Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation Hearing Now with Poll

[Vassenor]

Let's see the evidence for this accusation.

Let's see the evidence that Kavanaugh did sexually assault someone.

So predictable you could set your watch by it.

[Chernoslavia]

Let's see the evidence that Kavanaugh did sexually assault someone.

So predictable you could set your watch by it.

At least I'm not so gullible as to believe everything mainstream media says.

[Vassenor]

So predictable you could set your watch by it.

At least I'm not so gullible as to believe everything mainstream media says.

So we have deflection and we have ad hominem. But no actual answer to the initial question.

[Goldwater]

Why didn't the supposed victim go to the authorities? Why the hell did people wait to make these accusations on the eve of the vote?

There's a whole laundry list of reasons why many rape and sexual assault victims don't go to the authorities.

20% feared retaliation
13% believed the police would not do anything to help
13% believed it was a personal matter
8% reported to a different official
8% believed it was not important enough to report
7% did not want to get the perpetrator in trouble
2% believed the police could not do anything to help
30% gave another reason, or did not cite one reason

Also, in this case seeing as she was 15 and highly intoxicated based on the accounts I've read of the story, her parents probably would not have been happy about the back story to this incident. Nor is it true that admitting you're getting fall down drunk at 15 something that is likely to advance you socially or academically in the long run.

Even if she did talk about it to people, which I believe she says they didn't, at ten years out of high school for myself, there's no way I could recall specific details about any conversations I had with my class mates. I'm already more in the boat that Dr. Ford is in, it is difficult for me to place events or even people into years (let alone specifics).

He did?

He did. He blew it out of the water. He immediately denied it, under oath, which opens him to perjury, and for so so many people to come forward personally that knew him and to vouch for his character at the time is very credible.

I think the obvious assessment at this point is that Dr. Ford clearly remembers and believes the events happened as she claims, and Kavanaugh clearly honestly believes they did not happen. Ans that's probably the extent of the hard facts we're going to get about an interaction between drunken teenagers decades ago. Both of them have made very credible accounts.

[The Black Forrest]

I guess the pedo priests aren't.

And I guess every right winger is.

Said nobody ever.

[Chernoslavia]

At least I'm not so gullible as to believe everything mainstream media says.

So we have deflection and we have ad hominem. But no actual answer to the initial question.

Lol you're one to talk about deflecting and I'm not trying to answer your question to Big Jim just asking you for evidence that Kavanaugh is guilty. And to no one's surprise you still haven't provided any. So where's your answer to my question?

[Chernoslavia]

And I guess every right winger is.

Said nobody ever.

O are you sure about that one, bud?

[The Black Forrest]

So we have deflection and we have ad hominem. But no actual answer to the initial question.

Lol you're one to talk about deflecting and I'm not trying to answer your question to Big Jim just asking you for evidence that Kavanaugh is guilty. And to no one's surprise you still haven't provided any. So where's your answer to my question?

Big Jim likes tossing comments to try and annoy people.

Your comments are rather ignorant in the matters of sexual assault and trauma. Most women don't report it. Even less men report it.

[The Black Forrest]

Said nobody ever.

O are you sure about that one, bud?

Ok. Show me somebody who said most right wingers are pedos.

[Vassenor]

So we have deflection and we have ad hominem. But no actual answer to the initial question.

Lol you're one to talk about deflecting and I'm not trying to answer your question to Big Jim just asking you for evidence that Kavanaugh is guilty. And to no one's surprise you still haven't provided any. So where's your answer to my question?

And I'm not the one making the accusation so it's not on me to provide evidence to the internet peanut gallery. Next dumb question.

[Vassenor]

Lol you're one to talk about deflecting and I'm not trying to answer your question to Big Jim just asking you for evidence that Kavanaugh is guilty. And to no one's surprise you still haven't provided any. So where's your answer to my question?

Big Jim likes tossing comments to try and annoy people.

Your comments are rather ignorant in the matters of sexual assault and trauma. Most women don't report it. Even less men report it.

Why is rape so underreported?

-Because, despite false reports being rare, victims are routinely accused of being liars.

-Because victims are blamed for the rapists' actions.

-Because police often dismiss or ridicule victims.

-Because even when rape is reported, it's rare for an arrest to be made, and rarer for that arrest to lead to a conviction.

-Because rape myths and lack of information lead victims to question and doubt themselves.

-Because institutions suppress reports to protect their own reputations.

-Because most rapes are committed by friends or family, and don't match the typical "stranger in the bushes" scenario.

-Because, when the victim is male, our messed-up ideas about masculinity and strength add another layer of guilt and shame.

-Because victims are attacked, threatened, and harassed for speaking out.

-Because rapists are often in a position of power or control over their victims.

-Because victims are often shunned or punished by family and friends.

-Because we worry more about the reputation of the rapist than the life of the victim.

-Because Trump can boast about assaulting women and still be elected President of the United States.

[Chernoslavia]

O are you sure about that one, bud?

Ok. Show me somebody who said most right wingers are pedos.

The radical left. Although the right at one point was guilty of this too.

[The Black Forrest]

Ok. Show me somebody who said most right wingers are pedos.

The radical left.

Ok. Please do show a source.

[Chernoslavia]

Lol you're one to talk about deflecting and I'm not trying to answer your question to Big Jim just asking you for evidence that Kavanaugh is guilty. And to no one's surprise you still haven't provided any. So where's your answer to my question?

Big Jim likes tossing comments to try and annoy people.

Your comments are rather ignorant in the matters of sexual assault and trauma. Most women don't report it. Even less men report it.

I think you ought to reread my comments, I didn't question the source on why women don't report it. I am asking for proof that Kavanaugh's guilty of it.

[Chernoslavia]

Big Jim likes tossing comments to try and annoy people.

Your comments are rather ignorant in the matters of sexual assault and trauma. Most women don't report it. Even less men report it.

-Because Trump can boast about assaulting women and still be elected President of the United States.

You really wanna do this again? Ok. Show me evidence of Trump admitted to sexually assaulting a minor. I bet you still won't find anything.

[Kubrath]

You really wanna do this again? Ok. Show me evidence of Trump admitted to sexually assaulting a minor. I bet you still won't find anything.

So it's not enough that he sexually assaulted grown women?

[The Black Forrest]

Big Jim likes tossing comments to try and annoy people.

Your comments are rather ignorant in the matters of sexual assault and trauma. Most women don't report it. Even less men report it.

I think you ought to reread my comments, I didn't question the source on why women don't report it. I am asking for proof that Kavanaugh's guilty of it.

That can be said of any sexual assault. Seriously what evidence would be accepted for this guy? Her claims are being dismissed politically and yet comments from others say a investigation is warranted. A sexual crimes investigator on tv explained why exact details are great but not practical nor expected in such matters. How many people who where assaulted when they were children can give exact proof?

I didn't expect it to happen but I would have been stunned if Kav had said investigate me; I have nothing to hide. They did that for Thomas but this guy is above it all it seems.

[Gravlen]

Big Jim likes tossing comments to try and annoy people.

Your comments are rather ignorant in the matters of sexual assault and trauma. Most women don't report it. Even less men report it.

I think you ought to reread my comments, I didn't question the source on why women don't report it. I am asking for proof that Kavanaugh's guilty of it.

You seem to be saying that law enforcement should investigate the claims...

[Chernoslavia]

You really wanna do this again? Ok. Show me evidence of Trump admitted to sexually assaulting a minor. I bet you still won't find anything.

So it's not enough that he sexually assaulted grown women?

Where's the proof that he assaulted either?

[Chernoslavia]

I think you ought to reread my comments, I didn't question the source on why women don't report it. I am asking for proof that Kavanaugh's guilty of it.

You seem to be saying that law enforcement should investigate the claims...

I didnt mention law enforcement anywhere. I am asking for proof from anybody that he did it. When you accuse someone of doing something as serious as sexually assaulting someone you should prove it. That's how it works!

[Vassenor]

You really wanna do this again? Ok. Show me evidence of Trump admitted to sexually assaulting a minor. I bet you still won't find anything.

...Where from that line did you get "sexually assaulting a minor" anyway?

[Chernoslavia]

I think you ought to reread my comments, I didn't question the source on why women don't report it. I am asking for proof that Kavanaugh's guilty of it.

That can be said of any sexual assault. Seriously what evidence would be accepted for this guy? Her claims are being dismissed politically and yet comments from others say a investigation is warranted. A sexual crimes investigator on tv explained why exact details are great but not practical nor expected in such matters. How many people who where assaulted when they were children can give exact proof?

I didn't expect it to happen but I would have been stunned if Kav had said investigate me; I have nothing to hide. They did that for Thomas but this guy is above it all it seems.

And that's unfortunate, but we can't just jail everyone that gets accused of it, otherwise we'd need to build more prisons. Thankfully in the case of Cosby (still trying to get over that) we were able to get evidence of him getting quaaludes in '05 and him admitting his intentions for those.

[Gravlen]

You seem to be saying that law enforcement should investigate the claims...

I didnt mention law enforcement anywhere. I am asking for proof from anybody that he did it. When you accuse someone of doing something as serious as sexually assaulting someone you should prove it. That's how it works!

Oh? Because, usually, when people accuse others of doing something as serious as sexually assaulting someone law enforcement gets involved. The victim doesn't prove things; that job usually falls to the State.

[Chernoslavia]

You really wanna do this again? Ok. Show me evidence of Trump admitted to sexually assaulting a minor. I bet you still won't find anything.

...Where from that line did you get "sexually assaulting a minor" anyway?

I'll reiterate. Show me proof he admitted to sexually assaulting anyone.

[Fartsniffage]

...Where from that line did you get "sexually assaulting a minor" anyway?

I'll reiterate. Show me proof he admitted to sexually assaulting anyone.

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