EU legislators move to punish Hungary

[Dahon]

It definitely didn't abide the Versailles laws tho

Implying the Versailles treaty was justified

> implying Nazism was justified

[Kyrinasaj]

Let's hope the EU explodes

It's a good free trade and possibly military union.

It just needs to get out of politics.

A military union? No thanks. I'd rather have sovereign control of defense forces.

[Kyrinasaj]

Implying the Versailles treaty was justified

> implying Nazism was justified

It was a pretty justifiable reaction to the absolute garbage that was the Versailles treaty

[Exxosia]

Article 2 seems to describe the exact opposite of the EU.

[Ifreann]

Implying the Versailles treaty was justified

> implying Nazism was justified

But the Treaty of Versailles was so mean to poor Germany! Never mind that other Central Powers ceased to exist as nations after the war.

[Petrolheadia]

It's a good free trade and possibly military union.

It just needs to get out of politics.

A military union? No thanks. I'd rather have sovereign control of defense forces.

A single, big army with shared costs would be quite an efficient idea.

[Ifreann]

> implying Nazism was justified

It was a pretty justifiable reaction to the absolute garbage that was the Versailles treaty

"This treaty is bad, imma kill all the Jews!"
Justified.

[Northern Poland]

The EU really needs to let up on Immigrants, Poland has been rejecting them and sorta acting hostile. i got some memes about it in spoilers

The EU SHOULD NOT make members take refugees that might cause crimes. I support taking refugees to a certain extent, but if nations don't want to take them, they can't be forced to.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It was a pretty justifiable reaction to the absolute garbage that was the Versailles treaty

"This treaty is bad, imma kill all the Jews!"
Justified.

More like "this treaty is bad I'm gonna remilitarize and take my stuff back".

Really if the people writing up the treaty in 1918 didn't see that coming they were fucking retarded.

[Kyrinasaj]

> implying Nazism was justified

But the Treaty of Versailles was so mean to poor Germany! Never mind that other Central Powers ceased to exist as nations after the war.

Yea they just uh took most of Germany's military, blamed the war on Germany and all of its colonies to satisfy French imperialism but never mind that,
Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans would've collapsed anyway

[Kyrinasaj]

It was a pretty justifiable reaction to the absolute garbage that was the Versailles treaty

"This treaty is bad, imma kill all the Jews!"
Justified.

Pretty unrelated but okay. More like I'll get revenge against those who wronged my nation and make my nation a powerhouse again.

[Vassenor]

Honestly the conservatives were going to claim victory here no matter what. If the EU had backed off it showed it was weak and easily dominated. By doing this it's showing how evil and oppressive it is.

Not sure what it is about actually following the rules that upsets conservatives so much.

[Tretiy Rim]

The EU really needs to let up on Immigrants, Poland has been rejecting them and sorta acting hostile. i got some memes about it in spoilers

The EU SHOULD NOT make members take refugees that might cause crimes. I support taking refugees to a certain extent, but if nations don't want to take them, they can't be forced to.

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That first one is too smol.

[Dahon]

Let's hope the EU explodes

It's a good free trade and possibly military union.

It just needs to get out of politics.

Then ASEAN with muscle it is -- and to think you'd have learned from us, here in southeast Asia, as we can barely get beyond slick ads, slicker words, and a whole lot of skulduggery.

You should learn from us, not only in how not to build up a nonfunctioning union, but in how not to coddle budding authoritarian regimes, or "backsliding democracies" as David Frum has called them.

That legacy would actually be positive. Learn from us.

[Kyrinasaj]

A military union? No thanks. I'd rather have sovereign control of defense forces.

A single, big army with shared costs would be quite an efficient idea.

Yea, just let a liberal bureaucracy control your defense force, what could possibly go wrong?

[SnowMiser]

*Looks at the thread topic*

[Tretiy Rim]

Honestly the conservatives were going to claim victory here no matter what. If the EU had backed off it showed it was weak and easily dominated. By doing this it's showing how evil and oppressive it is.

Not sure what it is about actually following the rules that upsets conservatives so much.

Not sure what it is about liberals wanting to control other peoples' countries.

[Northern Poland]

The EU really needs to let up on Immigrants, Poland has been rejecting them and sorta acting hostile. i got some memes about it in spoilers

The EU SHOULD NOT make members take refugees that might cause crimes. I support taking refugees to a certain extent, but if nations don't want to take them, they can't be forced to.

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That first one is too smol.

replaced it with a bigger different meme

[Tretiy Rim]

That first one is too smol.

replaced it with a bigger different meme

Much funnier, too.

[Kyrinasaj]

Honestly the conservatives were going to claim victory here no matter what. If the EU had backed off it showed it was weak and easily dominated. By doing this it's showing how evil and oppressive it is.

Not sure what it is about actually following the rules that upsets conservatives so much.

Not sure what it is about liberals wanting to control other peoples' countries.

Not sure what it is about people limiting people to just conservatives and liberals

[Tretiy Rim]

Not sure what it is about liberals wanting to control other peoples' countries.

Not sure what it is about people limiting people to just conservatives and liberals

Most conservatives don't like the idea of enslaving their countries to some regional, continental, or international organization's rules and regulations. At least in my experience.

[Dahon]

Honestly the conservatives were going to claim victory here no matter what. If the EU had backed off it showed it was weak and easily dominated. By doing this it's showing how evil and oppressive it is.

Not sure what it is about actually following the rules that upsets conservatives so much.

Not sure what it is about liberals wanting to control other peoples' countries.

Even by the foreign minister's standards Hungary is culpable of dragging Article 2 to a secluded corner and beating it repeatedly with its bare fists in its desire to keep migrants out and quash off contrariness while doing it.

[Aellex]

It definitely didn't abide the Versailles laws tho

Implying the Versailles treaty was justified

It was way too tame indeed. Was it not for Anglo pusillanimity at the last moment, Germany would have had a fitting punishment for its crimes instead of merely having to repay less than the damages it caused on the western front alone and vacate other nation's land it was occupying.

[Saiwania]

implying Nazism was justified

It was better that Nazism happened in my view, than a timeline where the Communists (KPD) took full control over Germany. Adolf Hitler was seen as a great statesman up until 1938. Nazis created the Autobahn, made the Volkswagen, brought about near 0% unemployment. Nazis were correct (for the most part) in associating Jews with Marxism. Many among the Jewish minority in Germany were early adopters of Bolshevism.

[Ifreann]

"This treaty is bad, imma kill all the Jews!"
Justified.

More like "this treaty is bad I'm gonna remilitarize and take my stuff back".

Really if the people writing up the treaty in 1918 didn't see that coming they were fucking retarded.

"Take my stuff back. And also take other people's stuff. And kill all the Jews."

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But the Treaty of Versailles was so mean to poor Germany! Never mind that other Central Powers ceased to exist as nations after the war.

Yea they just uh took most of Germany's military, blamed the war on Germany and all of its colonies to satisfy French imperialism but never mind that,
Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans would've collapsed anyway

And Germany just had to turn over their gats and marks. Very generous of the Entente when they could have just deleted Germany.

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Honestly the conservatives were going to claim victory here no matter what. If the EU had backed off it showed it was weak and easily dominated. By doing this it's showing how evil and oppressive it is.

Not sure what it is about actually following the rules that upsets conservatives so much.

The rules don't let them build ethnostates.