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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:55 pm

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Impaled Nazarene wrote:He retired under contract and so the patriots still have his rights I assume.

Exactly. Same as the Seahawks trading Marshawn Lynch to be Raiders.

Gronk will go down Week 3 with an injury that will sideline him for the season.


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Postby Oxes Republic » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:03 pm

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Ranoria wrote:Exactly. Same as the Seahawks trading Marshawn Lynch to be Raiders.

Gronk will go down Week 3 with an injury that will sideline him for the season.


There, I said it.


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Postby Ko-oren » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:06 am

Draft comes ever closer, plenty of rumours of trades though. Nobody knows what's real anymore with every front office locked away in quarantine. Some rumours about my Lions trading back as well. Cincinnati sounds really locked in to #1, though.

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:09 am

Ah the Draft, the Eagles better take a WR or a Corner: we need one though with the abundance of WRs, we should be able to get a few.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:12 am

I still don't care. We all know they'll do like every other league and cancel the season like a bunch of wimps. So I have zero investment in it this year.
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Postby Ko-oren » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:15 am

We've got too many gaps for this draft to fill. I just want a competent defence at this point
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Postby Saint Ryvern » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:47 am

I want the Packers to nab a WR in the first round. Depending on the wide outs available they make take an inside linebacker, which wouldn't be too bad (depending on the player, of course). This is a deep draft for pass-catching talent, something we desperately need.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:49 am

Ko-oren wrote:We've got too many gaps for this draft to fill. I just want a competent defence at this point

Tell me about it... having a good defense would be a first time.
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Postby Ranoria » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:22 am

Saint Ryvern wrote:I want the Packers to nab a WR in the first round. Depending on the wide outs available they make take an inside linebacker, which wouldn't be too bad (depending on the player, of course). This is a deep draft for pass-catching talent, something we desperately need.

I'm strongly against taking wideouts in the 1st unless you've got a freak like Julio or DK Metcalf available, and I haven't seen that in this class. You can get a ton of value from skill position players form round 3 and down if you're good at your job.

The Pack...I don't even know. They seem solid on pass rushers, I would probably go safety and a wideout in the 2-3 round, ILB or OL in the first. In the end, Rodgers is always going to elevate his pass catchers, but the first round just isn't the place to grab them.

Corey Davis, John Ross, Kevin White, Kelvin Benjamin(who, honestly, was such a freak coming out that I probably would have drafted him), Mike Williams(who's probably the best of the 2017 group of 1st round wideouts), none of them have done anything. It's about as bust-prone of a position as a Q. If they really want one, grab that freak out of Colorado in the 2-3 round. Besides that, unless you're the Giants with Bobby Hart and Erek Flowers, its very hard to miss on an OL.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:22 am

Saint Ryvern wrote:I want the Packers to nab a WR in the first round. Depending on the wide outs available they make take an inside linebacker, which wouldn't be too bad (depending on the player, of course). This is a deep draft for pass-catching talent, something we desperately need.

Word. The receiver corps has practically gone to shit since we won the Super Bowl.
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Postby Saint Ryvern » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:20 am

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Saint Ryvern wrote:I want the Packers to nab a WR in the first round. Depending on the wide outs available they make take an inside linebacker, which wouldn't be too bad (depending on the player, of course). This is a deep draft for pass-catching talent, something we desperately need.

I'm strongly against taking wideouts in the 1st unless you've got a freak like Julio or DK Metcalf available, and I haven't seen that in this class. You can get a ton of value from skill position players form round 3 and down if you're good at your job.

The Pack...I don't even know. They seem solid on pass rushers, I would probably go safety and a wideout in the 2-3 round, ILB or OL in the first. In the end, Rodgers is always going to elevate his pass catchers, but the first round just isn't the place to grab them.

Corey Davis, John Ross, Kevin White, Kelvin Benjamin(who, honestly, was such a freak coming out that I probably would have drafted him), Mike Williams(who's probably the best of the 2017 group of 1st round wideouts), none of them have done anything. It's about as bust-prone of a position as a Q. If they really want one, grab that freak out of Colorado in the 2-3 round. Besides that, unless you're the Giants with Bobby Hart and Erek Flowers, its very hard to miss on an OL.

What are you talking about? This draft is full of top-tier wide out talent (and it's hard to classify Metcalf in that category, he was super raw coming out of college; he landed in the perfect place). Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs...those guys are all exceptional athletes and players that will be taken in the teens. Outside of those three you have some great options like Jefferson, Higgins, Mims, and more. A lot of those guys will go in the first round and deserve it. The Packers need someone who can make plays once the ball is in their hands too.

Yes, Rodgers will get the ball to people, but we lack dynamic play making after the catch outside of Davante Adams. Lazard isn't going to cut it as a number two receiver next year; our offense needs more depth at those positions. I think they're going to aim for someone in the first, maybe even taking an additional person later on in the draft.

If you're going to credit Rodgers with elevating the scrubs (those not named "Davante Adams") on the team right now, you have to give similar credence to the idea that he'll prevent any pick from being a straight-up bust too. Though his righteous wrath over dropped passes and slightly-misrun routes will shake any rookie to their core.

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Postby Tombradyonia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:25 am

Ko-oren wrote:Draft comes ever closer, plenty of rumours of trades though. Nobody knows what's real anymore with every front office locked away in quarantine. Some rumours about my Lions trading back as well. Cincinnati sounds really locked in to #1, though.

#BooTheCommish still going strong too I see


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As for Gronk, he made it clear he wanted to play and didn't want to play for anyone else but TB12.
So essentially, we upgraded a 7th rounder to a 4th rounder in exchange for a player whom wouldn't have been on our roster anyway, plus Tampa Bay isn't on our schedule... unless its the SB ;)

Also, anyone else think 2020 season will be shortened?
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Ko-oren wrote:Draft comes ever closer, plenty of rumours of trades though. Nobody knows what's real anymore with every front office locked away in quarantine. Some rumours about my Lions trading back as well. Cincinnati sounds really locked in to #1, though.

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*BOO* :)

As for Gronk, he made it clear he wanted to play and didn't want to play for anyone else but TB12.
So essentially, we upgraded a 7th rounder to a 4th rounder in exchange for a player whom wouldn't have been on our roster anyway, plus Tampa Bay isn't on our schedule... unless its the SB ;)

Also, anyone else think 2020 season will be shortened?

We've a while to go until the start of the nfl, to early to make that prediction yet.
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Postby Ko-oren » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:41 am

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Ko-oren wrote:We've got too many gaps for this draft to fill. I just want a competent defence at this point

Tell me about it... having a good defense would be a first time.

2014 was the year. And it can happen again. As much flak as Patricia and Quinn get, there are steps. The Lions are 32nd in the league in offseason arrests and several other disciplinary categories. The culture seems good. We do need some results this year though.

As for shortening the season: the Bundesliga in Germany sounds like it's starting up again, without fans, but nothing's set in stone yet. A sudden surge in cases could postpone it further. Luckily for the NFL, it has the MLB to follow. If the MLB can make something work over the summer, there's a chance everything can go ahead as scheduled.
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Postby Ranoria » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:52 am

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'Freak,' I didn't particularly say incredibly productive, and there's a huge difference. 6'3", running a 4.33, in that range, yeah, you draft in the first round. Metcalf is a beast. Corey Davis? I think the dude had multiple 1,200 yard seasons and 10+ td seasons. He's a low end number 2.

And the fact that this draft is so talent heavy in the WR area means that its even better to wait on depth. If you can get a stud somewhere else in the first round, and then a very good WR later, that's better than drafting what very potentially ends up being a bust in the first round. Rodgers, yes, can elevate any of them, but if you're not significantly improving, then why spend the 1st round pick?

Again, I'd say OL or ILB. WR just isn't a good value pick in round 1, and that offensive line has deteriorated over the years. then grab a wideout later.
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Postby Saint Ryvern » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:01 pm

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'Freak,' I didn't particularly say incredibly productive, and there's a huge difference. 6'3", running a 4.33, in that range, yeah, you draft in the first round. Metcalf is a beast. Corey Davis? I think the dude had multiple 1,200 yard seasons and 10+ td seasons. He's a low end number 2.

And the fact that this draft is so talent heavy in the WR area means that its even better to wait on depth. If you can get a stud somewhere else in the first round, and then a very good WR later, that's better than drafting what very potentially ends up being a bust in the first round. Rodgers, yes, can elevate any of them, but if you're not significantly improving, then why spend the 1st round pick?

Again, I'd say OL or ILB. WR just isn't a good value pick in round 1, and that offensive line has deteriorated over the years. then grab a wideout later.

A lot of teams need WR help though, so if we wait too long than the good supply is going to be drained by the second or third round. When its an in-demand position you need to pounce a bit.

It's hard to say what the Packers do. We added to the OL, LB core, and WR crew in free agency, though none of those were huge signings. I think it'll be a WR; I'm hoping Mims or Aiyuk, but there's a few LBs that wouldn't leave me disappointed. I doubt it'll be OL. That's another deep position this draft. It's worth waiting when that position is deep, you know.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:14 pm

Tombradyonia wrote:
Ko-oren wrote:Draft comes ever closer, plenty of rumours of trades though. Nobody knows what's real anymore with every front office locked away in quarantine. Some rumours about my Lions trading back as well. Cincinnati sounds really locked in to #1, though.

#BooTheCommish still going strong too I see


*BOO* :)

As for Gronk, he made it clear he wanted to play and didn't want to play for anyone else but TB12.
So essentially, we upgraded a 7th rounder to a 4th rounder in exchange for a player whom wouldn't have been on our roster anyway, plus Tampa Bay isn't on our schedule... unless its the SB ;)

Also, anyone else think 2020 season will be shortened?


Yes. Season starts on time then shortened. This should be a choice in the poll. The NFL can't avoid this 2020 clusterfuck either.
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Postby Ranoria » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:46 pm

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'Freak,' I didn't particularly say incredibly productive, and there's a huge difference. 6'3", running a 4.33, in that range, yeah, you draft in the first round. Metcalf is a beast. Corey Davis? I think the dude had multiple 1,200 yard seasons and 10+ td seasons. He's a low end number 2.

And the fact that this draft is so talent heavy in the WR area means that its even better to wait on depth. If you can get a stud somewhere else in the first round, and then a very good WR later, that's better than drafting what very potentially ends up being a bust in the first round. Rodgers, yes, can elevate any of them, but if you're not significantly improving, then why spend the 1st round pick?

Again, I'd say OL or ILB. WR just isn't a good value pick in round 1, and that offensive line has deteriorated over the years. then grab a wideout later.

A lot of teams need WR help though, so if we wait too long than the good supply is going to be drained by the second or third round. When its an in-demand position you need to pounce a bit.

It's hard to say what the Packers do. We added to the OL, LB core, and WR crew in free agency, though none of those were huge signings. I think it'll be a WR; I'm hoping Mims or Aiyuk, but there's a few LBs that wouldn't leave me disappointed. I doubt it'll be OL. That's another deep position this draft. It's worth waiting when that position is deep, you know.

If there's one singular position that more teams need than any other, it's the offensive line. The entire league is suffering from a lack of talent in those positions. If they're going to jump on something because it's 'in demand,' that's the one. You're really contradicting yourself with that last couple of lines.

And again, even if there were only a few quality wideouts in this draft, I still wouldn't draft one in the first round, bar a freak like one of the ones I mentioned before. Henry Ruggs can run a 4.27, but hasn't consistently produced (despite an abnormally high amount of passing with Tua at Alabama). Maybe Ceedee Lamb, if I was really sold on him. Granted, I'm sure 3-4 will be off the board, but I don't think its a particularly good idea.
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Postby Ranoria » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:48 pm

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*BOO* :)

As for Gronk, he made it clear he wanted to play and didn't want to play for anyone else but TB12.
So essentially, we upgraded a 7th rounder to a 4th rounder in exchange for a player whom wouldn't have been on our roster anyway, plus Tampa Bay isn't on our schedule... unless its the SB ;)

Also, anyone else think 2020 season will be shortened?


Yes. Season starts on time then shortened. This should be a choice in the poll. The NFL can't avoid this 2020 clusterfuck either.

Why would it be shortened if it started on time? I'm not going to go into COVID because we'd get off topic quick, but quarantine is ending in a lot of states, and there's no foreseeable reason that the season would be shortened if they were able to start on time.
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Postby Saint Ryvern » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:49 pm

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Saint Ryvern wrote:A lot of teams need WR help though, so if we wait too long than the good supply is going to be drained by the second or third round. When its an in-demand position you need to pounce a bit.

It's hard to say what the Packers do. We added to the OL, LB core, and WR crew in free agency, though none of those were huge signings. I think it'll be a WR; I'm hoping Mims or Aiyuk, but there's a few LBs that wouldn't leave me disappointed. I doubt it'll be OL. That's another deep position this draft. It's worth waiting when that position is deep, you know.

If there's one singular position that more teams need than any other, it's the offensive line. The entire league is suffering from a lack of talent in those positions. If they're going to jump on something because it's 'in demand,' that's the one. You're really contradicting yourself with that last couple of lines.

And again, even if there were only a few quality wideouts in this draft, I still wouldn't draft one in the first round, bar a freak like one of the ones I mentioned before. Henry Ruggs can run a 4.27, but hasn't consistently produced (despite an abnormally high amount of passing with Tua at Alabama). Maybe Ceedee Lamb, if I was really sold on him. Granted, I'm sure 3-4 will be off the board, but I don't think its a particularly good idea.

I was mocking your stance with the last few lines. We’ll see what happens tonight.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:53 pm

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Yes. Season starts on time then shortened. This should be a choice in the poll. The NFL can't avoid this 2020 clusterfuck either.

Why would it be shortened if it started on time? I'm not going to go into COVID because we'd get off topic quick, but quarantine is ending in a lot of states, and there's no foreseeable reason that the season would be shortened if they were able to start on time.


What did the trusted Dr. Fauci and the head of CDC Dr.Redfield sy at yesterday's WH briefing? Second spike possibly worse than first. I trust them more than a morally/ethically bankrupt politician. There's no medical or scientific reason to think this virus is going away soon. Or even ever. This is no time to play Polyanna.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:00 pm

I just hope that the Saints get a good pick at the #24 Spot.
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Shazbotdom
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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:06 pm

#boothecommish
ShazWeb || IIWiki || Discord: shazbertbot || 1 x NFL Picks League Champion (2021)
CosmoCast || SISA || CCD || CrawDaddy || SCIA || COPEC || Boudreaux's || CLS || SNC || ShazAir || BHC || TWO
NHL: NYR 1 - 0 WSH | COL 0 - 1 WPG | VGK 0 - 0 DAL || NBA: NOLA (8) 0 - 1 OKC (1)
NCAA MBB: Tulane 22-18 | LSU 25-16 || NCAA WSB: LSU 35-10

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Postby Oxes Republic » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:16 pm

Patriots drafting Jacob Eason calling it now. In the first round
2023-2024 Buffalo Bills Season Failed

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Postby Oxes Republic » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:20 pm

Honestly this was very well done by the NFL. Keeping people safe and making it a fundraiser. Rare Win.


Watch it go to chaos immediatley as the Bengals draft Steve Montez, QB New Mexico
2023-2024 Buffalo Bills Season Failed

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