NFL Thread v2: The 2020 NFL Season!

by **Idzequitch** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:55 am

Ranoria wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:True. But the fact that they are winning kind of means he's good enough, even if he isn't anywhere near a top tier player. The Ravens won the SB with Dilfer and look back on him fondly. The Bears even managed to reach the SB with old "Sexy Rexy" Grossman. I don't deny that there are guys out there who would be an improvement over Bortles, but it's pretty hard to can the guy who played well enough in a team effort to make the Conference Finals last season.

Completely disagree. He played well enough because of an insanely strong supporting cast. A plethora of all pros on the defense, a thousand yard rusher and strong offensive line and receiving core. He doesn’t elavate his team, and honestly he probably drags them down a bit. He’s good enough to win a ring with, maybe, with this squad, but in that case so is almost every starting quarterback in he national football league.

And perhaps one of the reasons the Jags can have such a supporting cast is because he isn't some elite QB gobbling up $20M of their cap space.

by **Ranoria** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:09 am

Idzequitch wrote:
Ranoria wrote:Completely disagree. He played well enough because of an insanely strong supporting cast. A plethora of all pros on the defense, a thousand yard rusher and strong offensive line and receiving core. He doesn’t elavate his team, and honestly he probably drags them down a bit. He’s good enough to win a ring with, maybe, with this squad, but in that case so is almost every starting quarterback in he national football league.

And perhaps one of the reasons the Jags can have such a supporting cast is because he isn't some elite QB gobbling up $20M of their cap space.

Getting paid less because he’s a bad QB. I think we just went full circle here.

by **Idzequitch** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:14 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:And perhaps one of the reasons the Jags can have such a supporting cast is because he isn't some elite QB gobbling up $20M of their cap space.

Getting paid less because he’s a bad QB. I think we just went full circle here.

To different conclusions. No one denies he's less talented than the average QB. But he's generally done what's been needed of him. Rather than building around the QB like most teams, the Jags have taken a different strategy, building up the other positions at the cost of a great QB. And it's working.

by **Idzequitch** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:12 pm

Reportedly, LeVeon Bell plans to join the Steelers during their Week 7 bye.

Can he just go away please?

by **Ameriganastan** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:35 pm

I pray to thee, Gods of football. Please make Mahomes suck tonight. Amen.

by **Ranoria** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:51 pm

Idzequitch wrote:Reportedly, LeVeon Bell plans to join the Steelers during their Week 7 bye.

Can he just go away please?

I mean Pitt should’ve paid him. He’s 100% in the right here. He obviously doesn’t like sitting. Nobody does. But you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. Are those guys your teammates? Yeah. But hell, there’s no loyalty in pro sports, and he’s 100% right. The Steelers know they have one more year of him left, and they’d have run him into the ground.

Ameriganastan wrote:I pray to thee, Gods of football. Please make Mahomes suck tonight. Amen.

Nope. I need 15 points out of Kelce tonight, plus whatever Demaryus Thomas does.

by **Saint Ryvern** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:59 pm

This is the first October in a long time that Wisconsinites care more about the Brewers than the Packers. That says a lot about how disappointing the Pack has been so far this year for fans.

by **Zurkerx** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:01 pm

Idzequitch wrote:Reportedly, LeVeon Bell plans to join the Steelers during their Week 7 bye.

Can he just go away please?

Us Eagles would take him off your hands, if he didn't have a high price tag on him...

Ameriganastan wrote:I pray to thee, Gods of football. Please make Mahomes suck tonight. Amen.

I mean, I don't have him for Fantasy and I already won but, I did pick the Chiefs to win so, I need them to win okay...

by **Ameriganastan** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:02 pm

I picked them to win too. That doesn't mean I want them to.

by **Ranoria** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:51 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I picked them to win too. That doesn't mean I want them to.

This is the epitome of rational loyalty. Proud of you Ameri

by **Kohr** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:00 pm

I really enjoy watching the Chiefs' offense.

by **Ameriganastan** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:08 pm

Can't stop Rolls Royce!

by **Ameriganastan** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:41 pm

...Why the fuck is Good Charlotte on my TV? This is ESPN, not mid 2000's MTV.

by **Ameriganastan** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:02 pm

I hate this kid...

by **Ranoria** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:10 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I hate this kid...

holy shit it was like 13-23 last time I checked the score...

and now Kelce has a TD and I should win my fatasy game

by **Ameriganastan** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:18 pm

YOU TRY TO HOOK AND LADDER ON THE GAME DECIDING PLAY!? YOU FUCKING IMBECILES! THIS ISN'T A GODDAMN COLLEGE GAME!

by **Trollgaard** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:00 pm

That was a great Monday night game! What an ending! The broncos really are better than last year- that was a tough game!

by **Greater vakolicci haven** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:07 pm

Do the chiefs play the rams this year?

by **Idzequitch** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:54 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Reportedly, LeVeon Bell plans to join the Steelers during their Week 7 bye.

Can he just go away please?

I mean Pitt should’ve paid him. He’s 100% in the right here. He obviously doesn’t like sitting. Nobody does. But you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. Are those guys your teammates? Yeah. But hell, there’s no loyalty in pro sports, and he’s 100% right. The Steelers know they have one more year of him left, and they’d have run him into the ground.

"In the right." Lolnope. Remember how this started as negotiation for a longterm contract? Not the Steelers' fault he's an unreasonable, greedy little jerk. "Doing what's best for him and his family" rings a little hollow when it's a matter of how many millions he's making. The worst case scenario is still more money per year than I'll probably see in my lifetime. Giving in to these drama queen players who make everything about themselves and don't give one shit about football? That's not how the Steelers operate, and I hope it never is.

LeVeon Bell cannot leave Pittsburgh soon enough. I pity the team that's willing to cave in and pay him the salary he's asking. I honestly hope no one does. At this point, I don't even want that loser on the field after the bye week. Just get him gone ASAP. Good riddance in advance for whenever he's not our problem anymore.

by **Zurkerx** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:12 am

Trollgaard wrote:That was a great Monday night game! What an ending! The broncos really are better than last year- that was a tough game!

Now let's see if they can survive Jacksonville (or Sacksville), a far superior defense.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Do the chiefs play the rams this year?

Nope, but that would be an awesome game. I would give it to the Rams really if they played each other.

by **Ranoria** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:18 am

Idzequitch wrote:
Ranoria wrote:I mean Pitt should’ve paid him. He’s 100% in the right here. He obviously doesn’t like sitting. Nobody does. But you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. Are those guys your teammates? Yeah. But hell, there’s no loyalty in pro sports, and he’s 100% right. The Steelers know they have one more year of him left, and they’d have run him into the ground.

"In the right." Lolnope. Remember how this started as negotiation for a longterm contract? Not the Steelers' fault he's an unreasonable, greedy little jerk. "Doing what's best for him and his family" rings a little hollow when it's a matter of how many millions he's making. The worst case scenario is still more money per year than I'll probably see in my lifetime. Giving in to these drama queen players who make everything about themselves and don't give one shit about football? That's not how the Steelers operate, and I hope it never is.

LeVeon Bell cannot leave Pittsburgh soon enough. I pity the team that's willing to cave in and pay him the salary he's asking. I honestly hope no one does. At this point, I don't even want that loser on the field after the bye week. Just get him gone ASAP. Good riddance in advance for whenever he's not our problem anymore.

Don’t give one shit about football? Not to be rude, but that’s one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever seen. These guys are busting their asses, day in and day out, and if they didn’t care, then they wouldn’t still be in the league. You don’t have the success as a player that he’s had if you don’t care, and that’s facts. Everyone in that league is passionate about the game of football, or they pretty quickly fall out of relevance, and the league.

Secondly, okay, that would make some sense at almost any other position, but Le’Veon is a running back, and arguably the best in the NFL(I certainly think so). Look at Demario Murray. He failed to set himself up financially, and the touches caught up with him really quick. Hell, I think he was 29 when he retired. Le’Veon is making a smart play by not only preserving his body in order to prolong his career, but making sure he gets paid what he thinks he’s worth. He doesn’t want to burn out at 28 years old.

And the way the Steelers operate? Yes, but that’s a completely different view of it. The Steelers, in general, don’t pay their premier guys the money they deserve. Antonio Brown is really the only exception I’ve found to this rule.

Finally, once again, this isn’t high school or college. In the NFL, NBA, etc, loyalty to your team means virtually nothing. Because the team holds all the power. So why would Le’Veon take a contract, a one year deal, mind you, that gives him no security whatsoever and puts his body on the line for a team that he’s seen isn’t willing to give him any sort of future security? Look at Earl Thomas. Same thing there.

Rather than say “he doesn’t care about football,” “he’s a greedy little pig,” or “he’s making more money per year than I will in my lifetime,” (again, so does every good player in the NFL. So why don’t we just cap the salary at 5 mil per year?) let’s look at it from his view here. I mean damn, this will probably get him another year or two of elite production, and with a team that is willing to give him some financial security, and he’s going to be much better off for it, on and off the field.

by **Zurkerx** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:48 am

Well, not bad/so-so for this week as I go 8-7. The biggest surprises are the Falcons, Lions, Colts, and Eagles (bastard penalties) losing with the Texans winning while the Ravens steal a win from the Steelers. I still maintain second as well, hoo-rah.

Week 4 Results:

Now comes Week 5 Predictions. I'm taking once again some big gambles here, especially with the Eagles, Jaguars, and 49ers here:

by **Freezic Vast** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:52 am

by **Ranoria** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:58 am

I’m not doing too bad. I sucked week 1 and 2 though, so more than likely I’ll regress towards the mean here.

Ran’s week 5

by **Kohr** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:29 am

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