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Super Bowl Championship: Who’s the winner?

Kansas City Chiefs and Patty freaking Mahomes
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Seattle Seahawks, Let Russ Cool!
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:44 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They should just have the games as usual.

How about we think of what's best for the health of the people and not on whatever you want to happen?

health is pretty irrelevant. Think of what's best for freedom, in this sense the freedom to attend a game.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:55 am

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Shazbotdom wrote:How about we think of what's best for the health of the people and not on whatever you want to happen?

health is pretty irrelevant. Think of what's best for freedom, in this sense the freedom to attend a game.

I don't remember seeing that in the Constitution. So your point is moot.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:57 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They should just have the games as usual.

How about we think of what's best for the health of the people and not on whatever you want to happen?

Hear, hear.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:59 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:How about we think of what's best for the health of the people and not on whatever you want to happen?

health is pretty irrelevant. Think of what's best for freedom, in this sense the freedom to attend a game.


Rumor has it that's what dead people think. Ask any zombie.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:37 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They should just have the games as usual.

How about we think of what's best for the health of the people and not on whatever you want to happen?

Imaging packing in fans in 70000 capacity stadiums and expecting zero cases of the virus. Sure sporting events without fans may be dull, but it's the only way to have them on without causing too much spread.
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Postby Ranoria » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:36 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:How about we think of what's best for the health of the people and not on whatever you want to happen?

Imaging packing in fans in 70000 capacity stadiums and expecting zero cases of the virus. Sure sporting events without fans may be dull, but it's the only way to have them on without causing too much spread.


I have my doubts to stadiums with no fans.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... 5l3m5ftz62

Obviously, there will be some limitations, I think someone pointed this out before. ^^ Sponsorships being put onto camera visible seats, essentially. But no fans? You have to realize that the NFL owners, regardless of anyone's opinions, are going to be going for the money, and stadium seating is a big part of that. Once again regardless of opinion, the COVID is becoming less and less of a concern for the public, especially amid other events, and there will certainly be a lot less lashback in the case of full seating.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:05 am

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Outer Sparta wrote:Imaging packing in fans in 70000 capacity stadiums and expecting zero cases of the virus. Sure sporting events without fans may be dull, but it's the only way to have them on without causing too much spread.


I have my doubts to stadiums with no fans.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... 5l3m5ftz62

Obviously, there will be some limitations, I think someone pointed this out before. ^^ Sponsorships being put onto camera visible seats, essentially. But no fans? You have to realize that the NFL owners, regardless of anyone's opinions, are going to be going for the money, and stadium seating is a big part of that. Once again regardless of opinion, the COVID is becoming less and less of a concern for the public, especially amid other events, and there will certainly be a lot less lashback in the case of full seating.

If they did it for La Liga, Premier League, Bundesliga, and Serie A in European football, they can certainly do it here. But American sports is way different than European sports.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:11 am

Ameriganastan wrote:Rapistberger is apparently a Jesus freak now.

I didn't think he could get any more annoying, but there it is. Another scumbag that now thinks he's a saint cause he went to church.

He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:13 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:They should do what they've been doing in Europe and have games but without fans.

They should just have the games as usual.

Not everyone is as willing to recklessly endanger the public at large as you are, thankfully.
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Postby Partybus » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:02 am

Idzequitch wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They should just have the games as usual.

Not everyone is as willing to recklessly endanger the public at large as you are, thankfully.

As much as I agree with you, what about the (tens of) thousands of folks that already paid to see it (insert games here) live?

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Postby Idzequitch » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:11 am

Partybus wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Not everyone is as willing to recklessly endanger the public at large as you are, thankfully.

As much as I agree with you, what about the (tens of) thousands of folks that already paid to see it (insert games here) live?

Refunds. Or replace tickets for the 2020 season with 2021 tickets.
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Postby Dresderstan » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:13 am

Can we also bar the Super Bowl and no halftime show assuming this goes on til February.

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Postby Ranoria » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:19 am

Idzequitch wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Rapistberger is apparently a Jesus freak now.

I didn't think he could get any more annoying, but there it is. Another scumbag that now thinks he's a saint cause he went to church.

He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.

His point is that he feels Roethlisberger believes that all is forgiven because of his faith, not that he doesn't want people to go to church or that he doesn't believe people can change. No reason to go at him there, because he has a point. Taking a first step doesn't make everything right and it doesn't mean that someone will change.

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They should just have the games as usual.

Not everyone is as willing to recklessly endanger the public at large as you are, thankfully.

You'd be surprised. And again, not everyone thinks the COVID is as big a concern. For those of that opinion, its perfectly justifiable to not take precautions.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:26 am

Ranoria wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.

His point is that he feels Roethlisberger believes that all is forgiven because of his faith, not that he doesn't want people to go to church or that he doesn't believe people can change. No reason to go at him there, because he has a point. Taking a first step doesn't make everything right and it doesn't mean that someone will change.

Ameri criticizes everything so intensely and so often that I find it hard to take it seriously oftentimes. I realize that winning back public trust once its been lost is a long process. But attitudes like the one expressed in Ameri's post ensure it won't ever happen, even if the person really has changed, or is in the process.

Idzequitch wrote:Not everyone is as willing to recklessly endanger the public at large as you are, thankfully.

You'd be surprised. And again, not everyone thinks the COVID is as big a concern. For those of that opinion, its perfectly justifiable to not take precautions.

I, too, like to justify needless spread of illness and death.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:25 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.

His point is that he feels Roethlisberger believes that all is forgiven because of his faith, not that he doesn't want people to go to church or that he doesn't believe people can change. No reason to go at him there, because he has a point. Taking a first step doesn't make everything right and it doesn't mean that someone will change.

Idzequitch wrote:Not everyone is as willing to recklessly endanger the public at large as you are, thankfully.

You'd be surprised. And again, not everyone thinks the COVID is as big a concern. For those of that opinion, its perfectly justifiable to not take precautions.


You'll be surprised too. Those folks that don't think COVID is a big concern are a continually shrinking number as more and more of them get all the facts, change their minds and realize the dangers of this pandemic as it spreads everyplace. Meanwhile don't hold your breath for a working vaccine. That's bc of the other six coronaviruses known to infect humans... no vaccine has yet been found for any of them. I wish I had better news to tell you. Especially since I am in the high risk group. :(
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Postby Idzequitch » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:38 pm

Adrian Peterson says NFL RB pay is "disrespectful"

Frankly, Adrian, get over yourself. You're making millions a year.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:40 pm

Idzequitch wrote:Adrian Peterson says NFL RB pay is "disrespectful"

Frankly, Adrian, get over yourself. You're making millions a year.

Stars are overpaid, bench players are underpaid and underprotected, and (most) owners make too much money.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:53 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Adrian Peterson says NFL RB pay is "disrespectful"

Frankly, Adrian, get over yourself. You're making millions a year.

Stars are overpaid, bench players are underpaid and underprotected, and (most) owners make too much money.

The quarterback contracts have gotten more and more bloated over the years. Somehow Brady managed to keep his low since the Pats did that sort of stuff.
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Idzequitch wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Rapistberger is apparently a Jesus freak now.

I didn't think he could get any more annoying, but there it is. Another scumbag that now thinks he's a saint cause he went to church.

He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.


People being religious is not the problem, people being religious and going to church thinking it makes them better than people like me, I personally find that very annoying.
Especially those sports types who get all preachy but don't practice what they preach...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm

Idzequitch wrote:Adrian Peterson says NFL RB pay is "disrespectful"

Frankly, Adrian, get over yourself. You're making millions a year.

I wish I was guaranteed to make at minimum eight times the average American salary...
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:07 pm

Tombradyonia wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.


People being religious is not the problem, people being religious and going to church thinking it makes them better than people like me, I personally find that very annoying.
Especially those sports types who get all preachy but don't practice what they preach...

And then they say generic stuff like "I thank God for winning."
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:22 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Adrian Peterson says NFL RB pay is "disrespectful"

Frankly, Adrian, get over yourself. You're making millions a year.

Stars are overpaid, bench players are underpaid and underprotected, and (most) owners make too much money.

Got me wondering which owner isn't making enough money. :blink:
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:23 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Stars are overpaid, bench players are underpaid and underprotected, and (most) owners make too much money.

Got me wondering which owner isn't making enough money. :blink:

Mark Davis, the "poor" NFL power in comparison to guys like Jerry Jones?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:30 pm

Tombradyonia wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:He's been in church for years now. My youth pastor was a Steelers fan and I remember him making a big deal out of it. And that was back in... a year when I was in high school... which has been awhile. I'm sorry that people being religious is such a bother to you. Except actually not really, as it doesn't affect you at all. And I'm sorry that you don't think that people can change. Sounds like a depressing way to live.


People being religious is not the problem, people being religious and going to church thinking it makes them better than people like me, I personally find that very annoying.
Especially those sports types who get all preachy but don't practice what they preach...


Worse than what they think are the ones that believe they can be atrocious to their fellow human beings all week, whether at school, work or play. See, it's all good cause they attended an hour church service every Sunday and all is forgiven. So they leave church then proceed to do plenty of mean and nasty things to people for another seven days. But thank God all the church peeps aren't like that... but way too many out there are exactly that.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:35 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Stars are overpaid, bench players are underpaid and underprotected, and (most) owners make too much money.

Got me wondering which owner isn't making enough money. :blink:

Packers owners.
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