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23%
Brexit when?
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30%
Welp, time to illegally buy/sell memes now
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26%
Well, actually...
3
2%
Lol they won't ban memes you fucking buffoon its not like it's the end of the world or anything
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:36 am

Also why is everyone acting like this is a done deal when there's still one more vote and a fuckload of negotiation to go through?

Starting to think y'all just like screaming about how the sky is falling.
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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:36 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The meme that was just shared?
What was the political message behind it?

No memes in general. How can we divorce politics from them?

So by "memes are political" you didn't actually mean that memes are political, you were just saying that memes can be used to transmit political ideas?

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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:36 am

United American Commomwealth wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Not an argument.

"All Memes are political"
*Shows a non-poltical meme*
"Not an argument"

So you think that every political message is a coherent argument? That's a little ridiculous isn't it?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:36 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Very easily
Because most of them aren’t political

That's a claim that you aren't proving.

We can literally show you thousands of examples of them not being political and you will just keep sitting here going “Nope” so why should I?
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:36 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It states what the directive is for, so you can calm down.

And I’m against that directive because it’s shit


Several people are, but at least they should know what it is about instead of crying wolf for no fucking reason.
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Postby United American Commomwealth » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:37 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
United American Commomwealth wrote:"All Memes are political"
*Shows a non-poltical meme*
"Not an argument"

So you think that every political message is a coherent argument? That's a little ridiculous isn't it?

You still have yet to prove why a two-legged cat with the OK hand for feet is Political

Or how Shrek is a symbol of the peoples revolution against the onion overlords
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:37 am

Vassenor wrote:Also why is everyone acting like this is a done deal when there's still one more vote and a fuckload of negotiation to go through?

Starting to think y'all just like screaming about how the sky is falling.


I stated that but you know, ''mah memes!!'' There's some voting still to be done, which will happen on January 2019, but yeah, here we are.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:38 am

Correnia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Yes, the EU is going to lose countries fast for sure from a digital content directive. Likely story.

The EU itself wont last forever either. I stand beside my eastern European brothers and sisters.

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Postby Estanglia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:39 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Estanglia wrote:How are memes in general political?

All communication is political. Memes are simply a degenerate form of communication.

Uh... no. Not all communication is political. A conversation about the inner workings of a computer is not political.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:39 am

United American Commomwealth wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:So you think that every political message is a coherent argument? That's a little ridiculous isn't it?

You still have yet to prove why a two-legged cat with the OK hand for feet is Political

Or how Shrek is a symbol of the peoples revolution against the onion overlords

Everything is political these days, especially Shrek.


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Postby United American Commomwealth » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:40 am

Estanglia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:All communication is political. Memes are simply a degenerate form of communication.

Uh... no. Not all communication is political. A conversation about the inner workings of a computer is not political.

Nah, clearly a conversation about ice cream is actually about why the 1% is being oppressed by the working class majority

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Postby Stormwrath » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:40 am

Firaxin wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:No all memes are political, and the sending of messages imparts one with responsibility.

If all memes are political then everything is political and therefore degenerate. Better stop worshipping Jesus, because that might divide people.

Relevant Jesus meme quote: I came not to bring peace but a sword.

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The New California Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:40 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
United American Commomwealth wrote:You still have yet to prove why a two-legged cat with the OK hand for feet is Political

Or how Shrek is a symbol of the peoples revolution against the onion overlords

Everything is political these days, especially Shrek.

Even the doge face is political.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:40 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Knock knock jokes are the same.


Do you know why teenage girls always travel in odd numbered groups?

No why?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Do you know why teenage girls always travel in odd numbered groups?

No why?


Because they can't even.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Estanglia wrote:How are memes in general political?

All communication is political. Memes are simply a degenerate form of communication.

Bakery Hill wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Very easily
Because most of them aren’t political

That's a claim that you aren't proving.

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Postby United American Commomwealth » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Everything is political these days, especially Shrek.

Even the doge face is political.

Wow, much revolution. very democratic, wow
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

I'm just going to point out here that they previously said that memes could be political, which is kind of a fact.
It's pretty stupid, since literally everything can be political, but that's what they said.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also why is everyone acting like this is a done deal when there's still one more vote and a fuckload of negotiation to go through?

Starting to think y'all just like screaming about how the sky is falling.


I stated that but you know, ''mah memes!!'' There's some voting still to be done, which will happen on January 2019, but yeah, here we are.

There’s nothing really to debate otherwise
I stated my genuine thoughts on the matter, and now we wait for it to actually pass.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:No memes in general. How can we divorce politics from them?

So by "memes are political" you didn't actually mean that memes are political, you were just saying that memes can be used to transmit political ideas?

All communication is political.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:I thought picture memes are banned now. *points to thread title*

Only in Europe
In Murica you can meme all day

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:42 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No why?


Because they can't even.

Ha
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Postby United American Commomwealth » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:42 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:So by "memes are political" you didn't actually mean that memes are political, you were just saying that memes can be used to transmit political ideas?

All communication is political.

"Hello, Jimmy!"

"Hey, NO POLITICS IN THIS HOUSE"
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:43 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:So by "memes are political" you didn't actually mean that memes are political, you were just saying that memes can be used to transmit political ideas?

All communication is political.

So by your own argument
Communication is divisive
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:43 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:That's a claim that you aren't proving.

We can literally show you thousands of examples of them not being political and you will just keep sitting here going “Nope” so why should I?

If you don't feel you can or should argue a position, then it is best not to.
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