NFL Thread v2: The 2020 NFL Season!

[Jerzyland]

Oh that's 100%. Oddly enough I don't quite feel the same way towards the Colts and I actually like Houston.

But in Cutler's defense, he did play through diabetes(or something, but I think that's right), in his rookie year that completely sapped him of his physical strength.

As for Bortles, I think the winning casts a rose-tinted view on him. I'd be happy if the Jags stuck with him for another 10 years, because I think he sucks, and I watched him, in person, throw the Titans into the playoffs last season. But once the team's winning, people like the quarterback, which is odd, but whatever.

Because as we said before, it's not all about stats. I'd rather have Bortles and win than, say, Philip Rivers and lose. Ultimately, if you're doing enough to win, you're doing enough. You don't have to be MVP-caliber to get the job done.

Back when Cutler was at Denver, there was this one memorable game up there versus the Chargers. Somewhere in the early second half Cutler and Rivers started barking at each other. Rivers was leaving the field as the punt team came on. Cutlers started yelling some trash talk from the Bronco sideline. Rivers stopped and began shouting back. This exchangewent on long enough for the cameramen to zoom in on them and the commentators noted the incident. It went on a while longer, even after Rivers was over standing on the sideline, yellings. He was seriously pissed at whatever JC was saying. Later in the game they were still yelling at each other at times, it was mad. I'd never seen anything like it, for it's length. Rivers won the game and had the last laugh. For Cutler, it was a sign that this guy doesn't know when to shut up, even in his own locker room. IMO, Jerk Cutler is the worst QB primadonna since the merger. Easily worse than Dan Marino.

[Ameriganastan]

IMO, Jerk Cutler is the worst QB primadonna since the merger. Easily worse than Dan Marino.

Amen. Little bitch boy blows a 3 game division lead after saying he's better than Elway, then runs off to Chicago when it blew up in his face.

[Jerzyland]

I mean Pitt should’ve paid him. He’s 100% in the right here. He obviously doesn’t like sitting. Nobody does. But you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. Are those guys your teammates? Yeah. But hell, there’s no loyalty in pro sports, and he’s 100% right. The Steelers know they have one more year of him left, and they’d have run him into the ground.

"In the right." Lolnope. Remember how this started as negotiation for a longterm contract? Not the Steelers' fault he's an unreasonable, greedy little jerk. "Doing what's best for him and his family" rings a little hollow when it's a matter of how many millions he's making. The worst case scenario is still more money per year than I'll probably see in my lifetime. Giving in to these drama queen players who make everything about themselves and don't give one shit about football? That's not how the Steelers operate, and I hope it never is.

LeVeon Bell cannot leave Pittsburgh soon enough. I pity the team that's willing to cave in and pay him the salary he's asking. I honestly hope no one does. At this point, I don't even want that loser on the field after the bye week. Just get him gone ASAP. Good riddance in advance for whenever he's not our problem anymore.

I wonder what the O-line thinks of him at this point, ya know, just going for himself. Does this idiot think they'll not think of something, or whoever on the coaching staff?
There's clearly a lot of ill will built up here over Bell. I believe that game is at Baltimore. Just the team you don't want to see your blockers less than enthusiastic. Steelers should ditch him. Primadonnas just kill football teams from within.

[Idzequitch]

"In the right." Lolnope. Remember how this started as negotiation for a longterm contract? Not the Steelers' fault he's an unreasonable, greedy little jerk. "Doing what's best for him and his family" rings a little hollow when it's a matter of how many millions he's making. The worst case scenario is still more money per year than I'll probably see in my lifetime. Giving in to these drama queen players who make everything about themselves and don't give one shit about football? That's not how the Steelers operate, and I hope it never is.

LeVeon Bell cannot leave Pittsburgh soon enough. I pity the team that's willing to cave in and pay him the salary he's asking. I honestly hope no one does. At this point, I don't even want that loser on the field after the bye week. Just get him gone ASAP. Good riddance in advance for whenever he's not our problem anymore.

Don’t give one shit about football? Not to be rude, but that’s one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever seen. These guys are busting their asses, day in and day out, and if they didn’t care, then they wouldn’t still be in the league. You don’t have the success as a player that he’s had if you don’t care, and that’s facts. Everyone in that league is passionate about the game of football, or they pretty quickly fall out of relevance, and the league.

Secondly, okay, that would make some sense at almost any other position, but Le’Veon is a running back, and arguably the best in the NFL(I certainly think so). Look at Demario Murray. He failed to set himself up financially, and the touches caught up with him really quick. Hell, I think he was 29 when he retired. Le’Veon is making a smart play by not only preserving his body in order to prolong his career, but making sure he gets paid what he thinks he’s worth. He doesn’t want to burn out at 28 years old.

And the way the Steelers operate? Yes, but that’s a completely different view of it. The Steelers, in general, don’t pay their premier guys the money they deserve. Antonio Brown is really the only exception I’ve found to this rule.

Finally, once again, this isn’t high school or college. In the NFL, NBA, etc, loyalty to your team means virtually nothing. Because the team holds all the power. So why would Le’Veon take a contract, a one year deal, mind you, that gives him no security whatsoever and puts his body on the line for a team that he’s seen isn’t willing to give him any sort of future security? Look at Earl Thomas. Same thing there.

Rather than say “he doesn’t care about football,” “he’s a greedy little pig,” or “he’s making more money per year than I will in my lifetime,” (again, so does every good player in the NFL. So why don’t we just cap the salary at 5 mil per year?) let’s look at it from his view here. I mean damn, this will probably get him another year or two of elite production, and with a team that is willing to give him some financial security, and he’s going to be much better off for it, on and off the field.

Sure. Riding a jetski and making rap albums while his team is working their tails off. He's really busting his ass

Look, I'll admit that I wrote that while a bit angry and it was uncharacteristically aggressive and over the top. But the overarching point still stands. If you're reasonably good at budgeting, $14M per year should be enough to live comfortably for a long time, even if you only play two or three years. This guy has made it abundantly clear that this is about the paychecks and nothing but the paychecks. Talent is wasted on the narcissist.

Did you miss the part where Pittsburgh wanted to sign him to a long-term contract? And a pretty dang lucrative one too. You have to understand this goes both ways. RB's fall off the top tier in a snap. Look at AP, Shaun Alexander, Larry Johnson, or even DeMarco Murray. Long term contracts to RB's are a risky proposition. As you say, there's no loyalty in football, and the Steelers can't mortgage the future for a guy who may or may not stay elite a long time. Even you admit that he only probably has another year or two of elite production in him. So why pay him outlandish money for the next five?

[Jerzyland]

IMO, Jerk Cutler is the worst QB primadonna since the merger. Easily worse than Dan Marino.

Amen. Little bitch boy blows a 3 game division lead after saying he's better than Elway, then runs off to Chicago when it blew up in his face.

Cutler and Rivers go at it
Apparently they blamed Rivers for starting this and it occurred middle of the fourth quarter of a 23-3 Broncos loss. However, in retrospect, you know that Cutler somehow precipitated it. Rivers is still with the Chargers.

[Idzequitch]

"In the right." Lolnope. Remember how this started as negotiation for a longterm contract? Not the Steelers' fault he's an unreasonable, greedy little jerk. "Doing what's best for him and his family" rings a little hollow when it's a matter of how many millions he's making. The worst case scenario is still more money per year than I'll probably see in my lifetime. Giving in to these drama queen players who make everything about themselves and don't give one shit about football? That's not how the Steelers operate, and I hope it never is.

LeVeon Bell cannot leave Pittsburgh soon enough. I pity the team that's willing to cave in and pay him the salary he's asking. I honestly hope no one does. At this point, I don't even want that loser on the field after the bye week. Just get him gone ASAP. Good riddance in advance for whenever he's not our problem anymore.

I wonder what the O-line thinks of him at this point, ya know, just going for himself. Does this idiot think they'll not think of something, or whoever on the coaching staff?
There's clearly a lot of ill will built up here over Bell. I believe that game is at Baltimore. Just the team you don't want to see your blockers less than enthusiastic. Steelers should ditch him. Primadonnas just kill football teams from within.

And while we're comparing Bell to DeMarco Murray, here's another fun fact. DeMarco's production was never the same as soon as he left the safety of that strong Dallas O-Line. I suspect that guys like Pouncey and DeCastro have greatly aided Bell's stats. Unless he goes somewhere with a great offensive line (and that's unlikely as long as he continues to demand the world on a platter), I would expect a drop in production on his new team.

[Ranoria]

Don’t give one shit about football? Not to be rude, but that’s one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever seen. These guys are busting their asses, day in and day out, and if they didn’t care, then they wouldn’t still be in the league. You don’t have the success as a player that he’s had if you don’t care, and that’s facts. Everyone in that league is passionate about the game of football, or they pretty quickly fall out of relevance, and the league.

Secondly, okay, that would make some sense at almost any other position, but Le’Veon is a running back, and arguably the best in the NFL(I certainly think so). Look at Demario Murray. He failed to set himself up financially, and the touches caught up with him really quick. Hell, I think he was 29 when he retired. Le’Veon is making a smart play by not only preserving his body in order to prolong his career, but making sure he gets paid what he thinks he’s worth. He doesn’t want to burn out at 28 years old.

And the way the Steelers operate? Yes, but that’s a completely different view of it. The Steelers, in general, don’t pay their premier guys the money they deserve. Antonio Brown is really the only exception I’ve found to this rule.

Finally, once again, this isn’t high school or college. In the NFL, NBA, etc, loyalty to your team means virtually nothing. Because the team holds all the power. So why would Le’Veon take a contract, a one year deal, mind you, that gives him no security whatsoever and puts his body on the line for a team that he’s seen isn’t willing to give him any sort of future security? Look at Earl Thomas. Same thing there.

Rather than say “he doesn’t care about football,” “he’s a greedy little pig,” or “he’s making more money per year than I will in my lifetime,” (again, so does every good player in the NFL. So why don’t we just cap the salary at 5 mil per year?) let’s look at it from his view here. I mean damn, this will probably get him another year or two of elite production, and with a team that is willing to give him some financial security, and he’s going to be much better off for it, on and off the field.

Sure. Riding a jetski and making rap albums while his team is working their tails off. He's really busting his ass

Look, I'll admit that I wrote that while a bit angry and it was uncharacteristically aggressive and over the top. But the overarching point still stands. If you're reasonably good at budgeting, $14M per year should be enough to live comfortably for a long time, even if you only play two or three years. This guy has made it abundantly clear that this is about the paychecks and nothing but the paychecks. Talent is wasted on the narcissist.

Did you miss the part where Pittsburgh wanted to sign him to a long-term contract? And a pretty dang lucrative one too. You have to understand this goes both ways. RB's fall off the top tier in a snap. Look at AP, Shaun Alexander, Larry Johnson, or even DeMarco Murray. Long term contracts to RB's are a risky proposition. As you say, there's no loyalty in football, and the Steelers can't mortgage the future for a guy who may or may not stay elite a long time. Even you admit that he only probably has another year or two of elite production in him. So why pay him outlandish money for the next five?

Sure. Riding a jetski and making rap albums while his team is working their tails off. He's really busting his ass

Yup. And Myles Garrett does poetry. Mike Daniels is an anime enthusiast. Yes he's busting his ass. Do you have any idea how much work it takes to be a dominant player at the hs level, much less d1 FBS or the frikkin' NFL? Of course these guys have other things that they do.

And yes, I saw that they wanted to give him a three year contract. The dude's 26. And I said this will buy him a year or two, not that he'll drop off. I think Bell's going to play at a high level until 31-33. And yes, you're 100% right when you say that RBs drop off, but that's the concern on Bell's end. In his mind, and mine, you return all-pro level production with dollars and long term investment. If you have to cut him at some point because of that, then that's okay, because he's the best running back your team has ever had. (I'd say one of the best players but when you've got the history that they have, eh). And again with the money, like I said, why don't we just pay all the NFL guys 5 million, so everyone gets an about even share of the cap? Of course money is a part of it, but it's frustrating as a player when a team that you've worked so hard to help succeed isn't willing to invest in your talent and skill long term, same as Kirk Cousins. I mean look at all the money that Bell is giving up right now, and this is what, the 3rd time they've tagged him? Yeah, he has every right to be pissed off. He gave them three years to meet his demands, and rather than do that, they said 'No, we're going to run you into the ground with 400+ touches, beat your legs until there's nothing left, and give you no long term security.'

And again with the money, this isn't a socialist league. He's a top-notch guy. He's caught 160 balls between 2017 and 2016, and he's put up 1,200+ rushing yards in 3 of his 5 NFL seasons that he's played in, once doing it in 12 games. Pay the man, he's earned it.

[Idzequitch]

.'Pay the man, he's earned it.

They tried. He scoffed. The rest is history. Good riddance.

[Jerzyland]

Well, not bad/so-so for this week as I go 8-7. The biggest surprises are the Falcons, Lions, Colts, and Eagles (bastard penalties) losing with the Texans winning while the Ravens steal a win from the Steelers. I still maintain second as well, hoo-rah.

Week 4 Results:

Rams over Vikings
Packers over Bills
Falcons over Bengals
Lions over Cowboys
Colts over Texans
Patriots over Dolphins
Jaguars over Jets
Eagles over Titans
Buccaneers over Bears
Browns over Raiders
Seahawks over Cardinals
Saints over Giants
Chargers over 49ers
Steelers over Ravens
Chiefs over Broncos

Now comes Week 5 Predictions. I'm taking once again some big gambles here, especially with the Eagles, Jaguars, and 49ers here:

Patriots over Colts
Steelers over Falcons
Ravens over Browns
Broncos over Jets
Packers over Lions
Jaguars over Chiefs
Bengals over Dolphins
Panthers over Giants
Titans over Bills
Chargers over Raiders
49ers over Cardinals
Rams over Seahawks
Eagles over Vikings
Cowboys over Texans
Saints over Redskins

Still second, eh? Behind ...dat old man, Jerzy... Dat ol' man Jerzy... He mus' know somethin' ...but he don't say nuthin'... he jus' keeps on rolling along.

[Luminesa]

I mean Pitt should’ve paid him. He’s 100% in the right here. He obviously doesn’t like sitting. Nobody does. But you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. Are those guys your teammates? Yeah. But hell, there’s no loyalty in pro sports, and he’s 100% right. The Steelers know they have one more year of him left, and they’d have run him into the ground.

"In the right." Lolnope. Remember how this started as negotiation for a longterm contract? Not the Steelers' fault he's an unreasonable, greedy little jerk. "Doing what's best for him and his family" rings a little hollow when it's a matter of how many millions he's making. The worst case scenario is still more money per year than I'll probably see in my lifetime. Giving in to these drama queen players who make everything about themselves and don't give one shit about football? That's not how the Steelers operate, and I hope it never is.

LeVeon Bell cannot leave Pittsburgh soon enough. I pity the team that's willing to cave in and pay him the salary he's asking. I honestly hope no one does. At this point, I don't even want that loser on the field after the bye week. Just get him gone ASAP. Good riddance in advance for whenever he's not our problem anymore.

Asking for the amount of money he wants would handicap the team and would leave them unable to pay other players.

[Jerzyland]

I wonder what the O-line thinks of him at this point, ya know, just going for himself. Does this idiot think they'll not think of something, or whoever on the coaching staff?
There's clearly a lot of ill will built up here over Bell. I believe that game is at Baltimore. Just the team you don't want to see your blockers less than enthusiastic. Steelers should ditch him. Primadonnas just kill football teams from within.

And while we're comparing Bell to DeMarco Murray, here's another fun fact. DeMarco's production was never the same as soon as he left the safety of that strong Dallas O-Line. I suspect that guys like Pouncey and DeCastro have greatly aided Bell's stats. Unless he goes somewhere with a great offensive line (and that's unlikely as long as he continues to demand the world on a platter), I would expect a drop in production on his new team.

Once he gets paid by whatever fool team owner, he'll likely see a decline bc of his overall attitude too. IMHO, he's just not a team oriented guy. Bell should have taken the sweet offer the Steelers made him.

[Idzequitch]

Patriots over Colts
Broncos over Jets
Packers over Lions
Panthers over Giants
Titans over Bills
Falcons over Steelers
Ravens over Browns
Bengals over Dolphins
Jaguars over Chiefs
Chargers over Raiders
Vikings over Eagles
Rams over Seahawks
Niners over Cardinals
Cowboys over Texans
Saints over Redskins

[Zurkerx]

Well, not bad/so-so for this week as I go 8-7. The biggest surprises are the Falcons, Lions, Colts, and Eagles (bastard penalties) losing with the Texans winning while the Ravens steal a win from the Steelers. I still maintain second as well, hoo-rah.

Week 4 Results:

Rams over Vikings
Packers over Bills
Falcons over Bengals
Lions over Cowboys
Colts over Texans
Patriots over Dolphins
Jaguars over Jets
Eagles over Titans
Buccaneers over Bears
Browns over Raiders
Seahawks over Cardinals
Saints over Giants
Chargers over 49ers
Steelers over Ravens
Chiefs over Broncos

Now comes Week 5 Predictions. I'm taking once again some big gambles here, especially with the Eagles, Jaguars, and 49ers here:

Patriots over Colts
Steelers over Falcons
Ravens over Browns
Broncos over Jets
Packers over Lions
Jaguars over Chiefs
Bengals over Dolphins
Panthers over Giants
Titans over Bills
Chargers over Raiders
49ers over Cardinals
Rams over Seahawks
Eagles over Vikings
Cowboys over Texans
Saints over Redskins

Still second, eh? Behind ...dat old man, Jerzy... Dat ol' man Jerzy... He mus' know somethin' ...but he don't say nuthin'... he jus' keeps on rolling along.

While your wisdom and knowledge empowers you, my youth will carry me to the finish line! (unless my arrogance gets the better of me, in that case, I'm fucked )

[Jerzyland]

Still second, eh? Behind ...dat old man, Jerzy... Dat ol' man Jerzy... He mus' know somethin' ...but he don't say nuthin'... he jus' keeps on rolling along.

While your wisdom and knowledge empowers you, my youth will carry me to the finish line! (unless my arrogance gets the better of me, in that case, I'm fucked )

That's pretty arrogant for starters, HELL, maybe you're already finished.

As for me, I do look both ways twice before I cross a street. But there should be a nice girl/trans/boy scout waiting there to assisting me in crossing, but oh no, all those selfish little [redacted] are online.

But if one of them did chance going outside and show up one day ....I'd treat them to my own personal Lock of the Week, no charge, and then let them play on my lawn.

[Ranoria]

While your wisdom and knowledge empowers you, my youth will carry me to the finish line! (unless my arrogance gets the better of me, in that case, I'm fucked )

That's pretty arrogant for starters, HELL, maybe you're already finished.

As for me, I do look both ways twice before I cross a street. But there should be a nice girl/trans/boy scout waiting there to assisting me in crossing, but oh no, all those selfish little [redacted] are online.

But if one of them did chance going outside and show up one day ....I'd treat them to my own personal Lock of the Week, no charge, and then let them play on my lawn.

Nah bro no kids on the lawn. Unless it’s thanksgiving. Cuz you know, Turkey Bowl.

[Jerzyland]

That's pretty arrogant for starters, HELL, maybe you're already finished.

As for me, I do look both ways twice before I cross a street. But there should be a nice girl/trans/boy scout waiting there to assisting me in crossing, but oh no, all those selfish little [redacted] are online.

But if one of them did chance going outside and show up one day ....I'd treat them to my own personal Lock of the Week, no charge, and then let them play on my lawn.

Nah bro no kids on the lawn. Unless it’s thanksgiving. Cuz you know, Turkey Bowl.

Thursday Night games. Get rid of ALL of them.

*stares*

[Farnhamia]

Nah bro no kids on the lawn. Unless it’s thanksgiving. Cuz you know, Turkey Bowl.

Thursday Night games. Get rid of ALL of them.

*stares*

ALL OF THEM! *stares as a regiment of Farnhamian Guards takes position behind her*

Okay, so Thanksgiving Day games can stay but otherwise ...

ALL OF THEM!

[The South Falls]

Thursday Night games. Get rid of ALL of them.

*stares*

ALL OF THEM! *stares as a regiment of Farnhamian Guards takes position behind her*

Okay, so Thanksgiving Day games can stay but otherwise ...

ALL OF THEM!

But I wuv being able to stare at my television and watch the Browns win for once in my goddamn life. Babies have been conceived been born and learned how to walk since the Browns last won.

[Freezic Vast]

Thursday Night games. Get rid of ALL of them.

*stares*

ALL OF THEM! *stares as a regiment of Farnhamian Guards takes position behind her*

Okay, so Thanksgiving Day games can stay but otherwise ...

ALL OF THEM!

All I want is watchable football, not boring mediocrity on a Thursday night home with nothing else to do.

[Jerzyland]

Thursday Night games. Get rid of ALL of them.

*stares*

ALL OF THEM! *stares as a regiment of Farnhamian Guards takes position behind her*

Okay, so Thanksgiving Day games can stay but otherwise ...

ALL OF THEM!

Yes... YES! ALL OF THEM!!!

YOU GET IT! IF WE DON"T STOP THEM SOON... THERE WILL BE A MIDNIGHT GAME FROM LAS VEGAS! NO MORE THURSDAY NIGHT GAMES!

*severe eye contact*

THANK YOU!

Detroit thought this Thanksgiving game up. They should only play it against a team that wants to be in there. Dallas was dumb enough to provide a second game. That was their choice! They could always play Detroit if no one else was interested. Detroit and Dallas have this. And maybe 2 other teams (from the other 30) which could rotate through a fifteen year window. So other teams only have to participate in this 6 times a century. It would be fair but TV moguls would hate it.

[Jerzyland]

ALL OF THEM! *stares as a regiment of Farnhamian Guards takes position behind her*

Okay, so Thanksgiving Day games can stay but otherwise ...

ALL OF THEM!

All I want is watchable football, not boring mediocrity on a Thursday night home with nothing else to do.

Why not DVR one of the Sunday games? I get four games free but two are on at the same time. I DVR one and watch it later when I want. If I don't feel like the late game, I DVR that too. Knowing how it ends doesn't mess it up too much.

[Farnhamia]

ALL OF THEM! *stares as a regiment of Farnhamian Guards takes position behind her*

Okay, so Thanksgiving Day games can stay but otherwise ...

ALL OF THEM!

Yes... YES! ALL OF THEM!!!

YOU GET IT! IF WE DON"T STOP THEM SOON... THERE WILL BE A MIDNIGHT GAME FROM LAS VEGAS! NO MORE THURSDAY NIGHT GAMES!

*severe eye contact*

THANK YOU!

Detroit thought this Thanksgiving game up. They should only play it against a team that wants to be in there. Dallas was dumb enough to provide a second game. That was their choice! They could always play Detroit if no one else was interested.

On the other hand, the Thanksgiving games do allow a person to get a couple of hours of non-family time.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Patriots over Colts
Falcons over Steelers
Ravens over Browns
Broncos over Jets
Packers over Lions
Chiefs over Jaguars
Bengals over Dolphins
Panthers over Giants
Bills over Titans
Chargers over Raiders
49ers over Cardinals
Rams over Seahawks
Eagles over Vikings
Cowboys over Texans
Saints over Redskins

[Jerzyland]

Yes... YES! ALL OF THEM!!!

YOU GET IT! IF WE DON"T STOP THEM SOON... THERE WILL BE A MIDNIGHT GAME FROM LAS VEGAS! NO MORE THURSDAY NIGHT GAMES!

*severe eye contact*

THANK YOU!

Detroit thought this Thanksgiving game up. They should only play it against a team that wants to be in there. Dallas was dumb enough to provide a second game. That was their choice! They could always play Detroit if no one else was interested.

On the other hand, the Thanksgiving games do allow a person to get a couple of hours of non-family time.

Clearly you can see I have no problems with the 12:30 game in Detroit or the 4 PM in Dallas. They are the only games the NFL should play on Thursday. Besides, give the CFL a break. lol, maybe Trump can sneak it into that rebranded NAFTA deal.

[The South Falls]

On the other hand, the Thanksgiving games do allow a person to get a couple of hours of non-family time.

Clearly you can see I have no problems with the 12:30 game in Detroit or the 4 PM in Dallas. They are the only games the NFL should play on Thursday. Besides, give the CFL a break. lol, maybe Trump can sneak it into that rebranded NAFTA deal.

The CFL is stealing jobs. SAD!