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by The South Falls » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:00 pm
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by Mardla » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:01 pm
Ihury wrote:Mardla wrote:Homosexuality was very hip then, even King James (of the King James Bible) was into it. But homosexual culture of Shakespeare's time shares no continuity with contemporary homosexual culture. Also his sonnets are pretty meh compared to his incredible plays.
So pray tell, how is Renaissance homosexuality different from contemporary homosexuality, and why do you consider only the former to be acceptable?
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by The Liberated Territories » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:06 pm
by Valgora » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:07 pm
Joohan wrote:The South Falls wrote:I don't force you to live your life a certain way.
Neither you, nor I, live alone on an island. Your actions, no matter how seemingly disparate from my own physical person - often do have an impact on my world. Trash thrown away by Joe living Japan effects my planet, which affects me. Me giving money to a man running for president effects the country, which effects you. And may bad mouthing a cop in front of children will influence them.
Our individual actions can have massive real effects upon the greater society - which is why we shouldn't simply view ever interaction as be isolated and disparate from anyone or anything else.
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by The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:07 pm
by Ihury » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:07 pm
Mardla wrote:Ihury wrote:
So pray tell, how is Renaissance homosexuality different from contemporary homosexuality, and why do you consider only the former to be acceptable?
I don't particularly approve of either, but renaissance homosexuality did not caricature our culture. Shakespeare would have thought same-sex marriage a farce.
by Valgora » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:08 pm
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Nasha Zemlya wrote:
Homosexuality is an evolutionary dead end, it brings harm to everybody.
Even if that were true, not every human being is born gay and those that are are not in high enough numbers to even remotely pose an existential threat to the human species as a whole. So in the end homosexuality is of no harm to anyone anywhere except from those who choose to physically and psychologically assault and abuse gay individuals.
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by Ihury » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:09 pm
Joohan wrote:The South Falls wrote:I don't force you to live your life a certain way.
Neither you, nor I, live alone on an island. Your actions, no matter how seemingly disparate from my own physical person - often do have an impact on my world. Trash thrown away by Joe living Japan effects my planet, which affects me. Me giving money to a man running for president effects the country, which effects you. And a man bad mouthing a cop in front of children will influence those children.
Our individual actions can have massive real effects upon the greater society - which is why we shouldn't simply view ever interaction as be isolated and disparate from anyone or anything else.
by The South Falls » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:09 pm
The Church of Gino wrote:why does it feel like people are using this thread as a place to vent homophobia...
by Joohan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:10 pm
by Erythrean Thebes » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:10 pm
Joohan wrote:The South Falls wrote:I don't force you to live your life a certain way.
Neither you, nor I, live alone on an island. Your actions, no matter how seemingly disparate from my own physical person - often do have an impact on my world. Trash thrown away by Joe living Japan effects my planet, which affects me. Me giving money to a man running for president effects the country, which effects you. And a man bad mouthing a cop in front of children will influence those children.
Our individual actions can have massive real effects upon the greater society - which is why we shouldn't simply view ever interaction as be isolated and disparate from anyone or anything else.
by The South Falls » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:11 pm
Joohan wrote:Valgora wrote:I'm considering it a large sub-culture within an even larger sub-culture.
But that's not the point of my question.
Sub-culture is defined as: a cultural group within a larger culture, often having beliefs or interests at variance with those of the larger culture.
Heterosexuality is the larger culture in this case. But, regardless, I will humor the question. Essentially, all concepts of acceptable love ( within Christian European societies ) have been portrayed from the perspective of heterosexuality. A unique identity was crafted in the homosexual sub-culture by adapting heterosexual culture to their own desires.
by Bombadil » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:11 pm
by Ihury » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:11 pm
Joohan wrote:Valgora wrote:I'm considering it a large sub-culture within an even larger sub-culture.
But that's not the point of my question.
Sub-culture is defined as: a cultural group within a larger culture, often having beliefs or interests at variance with those of the larger culture.
Heterosexuality is the larger culture in this case. But, regardless, I will humor the question. Essentially, all concepts of acceptable love ( within Christian European societies ) have been portrayed from the perspective of heterosexuality. A unique identity was crafted in the homosexual sub-culture by adapting heterosexual culture to their own desires.
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