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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:23 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yes homosexuality is a fetish
Just like you can quit being heterosexual any time you want

What is the logical reasoning for a homosexual relationship? Try, just try to think beyond immediate flesh desires of simply having sex or cherishing someone for yourself.

You'll come to the conclusion that relationships should logically produce offspring then. You lot seem to be too obsessed with how you and only you is affected, and not the greater lot of society. Flesh desire and pleasure is an end in itself and should not be a pursuit in life, because you will be constantly unfulfilled and void. Why do you think we have such high depression rates too?It is because people pursue happiness in life, and are too stupid to realize it is a fleeting emotion. Homosexuality is an example of this trivial pleasure seeking pursuit.

That's not to say pleasure should never be felt, but it should be a by-product of the main pursuits in life, which believe it or not, should be greater than just yourself.

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Postby Karajabakh » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:23 pm


Do you not think anything has objective beauty? Are you so arrogant to believe that beauty can just be assigned to whatever you please?

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I have yet to hear anyone explain what degeneracy is or why it’s harmful

Because it is just for your own pleasure. Once again; try to understand here, pleasure is not something people should pursue because they will find themselves sorely losing at the end. You can't be in constantly pleasure.

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That’s why I have a loving husband that Inshare my life with :)
Call me Alex, I insist
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Postby Karajabakh » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:What is the logical reasoning for a homosexual relationship? Try, just try to think beyond immediate flesh desires of simply having sex or cherishing someone for yourself.

You'll come to the conclusion that relationships should logically produce offspring then. You lot seem to be too obsessed with how you and only you is affected, and not the greater lot of society. Flesh desire and pleasure is an end in itself and should not be a pursuit in life, because you will be constantly unfulfilled and void. Why do you think we have such high depression rates too?It is because people pursue happiness in life, and are too stupid to realize it is a fleeting emotion. Homosexuality is an example of this trivial pleasure seeking pursuit.

That's not to say pleasure should never be felt, but it should be a by-product of the main pursuits in life, which believe it or not, should be greater than just yourself.

I’m going to blow your mind
We don’t all need to reproduce, and relationships have points other then having kids


Gonna blow your mind, but you might not understand the message, it's okay, I know thinking beyond the scope of yourself is hard.

Why? Think beyond just your desires.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Karajabakh wrote:What is the logical reasoning for a homosexual relationship?

I am sexually and romantically attracted to men. Ergo, when I find a dude who I think is (a) very cute, (b) very likeable, and (c) definitely someone I'd love to spend years if not decades with and wouldn't get tired of, I want a homosexual relationship. Also, someone to raise kids with would be nice, but neither of us would need to get pregnant for that.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yes homosexuality is a fetish
Just like you can quit being heterosexual any time you want

What is the logical reasoning for a homosexual relationship? Try, just try to think beyond immediate flesh desires of simply having sex or cherishing someone for yourself.

You'll come to the conclusion that relationships should logically produce offspring then. You lot seem to be too obsessed with how you and only you is affected, and not the greater lot of society. Flesh desire and pleasure is an end in itself and should not be a pursuit in life, because you will be constantly unfulfilled and void. Why do you think we have such high depression rates too?It is because people pursue happiness in life, and are too stupid to realize it is a fleeting emotion. Homosexuality is an example of this trivial pleasure seeking pursuit.

That's not to say pleasure should never be felt, but it should be a by-product of the main pursuits in life, which believe it or not, should be greater than just yourself.


So when do we bar individuals who are infertile or otherwise incapable of reproducing from marrying then?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:25 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I’m going to blow your mind
We don’t all need to reproduce, and relationships have points other then having kids


Gonna blow your mind, but you might not understand the message, it's okay, I know thinking beyond the scope of yourself is hard.

Why? Think beyond just your desires.

I am. We don’t all need to reproduce, there’s 7 fucking billion of us
Call me Alex, I insist
I am a girl, damnit
Slut Pride. So like, real talk, I’m a porn actress. We’re not all bimbos. I do not give out my information or videos to avoid conflict with site policy. I’m happy to talk about the industry or my thoughts on the career but I will not be showing you any goodies. Sorry
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:26 pm

Mardla wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Disabled people have a lower output to spciety, so anti-disabled movement when?

What are logical arguments for dignity being so necessary? What are logical arguments for restricting LGBT rights?

Why do I feel like the source is "muh feelyngs"?

Material production is not the only output.

There is no such thing as logical values or principles

What about "don't do harm to people who don't harm you"?
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Postby Karajabakh » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:26 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:What is the logical reasoning for a homosexual relationship? Try, just try to think beyond immediate flesh desires of simply having sex or cherishing someone for yourself.

You'll come to the conclusion that relationships should logically produce offspring then. You lot seem to be too obsessed with how you and only you is affected, and not the greater lot of society. Flesh desire and pleasure is an end in itself and should not be a pursuit in life, because you will be constantly unfulfilled and void. Why do you think we have such high depression rates too?It is because people pursue happiness in life, and are too stupid to realize it is a fleeting emotion. Homosexuality is an example of this trivial pleasure seeking pursuit.

That's not to say pleasure should never be felt, but it should be a by-product of the main pursuits in life, which believe it or not, should be greater than just yourself.


So when do we bar individuals who are infertile or otherwise incapable of reproducing from marrying then?


That's a good point. Perhaps.

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Postby Karajabakh » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:
Gonna blow your mind, but you might not understand the message, it's okay, I know thinking beyond the scope of yourself is hard.

Why? Think beyond just your desires.

I am. We don’t all need to reproduce, there’s 7 fucking billion of us


I agree. So don't reproduce. Not everyone needs to, but the logical conclusion of a relationship is to produce offspring.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I am. We don’t all need to reproduce, there’s 7 fucking billion of us


I agree. So don't reproduce. Not everyone needs to, but the logical conclusion of a relationship is to produce offspring.


Based upon what logic?
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Postby Karajabakh » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Liriena wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:What is the logical reasoning for a homosexual relationship?

I am sexually and romantically attracted to men. Ergo, when I find a dude who I think is (a) very cute, (b) very likeable, and (c) definitely someone I'd love to spend years if not decades with and wouldn't get tired of, I want a homosexual relationship. Also, someone to raise kids with would be nice, but neither of us would need to get pregnant for that.

Read my above posts, please.

Try, seriously, try to think beyond the scope of yourself.

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Postby Huntpublic » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:27 pm

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Postby Liriena » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:27 pm


I haven't gone deep enough down the rabbit hole of philosophy and aesthetics to form an opinion on the matter. My first instinct is that beauty operates on multiple levels, ranging from the individual and psychological to the cultural and historical, and potentially all the way to the biological level. And maybe there's some spiritual aspect to it, but I don't know yet.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:28 pm

Mardla wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
No, but some daft society of uptight, self-oppressed drones doesn't sound too fun either.

Restraint is not innately oppressive. Rather oppression is the consequence of lack of restraint


Yeah yeah I've read 1984 too. I don't think the government is the protagonist in it though.

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Postby Karajabakh » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:28 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:
I agree. So don't reproduce. Not everyone needs to, but the logical conclusion of a relationship is to produce offspring.


Based upon what logic?


What is the point of sex?

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:28 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So when do we bar individuals who are infertile or otherwise incapable of reproducing from marrying then?


That's a good point. Perhaps.

At least try to apply your own logic
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:29 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Based upon what logic?


What is the point of sex?


If the whole point of intercourse is reproduction why are we wired up to enjoy it even if that isn't the result?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:29 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I’m going to blow your mind
We don’t all need to reproduce, and relationships have points other then having kids


Gonna blow your mind, but you might not understand the message, it's okay, I know thinking beyond the scope of yourself is hard.

Why? Think beyond just your desires.

If you seek happines, you'll lose it.

If you don't seek happiness, you won't even have what you would lose.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:29 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Based upon what logic?


What is the point of sex?

In a biological sense to reproduce
We have evolved beyond base biological needs
Call me Alex, I insist
I am a girl, damnit
Slut Pride. So like, real talk, I’m a porn actress. We’re not all bimbos. I do not give out my information or videos to avoid conflict with site policy. I’m happy to talk about the industry or my thoughts on the career but I will not be showing you any goodies. Sorry
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Postby Liriena » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:30 pm

be gay do crime


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Political compass stuff:
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:30 pm

Karajabakh wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Based upon what logic?


What is the point of sex?


Who cares what the point of it is? If we only followed basic biological reasoning we'd be just driven by instinct.

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Postby Huntpublic » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:30 pm

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Huntpublic wrote:
Oh my, I wasn't expecting that...

There's a ContraPoints video for every occasion. :3


I honestly haven't heard of him(?) until now
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:30 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:
What is the point of sex?


If the whole point of intercourse is reproduction why are we wired up to enjoy it even if that isn't the result?

Why did God put the male g spot in the butt then say homosexuality is a sin?
Call me Alex, I insist
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Postby Liriena » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:31 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Karajabakh wrote:
What is the point of sex?

In a biological sense to reproduce
We have evolved beyond base biological needs

How dare you suggest that humans are not driven solely by innate biological instincts and have the capacity to create and reproduce meaning to our behavior that goes far beyond purely evolutionary drives?
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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