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Postby Cedoria » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:23 pm

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That definition includes examples in which demonizing or delegitimizing Israel, or holding it to a double standard not expected of other democratic nations, are deemed anti-Semitic.


What does that even mean.


Whatever groups in favour of Israel decide it means, that's the beauty of it really, the people being criticised get to decide whether their critics ought to be silenced.

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Cedoria wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:
What does that even mean.


Whatever groups in favour of Israel decide it means, that's the beauty of it really, the people being criticised get to decide whether their critics ought to be silenced.

Isn't democracy grand? MAGA and all that.

(For those with poor literacy comprehension, the sentiment in the line above was heavily sarcastic).

So are an enemy of democracy?
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Postby Mardla » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:26 pm

Cedoria wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:
What does that even mean.


Whatever groups in favour of Israel decide it means, that's the beauty of it really, the people being criticised get to decide whether their critics ought to be silenced.

Isn't democracy grand? MAGA and all that.

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Postby Dahon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:58 am

Western-Ukraine wrote:I must be the only one to support it here. In this kind of geopolitical environment we can't afford to have Americans indoctrinated in anti-Israeli dogma. Israel shares American values, unlike any other ME country. And whether or not it is stated, anti-Israeli criticism is mostly inspired by anti-semitism which we don't need.


Presumably you can make the distinction between criticisms of Israeli government policy and plain bigotry, correct?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:19 am

On an amusing note, codifying that criticizing the Israeli government is antisemitism would in effect declare that Israel is in fact a theocracy just like Iran.
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Western-Ukraine wrote:I must be the only one to support it here. In this kind of geopolitical environment we can't afford to have Americans indoctrinated in anti-Israeli dogma. Israel shares American values, unlike any other ME country. And whether or not it is stated, anti-Israeli criticism is mostly inspired by anti-semitism which we don't need.

>Tfw giving a subjugated people rights and criticizing the poor handling of the situation by the Israeli government is anti-semitism
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Western-Ukraine wrote:I must be the only one to support it here. In this kind of geopolitical environment we can't afford to have Americans indoctrinated in anti-Israeli dogma. Israel shares American values, unlike any other ME country. And whether or not it is stated, anti-Israeli criticism is mostly inspired by anti-semitism which we don't need.

>Tfw giving a subjugated people rights and criticizing the poor handling of the situation by the Israeli government is anti-semitism

But don't you know? Israel IS the Jews. Nevermind the Jews that criticise Israel, they're just self hating! /s
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:34 am

United Massachusetts wrote:Israel gets held to a double standard. It has by far the best human rights record of any nation in its region.

So let me get this straight: Abuse people just a little bit less than your neighbors, and no one can ever criticize you without being a genocidal monster?

What do we call a person who thinks that Palestinians aren't people deserving of basic human rights? Is there no term for that anymore?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:11 pm

Alien Space Bats wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Israel gets held to a double standard. It has by far the best human rights record of any nation in its region.

So let me get this straight: Abuse people just a little bit less than your neighbors, and no one can ever criticize you without being a genocidal monster?

What do we call a person who thinks that Palestinians aren't people deserving of basic human rights? Is there no term for that anymore?

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