Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation Hearing Now with Poll

[Greed and Death]

what past?

Former black out style alcoholic who allegedly forced himself on one young woman inside a locked bedroom at a party with his wing man;s assistance. That allegation needs investigating IMHO. And so it shall be.

We do not know he was a black out drunk. A friend's book kind of sort of references him (O'Kavanauh) but it could easily be someone else or an amalgamation of two people.

Now for Evidence that he was not blackout drunk. 65 women who went to highschool (many attended the same high school and likely were in the same social circles as the accuser) Said Kavanaugh was not a blackout drunk nor anything less than a gentleman. Also he got into Yale how many blackout drunks score that well on the SAT and maintain the GPA to go to Yale ?

[Petrasylvania]

Are you really choosing this hill to die on? That Trump isn't currently viewed as the world's most prolific liar?

Hillary is still alive so no he isn’t.

So much for Get Over It.

[Jerzyland]

Really, he should tell us who is currently more prolific a liar than Trump?

Citation!

do you really trust Kim Jong Un over Trump?

He doesn't lie with the frequency. I do not see tweets storms of lies coming from Kim Jung Un. He's ruling a country the size of New Jersey. That's mainly his audience.
Trump's audience is the whole world. You do know the US is the most powerful nation? A lie has to be heard by another person to be counted as a lie. Trump's the winner.

[Petrasylvania]

Let's go with a bit more recent example. Al Franken, did he also received any benefit of the doubt? He was a comedian joking around. Kavan ugh should withdraw his nomination.

A nominee for justice on the SCOTUS must be beyond reproach. This man clearly is not.

There was actual physical evidence against Franken, though. Namely, there was a picture of him groping an unconscious woman.

The picture was him trying to look like he was groping an unconscious woman using a tacky visual trick. But again that was treated like Dark Web Porn.

[Shofercia]

The Republicans could've won or lost the Presidential Election in 2016. There is no Presidential Election in 2018. No election, no risk.

There is an election, namely the midterm. If that election has no risk as you claim then the five week limit you are putting on is useless as the guy will be confirmed whether or not the election occurs. So which is it, is there a risk or is there no risk? This holds for the rest of your comment. Hell letting the Democrats hold up until after the nomination even has some reward for the Republicans if their election is so certain...namely they can claim that the people are backing them when it comes to the Supreme Court and that they where not being hypocrites since they did wait for the election.

Once again, I said that the Republican cannot lose enough seats for the Democrats to gain the majority. Having 55 seats in the Senate is better than having 50 seats in the Senate. Currently, the Republicans are likely to have 54 seats. If Kavanaugh is confirmed prior to November, they might pick up a few more. Or they might not, but at least they're secure the 54 seats. And both parties have done plenty of hypocritical bullshit, so I doubt that phantom benefit you're pretending might happen, will actually have any effect.

[Shofercia]

A compromise involves some give and take. The Republicans have the votes to confirm. You're asking that the Republicans put their own party at greater risk, irrespective of what the FBI says. That's not how compromises work.

You where the one who said there was not risk.

I said that there's no risk since the Democrats won't win the majority. I feel that you are being deliberately dense. Imagine a scenario where the Republicans might gain 3-5 seats, or they might lose a seat. That's a net difference of six seats. That's a lot. And yet, whether the Republicans have 50 seats, or 56 seats, is irrelevant when it comes to negating a Democratic majority, since those outcomes, as well as every outcome in between, will negate it. So while there is no risk of a Democratic majority, those 4 to 6 seats are at risk.

[Telconi]

So stop looking-up facts because Trump doesn’t care about them? I’m not sure if I understood. If that’s the case, that’s a rather denegrating way for a discussion to go.

Nope.
The point is ...how do you Trump people square that, the president not adhering to facts? Isn't he a role model for our children who will be the leaders, teachers, businessmen and parents of the future generation? If not, when did we decide he could virtually be Joe Isuzu and it's okay. When?

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

[Jerzyland]

Former black out style alcoholic who allegedly forced himself on one young woman inside a locked bedroom at a party with his wing man;s assistance. That allegation needs investigating IMHO. And so it shall be.

We do not know he was a black out drunk. A friend's book kind of sort of references him (O'Kavanauh) but it could easily be someone else or an amalgamation of two people.

Now for Evidence that he was not blackout drunk. 65 women who went to highschool (many attended the same high school and likely were in the same social circles as the accuser) Said Kavanaugh was not a blackout drunk nor anything less than a gentleman. Also he got into Yale how many blackout drunks score that well on the SAT and maintain the GPA to go to Yale ?

Okay, there's still a chance to get dodgy without solid evidence the black out drunk thing is overblown. But still it might be accurate.

I don't want a SCOTUS justice that might relapse into alcoholism. Just sayin. Maybe Old Gentleman is soon his brand.

You'd be surprised the people I know/knew who were smashed half the time in HS/college back in the 1970s who've achieved large measures of professional status. But none of them are high government officials. Especially lifetime appointments.

Then it's best to find people who's personal history minimizes the potential avoidable problems. Too much is on the line.

[Albrenia]

Nope.
The point is ...how do you Trump people square that, the president not adhering to facts? Isn't he a role model for our children who will be the leaders, teachers, businessmen and parents of the future generation? If not, when did we decide he could virtually be Joe Isuzu and it's okay. When?

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

Seems slightly short-sighted to me, but understandable.

[Kash Island]

Nope.
The point is ...how do you Trump people square that, the president not adhering to facts? Isn't he a role model for our children who will be the leaders, teachers, businessmen and parents of the future generation? If not, when did we decide he could virtually be Joe Isuzu and it's okay. When?

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

Agreed

people are caring about shit that dosn't ultimately matter.

[Jerzyland]

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

Agreed

people are caring about shit that dosn't ultimately matter.

It matters because we are trying to run a civilization here.

[Kash Island]

Agreed

people are caring about shit that dosn't ultimately matter.

It matters because we are trying to run a civilization here.

I have doubts I would want to live in a "civilization" under your definition...

[Shofercia]

There's a difference between a Presidential election (choice in nomination) and congressional election (choice in 1/3 of the advice and consent). McConnell's justification was expressly for the former, so I don't know why this is continuously ignored.

Except that in a presidential election only a limited number of states actually matter. It is only those states that make the choice, for the rest your vote don't matter as much.

Except that's not his point. His point was that, since the president appoints the Justice, the Presidential Election matters more than the midterm election, when it comes picking Justices of the Supreme Court. He wasn't talking about the Electoral College.

1. Yep
2. True, but it seems that quite a few did.
3. Although both parties need independent votes, and the apology was definitely for them, I doubt that it was just for the independents.
4. Fair enough

1. Annoyingly, I mistyped for that line and auto correct did the rest. To clarify, there's good people in the GOP and bad people in the dem party. However, there are more dems that care about sexual assault and more republicans that are ok with it.
2. Congratulations to the GOP. Some of them are made uncomfortable by child molestation.
3. I honestly am amazed that you think republicans cared about that. His response to the dozen or more allegations against him was pretty clearly aggressive and even his "apology" was created with excuses like "locker room talk".

1. To paraphrase Bill Clinton: it depends on how you define sexual assault; while some on the Right are ok with it, and that's wrong, I doubt that most would want sexual assaulters living in their neighborhoods.
2. I'd say most of them, at least most of the Republicans I know are quite uncomfortable with it.
3. Some might've. Keep in mind, that the crazies, on both sides, are also the noisiest.

[Jerzyland]

It matters because we are trying to run a civilization here.

I have doubts I would want to live in a "civilization" under your definition...

Oooooookay. The underlined is one of the more famous lines from Jerry Seinfeld. smh.

Neverrrrmind. (that's Gilda Radner)

[Telconi]

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

Seems slightly short-sighted to me, but understandable.

On the contrary, I'd say that focusing on mannerisms that will only effect the presidency so long as Donald's ass occupies that seat, rather than policies that could define my life for decades to come, would be short sighted.

[Hakons]

Would it be possible to launch an investigation but continue the confirmation hearing as normal? I'm not sure of SCOTUS rules about investigations and charges thereof.

The hearing part of the process is over. The judiciary committee votes tomorrow on taking the nomination to the floor. The Democrats sat on this information throughout the entire vetting process. Now the judiciary committee has set up an emergency phone interview with Kavanaugh, but the Democrats are refusing to participate. This isn't politics. It's just plain wrong.

[Senkaku]

Its kind of odd of all the years she could have come forward it was this year. I bet someone on the left found this gal and asked her to "come forward" so they could sully Kavanaugh as a SCOTUS nominee and in reality this isn't about the SCOTUS pick it's about how many more ways can we shoot ourselves in the foot while trying to ruin trump.

Supposedly she came out in 2012 when Romney said he would nominate kauvanah if he was elected. But she documented nothing till then.

There was a time and place for this to be investigated, and that was before and during the hearings. But if it did, that would have given Trump time to nominate someone else prior to now. The democrats don't give a shit about her either, they are just using this to delay the vote till after the mid-terms.

I think you should read this lol, it sums up my response to your bullshit better than I can rn: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ult-219983

"What is even fair to be debating some 36 years after the fact? ... Three decades of remorseless ideological and cultural combat—over Robert Bork, over Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill, over Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich, over Bush v. Gore, and, at last and above all, over Donald Trump—have made the question virtually irrelevant."

It goes on rather eloquently imo lol

Nope.
The point is ...how do you Trump people square that, the president not adhering to facts? Isn't he a role model for our children who will be the leaders, teachers, businessmen and parents of the future generation? If not, when did we decide he could virtually be Joe Isuzu and it's okay. When?

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

When said lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing are interfering with his ability to deliver on the policies you want, as I think all of America can see they are (whether you want to say that's because it gives the lamestream media fodder to attack him with, or because he's an ignoramus with the attention span of a goldfish, or anywhere in between, the point still stands), you would think you'd maybe have an epiphany and search for someone more effective.

[Telconi]

Supposedly she came out in 2012 when Romney said he would nominate kauvanah if he was elected. But she documented nothing till then.

There was a time and place for this to be investigated, and that was before and during the hearings. But if it did, that would have given Trump time to nominate someone else prior to now. The democrats don't give a shit about her either, they are just using this to delay the vote till after the mid-terms.

I think you should read this lol, it sums up my response to your bullshit better than I can rn: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ult-219983

"What is even fair to be debating some 36 years after the fact? ... Three decades of remorseless ideological and cultural combat—over Robert Bork, over Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill, over Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich, over Bush v. Gore, and, at last and above all, over Donald Trump—have made the question virtually irrelevant."

It goes on rather eloquently imo lol

He's not a role model for my children, he's the elected head of government of this country. The only thing I expect from him are policies which benefit me. If he does this job with tact and poise, cool. if he does it with lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing, oh well, the end result is the same.

When said lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing are interfering with his ability to deliver on the policies you want, as I think all of America can see they are (whether you want to say that's because it gives the lamestream media fodder to attack him with, or because he's an ignoramus with the attention span of a goldfish, or anywhere in between, the point still stands), you would think you'd maybe have an epiphany and search for someone more effective.

Ah, yes let me just fire up my legal power to appoint a replacement president.

[Senkaku]

I think you should read this lol, it sums up my response to your bullshit better than I can rn: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ult-219983

"What is even fair to be debating some 36 years after the fact? ... Three decades of remorseless ideological and cultural combat—over Robert Bork, over Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill, over Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich, over Bush v. Gore, and, at last and above all, over Donald Trump—have made the question virtually irrelevant."

It goes on rather eloquently imo lol


When said lies, cussing, and pussy grabbing are interfering with his ability to deliver on the policies you want, as I think all of America can see they are (whether you want to say that's because it gives the lamestream media fodder to attack him with, or because he's an ignoramus with the attention span of a goldfish, or anywhere in between, the point still stands), you would think you'd maybe have an epiphany and search for someone more effective.

Ah, yes let me just fire up my legal power to appoint a replacement president.

I'm glad to hear you'll be joining me in voting Democratic in 2020.

[Fartsniffage]

Would it be possible to launch an investigation but continue the confirmation hearing as normal? I'm not sure of SCOTUS rules about investigations and charges thereof.

The hearing part of the process is over. The judiciary committee votes tomorrow on taking the nomination to the floor. The Democrats sat on this information throughout the entire vetting process. Now the judiciary committee has set up an emergency phone interview with Kavanaugh, but the Democrats are refusing to participate. This isn't politics. It's just plain wrong.

There is a public hearing set up for next week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45555359

[Telconi]

Ah, yes let me just fire up my legal power to appoint a replacement president.

I'm glad to hear you'll be joining me in voting Democratic in 2020.

Trump is mean, better replace him with an atrocity.

[Fartsniffage]

I'm glad to hear you'll be joining me in voting Democratic in 2020.

Trump is mean, better replace him with an atrocity.

Who is running for the Democrats in 2020?

[Grinning Dragon]

The hearing part of the process is over. The judiciary committee votes tomorrow on taking the nomination to the floor. The Democrats sat on this information throughout the entire vetting process. Now the judiciary committee has set up an emergency phone interview with Kavanaugh, but the Democrats are refusing to participate. This isn't politics. It's just plain wrong.

There is a public hearing set up for next week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45555359

Nothing like partying like it's 1991 again.

[Telconi]

Trump is mean, better replace him with an atrocity.

Who is running for the Democrats in 2020?

A Democrat.

[Senkaku]

I'm glad to hear you'll be joining me in voting Democratic in 2020.

Trump is mean, better replace him with an atrocity.

The point still stands that you can, in fact, replace him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As for atrocities, one would think a self-proclaimed "Democrat" would wait to see who the nominee is. Who knows, Tel, maybe you'll get lucky!