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Article 13 has passed.

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Brexit when?
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Welp, time to illegally buy/sell memes now
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Well, actually...
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Lol they won't ban memes you fucking buffoon its not like it's the end of the world or anything
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The Batavia
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Article 13 has passed.

Postby The Batavia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:17 am

They have done it. They have actually done it.

Now the EU will censor copyrighted images and content, which also include parodies and non-profit works. Smaller companies are basically screwed now and won't be able to compete.

Not to be dramatic or anything but this could very much be the end of the internet as we know it.
I'm so fucking done, the EU is a fucking joke now.

EDIT: When I made this thread I had just found out the article had been passed and I was pretty bummed out about it. Thus, my opening post looks a bit exaggerated. No, this probably won't be the end of the internet as we know it and this doesn't directly ban memes. However, I'm personally still against this law.

On January 2019, the final vote will be held for it to be implemented in the EU member states. So if you oppose Article 13, the fight is not over yet.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:21 am

Banning parodies that are made for fun, not real profit? Why?
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:25 am

I've got memes if y'all need them.

It's going to be a hard existence without them.

But, seriously, this is a huge overstep of power, which will make big companies the only ones that will be able to survive.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:25 am

A shame to be sure, but at least the cocky German vegan crossfit memers will be eliminated from the scene.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:25 am

This would be a great time to post a Planet of the Apes meme with the Statue of Liberty. Too bad that's illegal now. :p

In all seriousness though, I doubt even a superpower would have the resources to actually start hunting down people for meme-ing. Nobody has that many police or prisons.

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:26 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:A shame to be sure, but at least the cocky German vegan crossfit memers will be eliminated from the scene.

There are so many memers that are better, and they will be shut down.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:26 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:A shame to be sure, but at least the cocky German vegan crossfit memers will be eliminated from the scene.

I really don't want to know what's behind this.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:27 am

Albrenia wrote:This would be a great time to post a Planet of the Apes meme with the Statue of Liberty. Too bad that's illegal now. :p

In all seriousness though, I doubt even a superpower would have the resources to actually start hunting down people for meme-ing. Nobody has that many police or prisons.

I sorta want to meme in Frankfurt's airport just to see if they'll catch me.
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Postby The Batavia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:28 am

Albrenia wrote:This would be a great time to post a Planet of the Apes meme with the Statue of Liberty. Too bad that's illegal now. :p

In all seriousness though, I doubt even a superpower would have the resources to actually start hunting down people for meme-ing. Nobody has that many police or prisons.

Oh I don't think it'll go so far that they'll hunt people down.

They do, however, now have copyright filter bots which will affect the whole internet.
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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:28 am

Move to 'Murica, we have uncensored memes over here.
Better yet, set up in Britannia, since Brexit's happening in a few years.
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Postby Dytarma » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:28 am

My meme dealer won't be happy.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:29 am

New Excalibus wrote:Move to 'Murica, we have uncensored memes over here.
Better yet, set up in Britannia, since Brexit's happening in a few years.


Half a year.

March 2019.

1st of April 2019 - Freedom to Meme Day. Officially declared.
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Postby The Batavia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:29 am

New Excalibus wrote:Move to 'Murica, we have uncensored memes over here.
Better yet, set up in Britannia, since Brexit's happening in a few years.

Oh, this won't just affect Europe, it'll affect the entire internet. It's just that Europe gets fucked the most.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:29 am

New Excalibus wrote:Move to 'Murica, we have uncensored memes over here.
Better yet, set up in Britannia, since Brexit's happening in a few years.

The memer exodus will bankrupt Europe of memes. India and America will now be the two great meme nations.
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Mine is still giving me fresh ones. I can send some.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:30 am

Yall got any of them memes
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:30 am

The Batavia wrote:
Albrenia wrote:This would be a great time to post a Planet of the Apes meme with the Statue of Liberty. Too bad that's illegal now. :p

In all seriousness though, I doubt even a superpower would have the resources to actually start hunting down people for meme-ing. Nobody has that many police or prisons.

Oh I don't think it'll go so far that they'll hunt people down.

They do, however, now have copyright filter bots which will affect the whole internet.


If there's one thing in life I have faith in, it's the internet's ability to overcome any bot or censor with roughly the speed it takes to create them. I shudder to think what the internet could do if it ever decided to do something productive with all that raw memetic energy.

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Postby Firaxin » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:30 am

The attack on memes have left all of us scarred and deformed, but I can assure you our resolve to make memes has never been strongah!

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Postby Triassica » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:31 am

Any idea how this will affect this site?
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 am

Dytarma wrote:My meme dealer won't be happy.


It will drive the price up though. Imagine how my much my Damn Daniel collection will be worth in a few months?

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Postby The Batavia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 am

Triassica wrote:Any idea how this will affect this site?

It'll probaby filter and censor images people upload on their flags or on the forums. This could have a huge impact on Roleplaying in the multiverse as we know it.
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 am

RIP memes.

On the other hand, there will be an another vote in January 2019, so perhaps the fight isn't lost.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 am

Albrenia wrote:
The Batavia wrote:Oh I don't think it'll go so far that they'll hunt people down.

They do, however, now have copyright filter bots which will affect the whole internet.


If there's one thing in life I have faith in, it's the internet's ability to overcome any bot or censor with roughly the speed it takes to create them. I shudder to think what the internet could do if it ever decided to do something productive with all that raw memetic energy.

That energy has been shown to be powerful. Now the memes will fight like a cornered, wounded animal.
Firaxin wrote:The attack on memes have left all of us scarred and deformed, but I can assure you our resolve to make memes has never been strongah!

We are number one! Our memes will grow! We shall never surrendah!
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Postby Dytarma » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 am

The Batavia wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:Move to 'Murica, we have uncensored memes over here.
Better yet, set up in Britannia, since Brexit's happening in a few years.

Oh, this won't just affect Europe, it'll affect the entire internet. It's just that Europe gets fucked the most.

Wait, so you're telling me if I move to Mongolia to look at a 2009 Genghis Khan meme, it could not let me do so because of European law?
The South Falls wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:Move to 'Murica, we have uncensored memes over here.
Better yet, set up in Britannia, since Brexit's happening in a few years.

The memer exodus will bankrupt Europe of memes. India and America will now be the two great meme nations.
Dytarma wrote:My meme dealer won't be happy.

Mine is still giving me fresh ones. I can send some.

Thanks, how much do you price for a forbidden meme?
Albrenia wrote:
Dytarma wrote:My meme dealer won't be happy.


It will drive the price up though. Imagine how my much my Damn Daniel collection will be worth in a few months?

Eh, that meme is a bit dead, so probably $30 per 20 memes.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:33 am

Shame about those memes.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:33 am

The Batavia wrote:
Triassica wrote:Any idea how this will affect this site?

It'll probaby filter and censor images people upload on their flags or on the forums. This could have a huge impact on Roleplaying in the multiverse as we know it.

European roleplayers will now have to design their own military hardware.
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