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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:53 pm

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The South Falls wrote:I meant pre agriculture.

In that case they didn't see family as we do now anyways, so it can't really be compared. The father wasn't head of the family because families were different.

I'm not convinced you're an expert on hunter gatherers, since you just a moment ago said that they have no social order, and now assert they do. But even if this were true, you're moving the goalposts. If "different" families are what hunter-gatherers practice, then modern families - not just patriarchy - are unnatural.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:53 pm

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Dogmeat wrote:So you're asserting as historical fact either that humanity began 7 or 8 thousand years ago, or that hunter-gatherer women don't have labor pains.

I am asserting as historical fact that humanity is perhaps 7,500 years old; certainly not much older than 8,000 years.

You are wrong, period. Modern humanity is ~40,000 years old.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:54 pm

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Diopolis wrote:I am asserting as historical fact that humanity is perhaps 7,500 years old; certainly not much older than 8,000 years.

You are wrong.

It is difficult in the extreme to biblically justify humanity being older that I have mentioned(although it doesn't say anything about the age of the earth prior to the creation of man).
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:57 pm

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Dogmeat wrote:You are wrong.

It is difficult in the extreme to biblically justify humanity being older that I have mentioned(although it doesn't say anything about the age of the earth prior to the creation of man).

Then the Bible is wrong. There are human skeletons in Mexico and monuments in Turkey older than that.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:59 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:You are wrong.

It is difficult in the extreme to biblically justify humanity being older that I have mentioned(although it doesn't say anything about the age of the earth prior to the creation of man).

The Earth is 4.6 billion years old, it's broken up into 4 major time periods (Precambrian, Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and Cenozoic), with modern humanity evolving in the modern Cenozoic Era (Or ~40,000 years ago).
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Postby The South Falls » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Geneviev wrote:In that case they didn't see family as we do now anyways, so it can't really be compared. The father wasn't head of the family because families were different.

I'm not convinced you're an expert on hunter gatherers, since you just a moment ago said that they have no social order, and now assert they do. But even if this were true, you're moving the goalposts. If "different" families are what hunter-gatherers practice, then modern families - not just patriarchy - are unnatural.

Get out of your house. That's unnatural.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:01 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Diopolis wrote:It is difficult in the extreme to biblically justify humanity being older that I have mentioned(although it doesn't say anything about the age of the earth prior to the creation of man).

Then the Bible is wrong. There are human skeletons in Mexico and monuments in Turkey older than that.

There's evidence of human writing that could be older than 8,000 years.
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:03 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:I'm not convinced you're an expert on hunter gatherers, since you just a moment ago said that they have no social order, and now assert they do. But even if this were true, you're moving the goalposts. If "different" families are what hunter-gatherers practice, then modern families - not just patriarchy - are unnatural.

Get out of your house. That's unnatural.

Oh, indeed it is. Frankly I don't care much about what's natural. But Geneviev here seems to think it's very important we follow the natural way of things. At least when it comes to imitating bronze-age near-eastern cultures. Probably not so much when it comes to toilet paper and the internet.
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Postby Intelist » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:06 pm

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Postby Intelist » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:07 pm

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You're probably just mad because Tinder keep's matching you with black girls.

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Postby Intelist » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:09 pm

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LMAO the kind of people on Tinder or any other "dating" app are the kind of people you want to avoid. Come to think of it, the vast majority of people on any kind of electronic dating site are the kinds of people you wouldn't want to get intimate with.

While the incels who bitch about them and yet lament on how they never get laid at the same time are much better. :roll:

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:11 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Get out of your house. That's unnatural.

Oh, indeed it is. Frankly I don't care much about what's natural. But Geneviev here seems to think it's very important we follow the natural way of things. At least when it comes to imitating bronze-age near-eastern cultures. Probably not so much when it comes to toilet paper and the internet.

What God intended as natural. He doesn't, as far as I know, have any problem with toilet paper.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:14 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Oh, indeed it is. Frankly I don't care much about what's natural. But Geneviev here seems to think it's very important we follow the natural way of things. At least when it comes to imitating bronze-age near-eastern cultures. Probably not so much when it comes to toilet paper and the internet.

What God intended as natural. He doesn't, as far as I know, have any problem with toilet paper.

And who are you to decide what god deems natural?
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:21 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Geneviev wrote:What God intended as natural. He doesn't, as far as I know, have any problem with toilet paper.

And who are you to decide what god deems natural?

It's in the Bible.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:23 pm

Geneviev wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:And who are you to decide what god deems natural?

It's in the Bible.

So is accounts of people turning into salt pillars.
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Postby Dogmeat » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:26 pm

Geneviev wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:And who are you to decide what god deems natural?

It's in the Bible.

Toilet paper is in the Bible?

I mean... I've always suspected...
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:30 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It's in the Bible.

So is accounts of people turning into salt pillars.

So?

Dogmeat wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It's in the Bible.

Toilet paper is in the Bible?

I mean... I've always suspected...

Toilet paper is not in the Bible.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:39 pm

Telconi wrote:You're probably just mad because Tinder keep's matching you with black girls.


Well, if that was the case- it'd be a worse insult than trying to pair me with an Asian, just as that is worse than trying to pair me with a Mestizo, which is worse than pairing with a native American (for me as a White male, anyways). There exists a racial hierarchy that I observe. Impregnating a Black woman is close to the worst possible thing I could do so far as reproduction goes. Far worse than getting a Filipina bride.

Any White phenotype I could pass on would be completely buried by Black characteristics. The darker the maternal side, the more generations of breeding with lighter individuals it'd take to even get close to the phenotype I have. It is quite a terrible fate for your family line if it is majority White.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:41 pm

Geneviev wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:So is accounts of people turning into salt pillars.

So?

Dogmeat wrote:Toilet paper is in the Bible?

I mean... I've always suspected...

Toilet paper is not in the Bible.

Then it's not part of the natural order.

Toilet Paper is the Devil's paper.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:49 pm

New haven america wrote:
Geneviev wrote:So?


Toilet paper is not in the Bible.

Then it's not part of the natural order.

Toilet Paper is the Devil's paper.

You know that's not how it works.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:53 pm

Geneviev wrote:
New haven america wrote:Then it's not part of the natural order.

Toilet Paper is the Devil's paper.

You know that's not how it works.

It's not in the Bible then it's against God's natural order, so it's evil.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:57 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:You are wrong.

It is difficult in the extreme to biblically justify humanity being older that I have mentioned(although it doesn't say anything about the age of the earth prior to the creation of man).

Then the Bible is wrong. There are cave paintings that are far beyond being 8,000 years old.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Geneviev wrote:You know that's not how it works.

It's not in the Bible then it's against God's natural order, so it's evil.

That is not how it works. If the Bible says something against it it's against God's natural order.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Telconi wrote:You're probably just mad because Tinder keep's matching you with black girls.


Well, if that was the case- it'd be a worse insult than trying to pair me with an Asian, just as that is worse than trying to pair me with a Mestizo, which is worse than pairing with a native American (for me as a White male, anyways). There exists a racial hierarchy that I observe. Impregnating a Black woman is close to the worst possible thing I could do so far as reproduction goes. Far worse than getting a Filipina bride.

Any White phenotype I could pass on would be completely buried by Black characteristics. The darker the maternal side, the more generations of breeding with lighter individuals it'd take to even get close to the phenotype I have. It is quite a terrible fate for your family line if it is majority White.


Dude, like, just go out with a black girl.

I guarantee you, it's not that bad. You're not gonna go blind if you date her either, so that's a plus.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:11 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Well, if that was the case- it'd be a worse insult than trying to pair me with an Asian, just as that is worse than trying to pair me with a Mestizo, which is worse than pairing with a native American (for me as a White male, anyways). There exists a racial hierarchy that I observe. Impregnating a Black woman is close to the worst possible thing I could do so far as reproduction goes. Far worse than getting a Filipina bride.

Any White phenotype I could pass on would be completely buried by Black characteristics. The darker the maternal side, the more generations of breeding with lighter individuals it'd take to even get close to the phenotype I have. It is quite a terrible fate for your family line if it is majority White.


Dude, like, just go out with a black girl.

I guarantee you, it's not that bad. You're not gonna go blind if you date her either, so that's a plus.

He has no problem going out with black people.

But having kids with black people? No no no, he must preserve the racial purity of the white race and not usurp the reproductive possibility of a black male reproducing with a black woman, or some bullshit like that...
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