Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation Hearing Now with Poll

[Kaggeceria]

Oh, sure they can. They can impeach him and wait to take the Senate and have them remove him.

Come on. Get started on that letter. But we both know you won't because you're a hypocrite.

Now run along.

Ffft. And you're not writing one because you don't really give a shit about Ford supposedly lying now that Brett is in. Besides, weren't you part of the crowd sneering about how the Democrats would actually lose Senate seats Kram?

I wasn't the one demanding letters be written. That was you, sweetheart.

[Kaggeceria]

Clinton has been accused by women of rape. Kirsten Gillibrand says all women should be believed, yet campaigned with Clinton when she ran for the Senate but now apparently she hates him.

This is called a trap.

When you look at Wikipedia, her acceptance of Clinton's support was in 2006 in an entirely different political climate where the Clinton rape stuff has an entirely different meaning to in 2006 (let alone the 1990s).

If your point was just about Lewinsky, people really haven't managed to realise the pointlessness of sex scandals so there's no massive contextual argument being sidestepped (namely you want to argue why the context is irrelevant).

Ah, I see. So essentially she is a political hack, and she only realized rape is bad when it became politically convenient to do so.

Thank you for clarifying.

[Kaggeceria]

Oooh, do explain.

P( H | D ) = P(H) * P( D | H) / P(D)

Wow, very fascinating.

Glad you can prove the reliability of a random internet test.

[Quantipapa]

This is getting unproductive, lads. Take it to PM and fight privately, or with letters.

[Petrasylvania]

Ffft. And you're not writing one because you don't really give a shit about Ford supposedly lying now that Brett is in. Besides, weren't you part of the crowd sneering about how the Democrats would actually lose Senate seats Kram?

I wasn't the one demanding letters be written. That was you, sweetheart.

You're not my type, so don't call me sweetheart. But you were the one raising a stink about Ford lying under oath, which is a crime by the way. It reeks of political convenience that you don't want her nailed on flagrantly breaking a law because Brett's in, unlike the demonstrators that you were fantasizing about brutalizing with rubber bullets (probably at point blank range).

[Forsher]

"I was going to do it anyway!"

"Didn't do anything until being asked to do so and did half the job."

Really credible.

I am not sure if I care if you believe my answers are credible.

If other people are irrelevant, why post on an internet forum. Go find something you might enjoy more like blogging or solitaire.

Nah. This issue between Liriena and I has been resolved,

translation: I said something to which Liriena has not responded.

Silence is difficult to interpret.

so I won’t do that. Especially not appease you, because it would no doubt be longwinded (as opposed to being straight to the point) and boring. Liriena even admitted to using ‘fascist’ incorrectly in the past,

Liriena admitted to applying fascist to figures other people disagreed are fascist but they honestly believed to be fascist (an entirely different scenario to what you accused Liriena of doing).

You believed them and are currently waiting for the follow up statement... the crucial part being "if true," i.e. you're fobbing the burden off to Liriena.

and has been taken to task for it by numerous people, so the issue is familiar to Liriena, and the accusation not uncommon (as I had made the accusation prior to this point). What point would there be in retrieving the evidence? None. Liriena already explained themselves and I dropped the issue afterwards. Seems like a done deal.

i.e. I am capable of writing words which flagrantly misrepresent the past and the language I used, see here for what I actually did:

I am willing to believe you and retract my accusation if true.

translation: if it's true, I will retract my accusation but right now we don't know it's true.

If you forgot that you made this conditional, it would be a good idea to go back and edit the condition out to reflect your true beliefs in this matter.

[Forsher]

This is called a trap.

When you look at Wikipedia, her acceptance of Clinton's support was in 2006 in an entirely different political climate where the Clinton rape stuff has an entirely different meaning to in 2006 (let alone the 1990s).

If your point was just about Lewinsky, people really haven't managed to realise the pointlessness of sex scandals so there's no massive contextual argument being sidestepped (namely you want to argue why the context is irrelevant).

Ah, I see. So essentially she is a political hack, and she only realized rape is bad when it became politically convenient to do so.

Thank you for clarifying.

I bet you believe flip flopping is a meaningful criticism.

[Quantipapa]

So petty.

[Forsher]

P( H | D ) = P(H) * P( D | H) / P(D)

Wow, very fascinating.

Glad you can prove the reliability of a random internet test.

Yes, I thought you were being entirely insincere.

This is called Bayes' Rule.

[Forsher]

So petty.

To what and to whom is your ire so directed?

[Quantipapa]

So petty.

To what and to whom is your ire so directed?

Sorry I should've elaborated. Some of the post confirmation stuff related to this debate.

If I was referring to you I would've quoted you.

[Kaggeceria]

I wasn't the one demanding letters be written. That was you, sweetheart.

You're not my type, so don't call me sweetheart. But you were the one raising a stink about Ford lying under oath, which is a crime by the way. It reeks of political convenience that you don't want her nailed on flagrantly breaking a law because Brett's in, unlike the demonstrators that you were fantasizing about brutalizing with rubber bullets (probably at point blank range).

But it's such a nice name. And I'd prefer to see her prosecuted for false rape accusations, as opposed to merely perjury. But sure, stick that one in there as well.

And continuing to remain somewhere that you are not allowed to be even after being told to leave is a crime, sweetie.

[NS Miami Shores]

Clinton has been accused by women of rape. Kirsten Gillibrand says all women should be believed, yet campaigned with Clinton when she ran for the Senate but now apparently she hates him.

This is called a trap.

When you look at Wikipedia, her acceptance of Clinton's support was in 2006 in an entirely different political climate where the Clinton rape stuff has an entirely different meaning to in 2006 (let alone the 1990s).

If your point was just about Lewinsky, people really haven't managed to realise the pointlessness of sex scandals so there's no massive contextual argument being sidestepped (namely you want to argue why the context is irrelevant).

Note: I don't know how my crazy browser that is crazier than I am, Crazy Cuban, double posted this quote of mine, I don't want to be accused of pic spam again, due to a technical accident, I don't understand, oops, I might have quoted the post twice, lol, by accident not by intent to spam.

I dont know what this back and forth is all about, but as far as Monica Lewinsky and Clinton, President Clinton should never have been impeached by the Republicans, it had nothing to do with governing the nation, she was not a spy for Russia, China or Cuba, yes Cuba like Ana Belén Montes, she was a US Spy for the Cuban government, yes Cuba.

[Kaggeceria]

Ah, I see. So essentially she is a political hack, and she only realized rape is bad when it became politically convenient to do so.

Thank you for clarifying.

I bet you believe flip flopping is a meaningful criticism.

Uh, yes. And I find it odd that you believe saying "they were just flip-flopping" is a meaningful defense.

[Quantipapa]

I bet you believe flip flopping is a meaningful criticism.

Uh, yes. And I find it odd that you believe saying "they were just flip-flopping" is a meaningful defense.

I've already explained earlier that flip flopping is generally an invalid accusation to hurl around

[Petrasylvania]

You're not my type, so don't call me sweetheart. But you were the one raising a stink about Ford lying under oath, which is a crime by the way. It reeks of political convenience that you don't want her nailed on flagrantly breaking a law because Brett's in, unlike the demonstrators that you were fantasizing about brutalizing with rubber bullets (probably at point blank range).

But it's such a nice name. And I'd prefer to see her prosecuted for false rape accusations, as opposed to merely perjury. But sure, stick that one in there as well.

And continuing to remain somewhere that you are not allowed to be even after being told to leave is a crime, sweetie.

Don't call me sweetie either.

[NS Miami Shores]

Clinton has been accused by women of rape. Kirsten Gillibrand says all women should be believed, yet campaigned with Clinton when she ran for the Senate but now apparently she hates him.

This is called a trap.

When you look at Wikipedia, her acceptance of Clinton's support was in 2006 in an entirely different political climate where the Clinton rape stuff has an entirely different meaning to in 2006 (let alone the 1990s).

If your point was just about Lewinsky, people really haven't managed to realise the pointlessness of sex scandals so there's no massive contextual argument being sidestepped (namely you want to argue why the context is irrelevant).

Note: I don't know how my crazy browser that is crazier than I am, Crazy Cuban, double posted this quote of mine, I don't want to be accused of pic spam again, due to a technical accident, I don't understand, oops, I might have quoted the post twice, lol, by accident not by intent to spam.

I dont know what this back and forth is all about, but as far as Monica Lewinsky and Clinton, President Clinton should never have been impeached by the Republicans, it had nothing to do with governing the nation, she was not a spy for Russia, China or Cuba, yes Cuba like Ana Belén Montes, she was a US Spy for the Cuban government, yes Cuba.

[Forsher]

I bet you believe flip flopping is a meaningful criticism.

Uh, yes. And I find it odd that you believe saying "they were just flip-flopping" is a meaningful defense.

See, this is the problem with cute one-liners. I could have elaborated on why your criticism is complete nonsense if you had replied to this line of thought before, but you didn't. And now, as a result, you're left with sufficient evidence to make further cute one-liners.

Mad respect.

There are two problems with flip flopping. Firstly, as new evidence comes to light, opinions should change. For example, it's no longer really tenable to believe that that feathers are a phenomenon unique to birds. For a long time this was the case but for the last 150 years and especially in the last 30 remarkable evidence to the contrary has emerged. Cue the flip flopping. Political examples are obviously more complicated but if you have a political context in mind, I am sure I can explain it to you.

The second problem with flip flopping is that evidence isn't neutral. For example, in the 1990s, attitudes towards sexual assault were entirely difficult. To a large extent, it wasn't perceived of as a problem in the same way as it is now. Even in 2006, how people understood the severity of sexual misconduct is very different to now. This is true of politicians too, not just the electorate. You can't say something like "it is now politically convenient" without understanding that she's not some alien mind impervious to public thought on the matters.

[Infected Mushroom]

Fox News is going NUTS over this Kavenaugh victory.

I'm so entertained right now.

Something about how the Democratic Mob was stopped...

[NS Miami Shores]

The Kavanaugh confirmation thread is full of 4 letter words back and forth, insults, accusations and reporting on each other for anything we can think of, from the right and the left, but mostly from the left, but from both the right and the left, the Mods have never been busier than this before, it makes me sick to see and read the Mod Forum, and tell people this and that is not actionable, and checking the Mod Forum every few minutes to see if I am being accused again unfairly.

I have argued my views on this issue and politics very strongly, but at least I have not used any 4 letter words, insults or reported any one for anything we can think of, like was done to me on this thread unfairly.

[Lamoni]

I'll never stop loving the many deceitful little ways right-wingers abuse language to "subtly" demean their opposition and make themselves look like the smart and mature ones, even though their worldviews, as a general rule of thumb, are the epitome of childishness and lack of intellectual rigour.

I don't hide the fact that I give a shit under layers of fake tough guy performativity. Bite me.

You attack him for using the word "tantrum" by having a tantrum. Well done.

Define childishly and ranting.

See above.

Giving away your own manipulative rhetorical game plan to own the libs lmao

How do you manage to consistently own yourself?

I'm not a leftist. I don't try to hide my intentions behind some cloud of faux moral superiority.

I want to deplatform and marginalize all of you, and then roast marshmallows over a pile of burning pussy hats.

Kaggeceria: *** Official Warning for flaming/flamebaiting. ***

Yeah, you're pretty much confirming my "smear".

How?

"You are being childish and throwing a tantrum!"

"What's childish or tantrum about my post?"

"It's childish and a tantrum because that's what it is!"

"But you haven't actually proven it."

"You're just proving my point."

Somebody in this exchange is genuinely trying to understand. The other is just being dickish.

Childish.

Yes, you are being childish. A grown up would have actually explained himself rather than just constantly repeat "childish" and act like it's "self-evident".

What time is it?

[shrug]

Liriena: *** Official Warning for flamebaiting ***

I highly suggest that the both of you put each other on ignore, before you get more warnings. Got it?

[Vassenor]

Donald Trump was accused of sexual assault and became President of the United States

Brett Kavanagh was accused of sexual assault and became a lifelong judge on the highest court of the nation

If y'all go on about how sexual assault accusations ruin lives, I'm just going to laugh in your face.

[Hirota]

Donald Trump was accused of sexual assault and became President of the United States

Brett Kavanagh was accused of sexual assault and became a lifelong judge on the highest court of the nation

If y'all go on about how sexual assault accusations ruin lives, I'm just going to laugh in your face.

I will quite happily thanks. And I'll laugh at the utter stupidity of using cherrypicking.

[Petrasylvania]

Donald Trump was accused of sexual assault and became President of the United States

Brett Kavanagh was accused of sexual assault and became a lifelong judge on the highest court of the nation

If y'all go on about how sexual assault accusations ruin lives, I'm just going to laugh in your face.

Nowadays they only ruin Democrats.

[NS Miami Shores]

Donald Trump was accused of sexual assault and became President of the United States

Brett Kavanagh was accused of sexual assault and became a lifelong judge on the highest court of the nation

If y'all go on about how sexual assault accusations ruin lives, I'm just going to laugh in your face.

Nowadays they only ruin Democrats.

The Leftist Democratic Party Democrats did it to themselves during this Political Kangaroo Court Trial as I call it, of un proven accusations, calls for criminal charges and calls of impeachment should he be confirmed, and now the Lady wants to drop all charges she cant prove, conveniently after loosing the Confirmation vote, lol.