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What political ideology do you identify as?

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How do you identify politically?

Anarchist
34
5%
Communist
46
7%
Socialist
58
9%
Social Democrat
79
12%
Liberal
60
9%
Centrist
69
11%
Conservative
117
18%
Fascist
44
7%
National Socialist
18
3%
Other
121
19%
 
Total votes : 646

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Victoria I Penetravir
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Postby Victoria I Penetravir » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:53 pm

Proletarian Republic of Americanada wrote:
Victoria I Penetravir wrote:"Capitalists merely distrust the ability of communism to deliver on its material objectives; we despise communism for being devoid of spiritual objectives."
- Aryanism.net, National Socialism and Communism

Communists acknowledge that the conditions for communism do not exist yet which is why every communist government has called itself "socialist." As for spiritual objectives I don't quite know what you mean. Religious objectives?

No - National Socialism is about spiritual struggle - fallen into depravity.
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Postby Joohan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:55 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Joohan wrote:I am not sure what my ideology is called. Perhaps someone has the right word?

I believe that Christianity is the foundation of society, and that all policy decisions and goals kept in mind by the nation should be in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and the church. I believe that an authoritarian executive ( not an absolute one however ), is necessary to ensure legislative efficiency and stop any political deadlock. I believe that the nation and the collective should be lauded above the individual. I believe that the economy should be thought of an organized as a tool for society - the state intervening when ever necessary on behalf of the nation. I believe that consumerism is a literal cancer which eats away at the health and beauty of the Earth, and should be removed to ensure the peace, security, and prosperity of future generations. I believe that human struggle and adventure are integral to a proper and well lived life. I believe that immigration should be used as a tool for the betterment of the nation, the same with trade. I despise political parties, and would mandate that every politician lead as independents if I could. I believe that citizenship should be earned, and that voting isn't for everyone.

what would you call this?

Idk, Christian monarchy? But why shouldn't everyone vote and what do you mean by citizenship being earned?


I don't think that people who are ignorant of the political system should have a say in who runs the system. Like having a 15 year old pick out their own car insurance policy. I think that if an individual want's a say in their nation's political affairs, they must demonstrate not only knowledge of how it works, but also a dedicated loyalty to it's success.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:56 pm

Joohan wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Idk, Christian monarchy? But why shouldn't everyone vote and what do you mean by citizenship being earned?


I don't think that people who are ignorant of the political system should have a say in who runs the system. Like having a 15 year old pick out their own car insurance policy. I think that if an individual want's a say in their nation's political affairs, they must demonstrate not only knowledge of how it works, but also a dedicated loyalty to it's success.

Ok. And what do you mean by citizenship being earned?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Joohan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:58 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I don't think that people who are ignorant of the political system should have a say in who runs the system. Like having a 15 year old pick out their own car insurance policy. I think that if an individual want's a say in their nation's political affairs, they must demonstrate not only knowledge of how it works, but also a dedicated loyalty to it's success.

Ok. And what do you mean by citizenship being earned?


I think some kind of qualifications should be met. Military service, creating a minimum number of long term jobs, producing children, providing an education for nationals, etc. You should provide your nation with something, I believe, before being rewarded with the full privileges of 1st class citizenship
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Postby Tretiy Rim » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:59 pm

Victoria I Penetravir wrote:([url=https://i.imgur.com/2tfcJeC.jpg]Image)[/url]

Want to know what's more than just voting?


Mob rule brings anarchy, not order. Democracy is the death of nations.

Victoria I Penetravir wrote:"Capitalists merely distrust the ability of communism to deliver on its material objectives; we despise communism for being devoid of spiritual objectives."
- Aryanism.net, National Socialism and Communism

Yes, you may say socialism delivers material objectives, but my definition of socialism is more than just proletarian struggle: it is self-sacrifice as opposed to Marxian theories.


Nazism is more materialist than Communism. Espousing genetic superiority over other people is pretty materialist.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:00 pm

Joohan wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Ok. And what do you mean by citizenship being earned?


I think some kind of qualifications should be met. Military service, creating a minimum number of long term jobs, producing children, providing an education for nationals, etc. You should provide your nation with something, I believe, before being rewarded with the full privileges of 1st class citizenship

So do people still have rights? Are they treated differently from 1st class citizens?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:00 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I don't think that people who are ignorant of the political system should have a say in who runs the system. Like having a 15 year old pick out their own car insurance policy. I think that if an individual want's a say in their nation's political affairs, they must demonstrate not only knowledge of how it works, but also a dedicated loyalty to it's success.

Ok. And what do you mean by citizenship being earned?


This brings to mind the notion of the citizen-subject divide. Even if citizens and subjects are entitled to (mostly) the same rights, citizens differ from subjects in that they may participate in the affairs of a republic. A possible means of implementing this is an examination (or set of exams) to see if the individual is mentally competent and understands the responsibilities of citizenship.
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Postby Joohan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:01 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I think some kind of qualifications should be met. Military service, creating a minimum number of long term jobs, producing children, providing an education for nationals, etc. You should provide your nation with something, I believe, before being rewarded with the full privileges of 1st class citizenship

So do people still have rights? Are they treated differently from 1st class citizens?


Everyone still has equal protection under the law, of course. But 1st class citizens would have the privileges of being able to vote and run for office.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:02 pm

Joohan wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So do people still have rights? Are they treated differently from 1st class citizens?


Everyone still has equal protection under the law, of course. But 1st class citizens would have the privileges of being able to vote and run for office.

Ok.

You said that the nation should follow the Bible. But will those who don't follow the Bible still be able to practice their religion freely and fully?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Joohan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:05 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Everyone still has equal protection under the law, of course. But 1st class citizens would have the privileges of being able to vote and run for office.

Ok.

You said that the nation should follow the Bible. But will those who don't follow the Bible still be able to practice their religion freely and fully?


Of course. A mosque, for example, will still be allowed to hold all it's services, and their followers will not be molested by authorities. But the state will favor teachings and messages explicit throughout the christian faith.
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Postby Proletarian Republic of Americanada » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:06 pm

Victoria I Penetravir wrote:
Proletarian Republic of Americanada wrote:Communists acknowledge that the conditions for communism do not exist yet which is why every communist government has called itself "socialist." As for spiritual objectives I don't quite know what you mean. Religious objectives?

No - National Socialism is about spiritual struggle - fallen into depravity.

Ah yes they always claim that society and culture are falling apart around them. This idea is nothing new though and is simply a reaction by people as the world continues to change. Communism is about allowing everyone to be free to develop themselves as an individual without being alienated from their labor. Of course this alienation cannot fully go away until most human labor becomes automated. But at least a socialist country recognizes that this alienation exists and tries to work toward a freer society despite the limitations of their conditions. In a capitalist country automation will only benefit those who own the means of production and will create mass unemployment and starvation for everyone else. In a socialist country automation can instead be utilized to make everyone more free from the labor that binds them.
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Postby Greater White America » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:06 pm

National Socialist, obviously.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:07 pm

Joohan wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Ok.

You said that the nation should follow the Bible. But will those who don't follow the Bible still be able to practice their religion freely and fully?


Of course. A mosque, for example, will still be allowed to hold all it's services, and their followers will not be molested by authorities. But the state will favor teachings and messages explicit throughout the christian faith.

Can we have Shari'ah tho? ;)
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:12 pm

Tretiy Rim wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:I’m as of yet somewhat unsure... my ideal government would likely be a mildly-authoritarian technocratic state, which would support a social order in which altruism would be rewarded and radical selfishness punished. I believe that the almighty power of the state should be used to promote the common good, and rehabilitative justice should be used to reform criminals and evildoers. That makes at least some sense, right? :unsure:


Fascism. You're thinking of Fascism.


A possibility, but still somewhat off. I'm also convinced that an electronically-enabled direct democracy would be the best system in the near future, i.e. where citizens use computer networks to vote directly on most matters regarding the state. It'd still be authoritarian by modern American standards, due to an emphasis on the collective weal, not to mention maintaining public order, as opposed to the mass disorder spawned by radical individualism, but nevertheless democratic, you know?
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Postby Joohan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:14 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Of course. A mosque, for example, will still be allowed to hold all it's services, and their followers will not be molested by authorities. But the state will favor teachings and messages explicit throughout the christian faith.

Can we have Shari'ah tho? ;)


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Postby Veroza » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:17 pm

TESTTEST wrote:Christian (Anarchism)
I advocate the following kind of society:
1. a decentralized federation of local, religious communes (no larger than a few hundred, or a thousand at the most- not a city but a neighborhood or a single block)
2. in deep, spiritual, voluntary association and cooperation with one another based upon the principal of unity in Christ. Not related to one another hierarchically, (including economic hierarchy and cultural hierarchy) and not compelled to associate with one another through violence
3. fundamentally founded on the principle of koinonia, which is to say, mutual participation. This is the highest form of inclusion, unity, equality, democracy, Christian charity, and communist mutual aid. It must be the the guiding principle within the local commune, wherever communes work together, and between the commune and the outcasts in other societies with whom they voluntarily associate.
4. not founded on representative democracy, but rather, direct democracy,
5. in each of which all property is held in common by the whole commune, according to the principle from each according to their ability, to each according to their need,
6. operating not according to hierarchy but according to radical egalitarianism, not appointing spiritual leaders but recognizing the importance of the distinctive contributions of all ages and kinds of life experience, not vesting authority in any person.
7. using restorative justice rather than retributive systems of justice,
8. believing in the full equality of all genders and sexualities in keeping with the principle "in Christ there is no male nor female",
9. giving so much to those outside the commune that those within it live at the same level as the poorest in the surrounding society; or, using no more than they need and giving away the rest.
10. avoiding cults of personality, in keeping with the principle "call no one teacher, for you have one teacher."
11. having a radical ethic of nonviolence which refuses even to judge or condemn, but insists on doing good even for evil people, and which maintains a sense of proportion in opposing not just riots but also violent systems, and unbearable conditions that make riots inevitable,
12. placing a high degree of value on human life,
13. rejecting racism and casteism, opposing racial and ethnic segregation and affirming that the same principle of unity in Christ is meant to apply across races and ethnicities in keeping with in Christ there is no Jew nor Greek.
14. opposing ableism in three key ways: first, by the principle of non-judgment, which makes life bearable for the mentally ill, second, by embracing neither primitivism nor transhumanism, both are which are harmful to the disabled, and third, by practicing anarcho-communism rather than anarcho-collectivism: not replicating the wage system, but appreciating the different kinds of contributions that different kinds of minds and bodies are suited for,
15. striving to practice monogamy, but being understanding and kind to those who for various reasons fail to meet this goal rather than sanctioning them (consider both Jesus' teachings on divorce and his response to the woman caught in adultery)
16. rejecting egoism in favor of compassion, rejecting both individualism and collectivism in favor of communitarianism,
17. rejecting national identity and national borders,
18. refusing to work with or support the institutions of prisons, police, mental institutions, states and their courts and militaries.


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Postby Soyuz Mladorrosov » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:29 pm

Joohan wrote:I am not sure what my ideology is called. Perhaps someone has the right word?

I believe that Christianity is the foundation of society, and that all policy decisions and goals kept in mind by the nation should be in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and the church. I believe that an authoritarian executive ( not an absolute one however ), is necessary to ensure legislative efficiency and stop any political deadlock. I believe that the nation and the collective should be lauded above the individual. I believe that the economy should be thought of an organized as a tool for society - the state intervening when ever necessary on behalf of the nation. I believe that consumerism is a literal cancer which eats away at the health and beauty of the Earth, and should be removed to ensure the peace, security, and prosperity of future generations. I believe that human struggle and adventure are integral to a proper and well lived life. I believe that immigration should be used as a tool for the betterment of the nation, the same with trade. I despise political parties, and would mandate that every politician lead as independents if I could. I believe that citizenship should be earned, and that voting isn't for everyone.

what would you call this?

Look up Dominionism, it's a Christian ideology that wants to make a state, a pseudo-theocracy even, aligned to the teachings of Christianity and would probably be authoritarian.
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Postby US-SSR » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:53 pm

Othelos wrote:Why end capitalism?


Capitalism = rule by those who control capital. Everything is a commodity for sale. The worker has only his or her labor to sell; since this is not "capital" it sells at a discount with the surplus (value produced by labor - value of wage) going to the capitalist class. Inequality under capitalism is not a bug, it is a feature. And international inequality is not significantly improving and, under capitalism, never will.

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Postby US-SSR » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:58 pm

Joohan wrote:I am not sure what my ideology is called. Perhaps someone has the right word?

I believe that Christianity is the foundation of society, and that all policy decisions and goals kept in mind by the nation should be in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and the church. I believe that an authoritarian executive ( not an absolute one however ), is necessary to ensure legislative efficiency and stop any political deadlock. I believe that the nation and the collective should be lauded above the individual. I believe that the economy should be thought of an organized as a tool for society - the state intervening when ever necessary on behalf of the nation. I believe that consumerism is a literal cancer which eats away at the health and beauty of the Earth, and should be removed to ensure the peace, security, and prosperity of future generations. I believe that human struggle and adventure are integral to a proper and well lived life. I believe that immigration should be used as a tool for the betterment of the nation, the same with trade. I despise political parties, and would mandate that every politician lead as independents if I could. I believe that citizenship should be earned, and that voting isn't for everyone.

what would you call this?


Fascism.
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It is a slaughter and not just a political dispute.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:04 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Joohan wrote:I am not sure what my ideology is called. Perhaps someone has the right word?

I believe that Christianity is the foundation of society, and that all policy decisions and goals kept in mind by the nation should be in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and the church. I believe that an authoritarian executive ( not an absolute one however ), is necessary to ensure legislative efficiency and stop any political deadlock. I believe that the nation and the collective should be lauded above the individual. I believe that the economy should be thought of an organized as a tool for society - the state intervening when ever necessary on behalf of the nation. I believe that consumerism is a literal cancer which eats away at the health and beauty of the Earth, and should be removed to ensure the peace, security, and prosperity of future generations. I believe that human struggle and adventure are integral to a proper and well lived life. I believe that immigration should be used as a tool for the betterment of the nation, the same with trade. I despise political parties, and would mandate that every politician lead as independents if I could. I believe that citizenship should be earned, and that voting isn't for everyone.

what would you call this?


Fascism.

“These things I do not like are fascism!” Literally nothing he described goes with the traditional definition of fascism.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:17 pm

Dont have one. I have given up on politics, but I will vote GOP.
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Postby Great Solordia » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:30 pm

I identify as a young-earth-creationist-pentecostal-protestant-christian-conservative, who hates it when kiddos play bad modern music thats 99% autotune.
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Postby US-SSR » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:35 pm

Joohan wrote:I am not sure what my ideology is called. Perhaps someone has the right word?

I believe that Christianity is the foundation of society, and that all policy decisions and goals kept in mind by the nation should be in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and the church. I believe that an authoritarian executive ( not an absolute one however ), is necessary to ensure legislative efficiency and stop any political deadlock. I believe that the nation and the collective should be lauded above the individual. I believe that the economy should be thought of an organized as a tool for society - the state intervening when ever necessary on behalf of the nation. I believe that consumerism is a literal cancer which eats away at the health and beauty of the Earth, and should be removed to ensure the peace, security, and prosperity of future generations. I believe that human struggle and adventure are integral to a proper and well lived life. I believe that immigration should be used as a tool for the betterment of the nation, the same with trade. I despise political parties, and would mandate that every politician lead as independents if I could. I believe that citizenship should be earned, and that voting isn't for everyone.

what would you call this?


Luminesa wrote:“These things I do not like are fascism!” Literally nothing he described goes with the traditional definition of fascism.


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Postby Mardla » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:01 pm

Luminesa wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
Fascism.

“These things I do not like are fascism!” Literally nothing he described goes with the traditional definition of fascism.

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