Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation Hearing Now with Poll

[Jerzyland]

I don’t think Pence is right. There is an unpleasant undercurrent in his statements.

However, current events are making it feel like he was right. Newt told me feelings were as important as facts, though.

I guess that depends on what you're feeling and how inappropriately you're feeling it.

You mean like's Newt's wife feelings when he dumped her while hospitalized for Cancer treatments?

Newt's moon colony feels kinda wrong too.

[Ifreann]

But it is. And Pence is right. Being alone with a woman who you aren’t married to is dangerous these days. Ironically the Me too movement has set women’s rights back.

Women and people at-large cant talk about sexual assault because then it'll actually be worse for everyone, some how.

Got it.

If women can talk openly about harassment and assault, then employers will have to deal with the HR problems that come from women being harassed and assaulted in the workplace. Employers don't want to do that, so they'll just stop hiring women, and that's bad for women.

Now you might say, "Iffy, isn't it desirable for employers to deal with harassment and assault in the workplace so that it will stop happening? And isn't it entirely possible for men to harass and assault other men?", to which I would respond "FEMINISM DESTROYED ITSELF, TRUMP 2020!"

[Mardla]

Lol not sure how one woman's lone accusation from many decades ago is comparable.

Maryland doesn't have a statue of limitations.

But I doubt courts credit accusations which refuse to take the oath.

[Jerzyland]

Word is McConnell had wished for a different nominee than Kavanaugh. That taken with Trump's lack of a firebrand defense of Kavanaugh's nomination yesterday suggests he's open to withdrawing the Kavanaugh nomination if the hearing Monday doesn't go swimmingly.

Trump is likely making a political calculation for the upcoming midterms. He has a lemon with Kavanaugh. Why not make Lemonade? Trump may be able to use this situation to cleverly gain marginal ground with women in red states for the midterms. He can always nominate another Heritage Foundation approved judge for SCOTUS. Even a woman.

[The Black Forrest]

Maryland doesn't have a statue of limitations.

But I doubt courts credit accusations which refuse to take the oath.

Who said she wasn't?

[Mardla]

But I doubt courts credit accusations which refuse to take the oath.

Who said she wasn't?

She hasn't responded to requests thus far

[Petrasylvania]

I guess that depends on what you're feeling and how inappropriately you're feeling it.

You mean like's Newt's wife feelings when he dumped her while hospitalized for Cancer treatments?

Newt's moon colony feels kinda wrong too.

He imagined himself alone with a harem of nubile young women in a colony after watching Moonraker.

[Petrasylvania]

Who said she wasn't?

She hasn't responded to requests thus far

Oh right, sexual assault charges are like Domino's Pizza. 30 minutes or less or you're free.

[Fartsniffage]

Who said she wasn't?

She hasn't responded to requests thus far

It's been like 15 hours since the re-opening was even announced. Give her a minute.

[Jerzyland]

You mean like's Newt's wife feelings when he dumped her while hospitalized for Cancer treatments?

Newt's moon colony feels kinda wrong too.

He imagined himself alone with a harem of nubile young women in a colony after watching Moonraker.

With a 40 year supply of Viagra.

She hasn't responded to requests thus far

Oh right, sexual assault charges are like Domino's Pizza. 30 monutes or less or you're free.

Only if you order with double anchovies. The smell makes the court system wanna bury it.

[Tarsonis]

Lol not sure how one woman's lone accusation from many decades ago is comparable.

Maryland doesn't have a statue of limitations.

Doesn’t really matter if there’s no statue of limitations, accussing someone of something they did 37 years ago, with no tangible evidence or corroboration is pretty much a baseless assertion as far as the law is concerned. There’s no way to verify this without new evidence, and an investigation isn’t going to turn up new evidence because the alleged incident was nearly 40 years ago.

[Grinning Dragon]

She hasn't responded to requests thus far

It's been like 15 hours since the re-opening was even announced. Give her a minute.

36 hours and have sent emails and made phone calls to the accuser/lawyer and no reply as of yet.

[The Black Forrest]

Maryland doesn't have a statue of limitations.

Doesn’t really matter if there’s no statue of limitations, accussing someone of something they did 37 years ago, with no tangible evidence or corroboration is pretty much a baseless assertion as far as the law is concerned. There’s no way to verify this without new evidence, and an investigation isn’t going to turn up new evidence because the alleged incident was nearly 40 years ago.

She hasn't even spoken yet. Let's see what she says.

[Shofercia]

RIP feminism. This imbecility will be another nail in equality's timely coffin.

Right, how dare we take rape victims seriously.

She didn't even claim to be raped. FFS Vass, you're just throwing everything out there, desperately hoping that something will stick.

But it is. And Pence is right. Being alone with a woman who you aren’t married to is dangerous these days. Ironically the Me too movement has set women’s rights back.

Women and people at-large cant talk about sexual assault because then it'll actually be worse for everyone, some how.

Got it.

You're not supposed to politicize those accusations. Senator Feinstein had the memo, and yet she sat on it, until the very last moment, thus politicizing it. The memo should've been presented at the hearing. That said, the action was the Senator's fault, and arguably her staffers, not the alleged victim's.

[Telconi]

Right, how dare we take rape victims seriously.

She didn't even claim to be raped. FFS Vass, you're just throwing everything out there, desperately hoping that something will stick.

Women and people at-large cant talk about sexual assault because then it'll actually be worse for everyone, some how.

Got it.

You're not supposed to politicize those accusations. Senator Feinstein had the memo, and yet she sat on it, until the very last moment, thus politicizing it. The memo should've been presented at the hearing. That said, the action was the Senator's fault, and arguably her staffers, not the alleged victim's.

Feinstein, milking something to further her political ambitions? Say it ain't so!!!

[Shofercia]

She didn't even claim to be raped. FFS Vass, you're just throwing everything out there, desperately hoping that something will stick.




You're not supposed to politicize those accusations. Senator Feinstein had the memo, and yet she sat on it, until the very last moment, thus politicizing it. The memo should've been presented at the hearing. That said, the action was the Senator's fault, and arguably her staffers, not the alleged victim's.

Feinstein, milking something to further her political ambitions? Say it ain't so!!!

Nah, it's more of her attempting to superimpose her morality on the rest of us. She's going to be reelected, simply because she makes Democrats looks like jackasses, and Republicans in California love that, so they'll vote for her over her fellow Democrat, Kevin De Leon, who might actually be effective. She's old, met her political ambitions, so now it's just a matter of telling us all how to live free enslaved to her ideology, or die hard. Six more years, and then we won't have to pretend to tolerate most of her bullshit.

[Telconi]

Feinstein, milking something to further her political ambitions? Say it ain't so!!!

Nah, it's more of her attempting to superimpose her morality on the rest of us. She's going to be reelected, simply because she makes Democrats looks like jackasses, and Republicans in California love that, so they'll vote for her over her fellow Democrat, Kevin De Leon, who might actually be effective. She's old, met her political ambitions, so now it's just a matter of telling us all how to live free enslaved to her ideology, or die hard. Six more years, and then we won't have to pretend to tolerate most of her bullshit.

DeLeon is worse, in literally every way.

[Shofercia]

Nah, it's more of her attempting to superimpose her morality on the rest of us. She's going to be reelected, simply because she makes Democrats looks like jackasses, and Republicans in California love that, so they'll vote for her over her fellow Democrat, Kevin De Leon, who might actually be effective. She's old, met her political ambitions, so now it's just a matter of telling us all how to live free enslaved to her ideology, or die hard. Six more years, and then we won't have to pretend to tolerate most of her bullshit.

DeLeon is worse, in literally every way.

For you, yes. For the Democratic Party - nope. But he ran too early, and thus ended his political career. He'll lose the Senate Race and exit stage left. He should've ran for county supervisor, or attempted to use his clout to get East LA Incorporated and serve as its mayor, to delay his Senate run until 2024. Also, he should've attempted to reach across the aisle. He might make a comeback, but chances of that are slight. In the words of Oliver Queen, "Kevin De Leon, you have failed this city your political career!"

[Paddy O Fernature]

Nah, it's more of her attempting to superimpose her morality on the rest of us. She's going to be reelected, simply because she makes Democrats looks like jackasses, and Republicans in California love that, so they'll vote for her over her fellow Democrat, Kevin De Leon, who might actually be effective. She's old, met her political ambitions, so now it's just a matter of telling us all how to live free enslaved to her ideology, or die hard. Six more years, and then we won't have to pretend to tolerate most of her bullshit.

DeLeon is worse, in literally every way.

Quite literally, the world would be a better place if these two clowns fell off the face of the Earth and were never heard from again.

[Jerzylvania]

Doesn’t really matter if there’s no statue of limitations, accussing someone of something they did 37 years ago, with no tangible evidence or corroboration is pretty much a baseless assertion as far as the law is concerned. There’s no way to verify this without new evidence, and an investigation isn’t going to turn up new evidence because the alleged incident was nearly 40 years ago.

She hasn't even spoken yet. Let's see what she says.

That cat doesn't seem interested at getting to the truth on this particular occasion. He keeps pretending we're hiring an assistant manager at Arby's or maybe Walmart. In that case, sure, overlook it and nobody would argue because your pool of available excellent choice people may not be much.

But the bar for SCOTUS appointment is steeply higher and there are many highly qualified candidates that don't have the problems Kavanaugh has. Time for POTUS to save himself the trouble and move on from this flawed nominee.

[Paddy O Fernature]

She hasn't even spoken yet. Let's see what she says.

That cat doesn't seem interested at getting to the truth on this particular occasion. He keeps pretending we're hiring an assistant manager at Arby's or maybe Walmart. In that case, sure, overlook it and nobody would argue because your pool of available excellent choice people may not be much.

But the bar for SCOTUS appointment is steeply higher and there are many highly qualified candidates that don't have the problems Kavanaugh has. Time for POTUS to save himself the trouble and move on from this flawed nominee.

Yeah, cause who needs or even wants actual evidence before passing judgement against someone, right?

*Nod Nod*

[Shofercia]

DeLeon is worse, in literally every way.

Quite literally, the world would be a better place if these two clowns fell off the face of the Earth and were never heard from again.

In his defense, one of the reasons that DeLeon came to power, was because no one else gave a fuck about East LA. It's the same scenario that we've seen with the Rust Belt States. Don't want politicians like DeLeon in power? Find someone to give a genuine shit about East LA.

[Farnhamia]

Quite literally, the world would be a better place if these two clowns fell off the face of the Earth and were never heard from again.

In his defense, one of the reasons that DeLeon came to power, was because no one else gave a fuck about East LA. It's the same scenario that we've seen with the Rust Belt States. Don't want politicians like DeLeon in power? Find someone to give a genuine shit about East LA.

But you digress.

[Tarsonis]

She hasn't even spoken yet. Let's see what she says.

That cat doesn't seem interested at getting to the truth on this particular occasion.

Oh my sweet summer kettle...

He keeps pretending we're hiring an assistant manager at Arby's or maybe Walmart. In that case, sure, overlook it and nobody would argue because your pool of available excellent choice people may not be much.

But the bar for SCOTUS appointment is steeply higher and there are many highly qualified candidates that don't have the problems Kavanaugh has. Time for POTUS to save himself the trouble and move on from this flawed nominee.

Ahahaha, this has nothing to do with the level of appointment. You say I'm not interested in truth, but that's the funny thing, that's all that interests me. There's categorically no way of proving these allegations true. Perhaps she testifies, and perhaps she gives a very moving account of what happened to her, and yes perhaps Kavanaugh guilty. There's only one problem, there's no way to prove that.. There's no way to corroborate the accusations she's making. There's no witnesses by her own admission, there's not going to be any physical evidence 37 years after the fact, and again, by her own admission, theres nothing on record even relating to this incident prior to 2012.

These accusations cannot be corroborated, one way or the other. Which means the accused get's the benefit of the doubt. Welcome to American Legalism 101. In the case of the SCOTUS appointment, because they cannot be corroborated, they don't actually speak to the Character of Kavanaugh, not with any sort of merit. And here's the kicker, it's important that they don't affect the process. If they do affect the process, it sets precedent that so long as someone levels the most baseless accusations against someone, the minority can delay the appointment of any person to any position that they don't want. It lowers the level of process in our Republic the point where were destroying peoples careers, just to make sure our opposition can't fill the position they want to.



You keep saying I'm not interested in truth, but you're off the mark. The difference between you and me is you've already accepted the accusations as true, and I see no reason to take them seriously unless actual evidence can be presented. I'm also betting that you don't actually care to ponder if they're true accusations or not, but you latched on to them because of your anti-trumpian stance. You don't like Trump, thus you don't like Kavanaugh, thus you'll readily accept any accusation no matter how flimsy because it works toward your particular stance. You're not interested in truth, you're interested in your agenda. You act like the republicans are putting up a convicted rapist, because in your mind you've already convicted him, without any evidence, without any due process, without any justification, beyond the fact that you simply don't want him to be on the Court, and then you look down your nose at those of us who haven't followed along. Of course you say we're willingly turning a blind eye to a rapist, because he's already guilty in your eyes and you see all.



And just in case you doubt my intention, I actually don't give a shit if Kavanaugh get's confirmed. He never should have gotten the nom in the first place in my opinion. Amy Barret is who should have gotten it.

[The Black Forrest]

That cat doesn't seem interested at getting to the truth on this particular occasion. He keeps pretending we're hiring an assistant manager at Arby's or maybe Walmart. In that case, sure, overlook it and nobody would argue because your pool of available excellent choice people may not be much.

But the bar for SCOTUS appointment is steeply higher and there are many highly qualified candidates that don't have the problems Kavanaugh has. Time for POTUS to save himself the trouble and move on from this flawed nominee.

Yeah, cause who needs or even wants actual evidence before passing judgement against someone, right?

*Nod Nod*

Indeed. Moore showed evidence wasn't necessary for many people.

The problem for Kav was the way he handled himself. Detailed responses for the superfluous questions and vague non-answers for the important stuff. Why would people take him at his word? Especially if they don't know him and donnie wanted him?

Her claims and description warrant a look. What she has to say could bring charges from the state; well....if the DA isn't a trumper.