India legalises homosexuality (finally)

[Dark Socialism]

People can be homophiliac necrophiliacs too

Why are you trying to forcibly push this equivalence between homosexuality and necrophilia anyway?

Both are disgusting and the result of mutation.

[Eglaecia]

People can be homophiliac necrophiliacs too

Why are you trying to forcibly push this equivalence between homosexuality and necrophilia anyway?

Why are you trying to act like they're completely different things? They're both sexual attractions to something.

[Vassenor]

Why are you trying to forcibly push this equivalence between homosexuality and necrophilia anyway?

Both are disgusting.

What is disgusting about two fully consenting adults loving each other?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

assuming ancient religious texts are the indisputable basis of morality...

Well, yes you can't. Morality is literally God(s)-given, no matter what religion you ascribe to. It's a code defined by something higher than man.

If you're Christian and you believe morality is God given then, ok, I can see our point. However, why insist on applying your morality on people who do not believe in your god? Makes no sense.

[Oil exporting People]

I suppose I could try to explain to you why it's silly to try to oppress LGBT+ people, but I know that secretly you have a heart full of tolerance and friendship for all people, you're just pretending to hate the gays. Maybe if you were really a Nazi I'd bother trying. Or maybe I'd recognise that that would be pointless and I'd just post whatever entertained me.

I am therefore extremely touched I live in your head rent free.

[Oil exporting People]

Well, yes you can't. Morality is literally God(s)-given, no matter what religion you ascribe to. It's a code defined by something higher than man.

If you're Christian and you believe morality is God given then, ok, I can see our point. However, why insist on applying your morality on people who do not believe in your god? Makes no sense.

Why is water wet?

[Estanglia]

Why are you trying to forcibly push this equivalence between homosexuality and necrophilia anyway?

Both are disgusting and the result of mutation.

How is homosexuality disgusting?

Why are you trying to forcibly push this equivalence between homosexuality and necrophilia anyway?

Why are you trying to act like they're completely different things? They're both sexual attractions to something.

Because one is a consensual activity between two living adults and one is someone having sex with a corpse (which is unable to consent.) The only similarities are they both involve attractions and sex between humans.
The same can be said of heterosexuality as well.

[Dark Socialism]

Both are disgusting.

What is disgusting about two fully consenting adults loving each other?

I personally find it disgusting, if they can hide it and find another gay to fulfill their mutant desires then it's ok

[Aellex]

1. Have you lost your ability to read "in the belief"? There is no correlation between legal status of homosexuality and birth rates in reality, as opposed to what Stalin believed.

This correlation is irrelevant, the goal is all that matter in the situation we described at first.

2. While the goals of individual humans are varied, they typically fall into this pattern:

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Denying physiological and safety needs to the majority of the population in the name of the state, as what many collectivist regimes do, does not act in the interests of the population at large (which is made up of individuals)

Neither is pandering to every caprice of every individual. Note, too, that you're the only one talking about needs when I've been talking about interests.

[Eglaecia]

Well, yes you can't. Morality is literally God(s)-given, no matter what religion you ascribe to. It's a code defined by something higher than man.

If you're Christian and you believe morality is God given then, ok, I can see our point. However, why insist on applying your morality on people who do not believe in your god? Makes no sense.

Because morality is God-given. To even make the suggestion something is right or wrong is to recognise that morality exists, and morality cannot exist without God.

[Eglaecia]

Both are disgusting and the result of mutation.

How is homosexuality disgusting?

Why are you trying to act like they're completely different things? They're both sexual attractions to something.

Because one is a consensual activity between two living adults and one is someone having sex with a corpse (which is unable to consent.) The only similarities are they both involve attractions and sex between humans.
The same can be said of heterosexuality as well.

Necrophilia isn't just having sex with a corpse, it's being attracted to corpses.

[Aellex]

If you're Christian and you believe morality is God given then, ok, I can see our point. However, why insist on applying your morality on people who do not believe in your god? Makes no sense.

Because I abhor relativism as a world outlook. I don't particularly want to force my views on everyone but that don't mean that I'm going to adapt them for everyone.
Someone might believe murder is fine and dandy but just because he hold that view and thus doesn't see anything wrong with him killing half a dozen people won't change the fact that I'm going to disapprove of it. (I'm using a caricaturaly extreme example for the sake of the argument, of course.)

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Good on India, there’s no good rational reason to ban homosexuality.

Muslim-majority countries by Islam's official status:



Dark green - Islamic state
Light green - Official religion
Blue - Secular state
Orange - Other/unclear

Again, I see Muslim-majority countries. Where are the Islamic countries?

The color key literally says the dark green ones.

[San Lumen]

How is homosexuality disgusting?

Because one is a consensual activity between two living adults and one is someone having sex with a corpse (which is unable to consent.) The only similarities are they both involve attractions and sex between humans.
The same can be said of heterosexuality as well.

Necrophilia isn't just having sex with a corpse, it's being attracted to corpses.

You still have not answered my question of the real life example I gave of someone being raised by a gay couple and turning out just fine.

That would be my friend from college who was not harmed in any way by having two dads and grew up to be a wonderful person,.

Why should he have been denied a loving home from two amazing men and stayed in the system any longer than he had too?

[Oil exporting People]

You still have not answered my question of the real life example I gave of someone being raised by a gay couple and turning out just fine.

Because you're making an emotional appeal instead of an empirical statement and this is the internet; I know a Homosexual who raped thousands of little boys and then genocided the population of Liberia. How do you know this isn't true just as I'm supposed to believe your example IS true?

[San Lumen]

You still have not answered my question of the real life example I gave of someone being raised by a gay couple and turning out just fine.

Because you're making an emotional appeal instead of an empirical statement and this is the internet; I know a Homosexual who raped thousands of little boys and then genocided the population of Liberia. How do you know this isn't true just as I'm supposed to believe your example IS true?

Because thats absurd nonsense

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If you're Christian and you believe morality is God given then, ok, I can see our point. However, why insist on applying your morality on people who do not believe in your god? Makes no sense.

Because I abhor relativism as a world outlook. I don't particularly want to force my views on everyone but that don't mean that I'm going to adapt them for everyone.
Someone might believe murder is fine and dandy but just because he hold that view and thus doesn't see anything wrong with him killing half a dozen people won't change the fact that I'm going to disapprove of it. (I'm using a caricaturaly extreme example for the sake of the argument, of course.)

Ok, I am not arguing against that. You say morality is God-given, ok. But a person who doesn't believe in your deity doesn't exactly care. Morality to them is probably given by another source or in another way.

And I absolutely agree, you don't have to adapt or stop disapproving of something just because the person next to you believes differently. I wouldn't ask you to change that. However, as much as you abhor relativism, morality is not monolithic. I think we can agree that in most things, most people believe equally. I don't subscribe to Christianity, but much like you, I abhor murder. I disapprove of it, unless it was strictly necessary, like say, self-defense. But I don't believe morality was given to us by a deity and I think it can exist without a divine origin.

I hope I explained myself.

[Oil exporting People]

Because you're making an emotional appeal instead of an empirical statement and this is the internet; I know a Homosexual who raped thousands of little boys and then genocided the population of Liberia. How do you know this isn't true just as I'm supposed to believe your example IS true?

Because thats absurd nonsense

So you claim. You have no proof to refute my claim just as we can't refute your assertion; this is why you debate with empirical facts as opposed to making "Well X knows Y" type claims.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Good on India, there’s no good rational reason to ban homosexuality.

Again, I see Muslim-majority countries. Where are the Islamic countries?

The color key literally says the dark green ones.

Actually, that's what Ohio put in.

[San Lumen]

Because thats absurd nonsense

So you claim. You have no proof to refute my claim just as we can't refute your assertion; this is why you debate with empirical facts as opposed to making "Well X knows Y" type claims.

your claim is totally utterly absurd

[Kubumba Tribe]

So you claim. You have no proof to refute my claim just as we can't refute your assertion; this is why you debate with empirical facts as opposed to making "Well X knows Y" type claims.

your claim is totally utterly absurd

OEP low-key has a point tho.

[Ifreann]

I suppose I could try to explain to you why it's silly to try to oppress LGBT+ people, but I know that secretly you have a heart full of tolerance and friendship for all people, you're just pretending to hate the gays. Maybe if you were really a Nazi I'd bother trying. Or maybe I'd recognise that that would be pointless and I'd just post whatever entertained me.

I am therefore extremely touched I live in your head rent free.

My head doesn't charge rent.

[Oil exporting People]

So you claim. You have no proof to refute my claim just as we can't refute your assertion; this is why you debate with empirical facts as opposed to making "Well X knows Y" type claims.

your claim is totally utterly absurd

And you can't disprove it by just stating that because it carries no more weight than what I have said. To disprove it, you'd need to cite empirical data; this is how you conduct a debate.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Good on India, there’s no good rational reason to ban homosexuality.


The color key literally says the dark green ones.

Actually, that's what Ohio put in.

What?

[Oil exporting People]

I am therefore extremely touched I live in your head rent free.

My head doesn't charge rent.

Gotta use up all that open space somehow.