issues and outlooks that you can help deal with together. :)


Because it's a recipe for guaranteed failure?

According to you all recipes are for guaranteed failure, In spite of the facts and evidence millions of people stay married for years.
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