NFL Thread v2: The 2020 NFL Season!

[Impaled Nazarene]

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[Jerzylvania]

He damn well better go to prison, and I hope they beat him senseless in there. The dude’s a scumbag.

If everything is true then he probably does deserve prison time.

I just hope his son is safe and grows up happy and healthy.

Dude is one of the best offensive weapons in the game and he fucked it up. Blew his chance for millions, fame, and a rings. Now he is hated.

He should be banned from the league if all this is true. Other teams shouldn't be able to swoop in a year and profit off this.

This story makes me extremely sad. Having been similarly victimized myself as a small child, i personally have some idea as to how devastating this is for the 3 year old son of Mr. Hill and his fiancee Crystal Espinal. Also for the family itself.
The only good news is that it's out in the open and the boy should not endure another battering and will receive immediate treatment with regard to the full ramifications of the violence.

As for Hill, I hope he can own up to the full truth of his criminal battery of his son. Only the truth and a full measure of justice can set everyone involved here free ...well, at least it's the best chance they've got. Even if it takes a few years inside for Hill.

[Zurkerx]

If everything is true then he probably does deserve prison time.

I just hope his son is safe and grows up happy and healthy.

Dude is one of the best offensive weapons in the game and he fucked it up. Blew his chance for millions, fame, and a rings. Now he is hated.

He should be banned from the league if all this is true. Other teams shouldn't be able to swoop in a year and profit off this.

This story makes me extremely sad. Having been similarly victimized myself as a small child, i personally have some idea as to how devastating this is for the 3 year old son of Mr. Hill and his fiancee Crystal Espinal. Also for the family itself.
The only good news is that it's out in the open and the boy should not endure another battering and will receive immediate treatment with regard to the full ramifications of the violence.

As for Hill, I hope he can own up to the full truth of his criminal battery of his son. Only the truth and a full measure of justice can set everyone involved here free ...well, at least it's the best chance they've got. Even if it takes a few years inside for Hill.

So, the Chiefs don';t have Hunt or Hill anymore. Hmm, they may struggle a bit. It's ashamed: such great talent and they had to do stupid crap.

[Jerzylvania]

This story makes me extremely sad. Having been similarly victimized myself as a small child, i personally have some idea as to how devastating this is for the 3 year old son of Mr. Hill and his fiancee Crystal Espinal. Also for the family itself.
The only good news is that it's out in the open and the boy should not endure another battering and will receive immediate treatment with regard to the full ramifications of the violence.

As for Hill, I hope he can own up to the full truth of his criminal battery of his son. Only the truth and a full measure of justice can set everyone involved here free ...well, at least it's the best chance they've got. Even if it takes a few years inside for Hill.

So, the Chiefs don';t have Hunt or Hill anymore. Hmm, they may struggle a bit. It's ashamed: such great talent and they had to do stupid crap.

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

[Zurkerx]

So, the Chiefs don';t have Hunt or Hill anymore. Hmm, they may struggle a bit. It's ashamed: such great talent and they had to do stupid crap.

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

I do agree, although I was unaware of Hill's acts until recently. There needs to be a stronger regulation/crackdown on this kind of stuff.

[Jerzylvania]

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

I do agree, although I was unaware of Hill's acts until recently. There needs to be a stronger regulation/crackdown on this kind of stuff.

They did an efficient job of keeping a lid on it as if they've had a lot of practice at that, ugh. To me this isn't just about Hill but our society. The senseless violence that's perpetrated upon the defenseless in general.

As for child abuse cases, it's better law enforcement now than it was 55-60 years ago but it's still has a very long way to go. Especially with the enablers.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

I do agree, although I was unaware of Hill's acts until recently. There needs to be a stronger regulation/crackdown on this kind of stuff.

Do you mean within the nfl or wider society?
Wider society I'd agree, but I don't like the Goodell court handing out summary justice to players before the ordinary courts have even seen them.

[Impaled Nazarene]

If Goodell wasn't so arbitrary the problem wouldn't be so bad.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If Goodell wasn't so arbitrary the problem wouldn't be so bad.

If Goodell just treated all of these cases with 'the National Football League has no control over the ways players spend their private lives, we shall await the results of any investigation before taking action,' things would be better.

[Impaled Nazarene]

If Goodell wasn't so arbitrary the problem wouldn't be so bad.

If Goodell just treated all of these cases with 'the National Football League has no control over the ways players spend their private lives, we shall await the results of any investigation before taking action,' things would be better.

Considering how atrociously the real legal system treats domestic violence cases I disagree.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If Goodell just treated all of these cases with 'the National Football League has no control over the ways players spend their private lives, we shall await the results of any investigation before taking action,' things would be better.

Considering how atrociously the real legal system treats domestic violence cases I disagree.

So why should these players have to put up with a kangaroo court system, where justice plays second fiddle to the leagues public image?

[Jerzylvania]

I do agree, although I was unaware of Hill's acts until recently. There needs to be a stronger regulation/crackdown on this kind of stuff.

Do you mean within the nfl or wider society?
Wider society I'd agree, but I don't like the Goodell court handing out summary justice to players before the ordinary courts have even seen them.

Your point has some superficial merit. What if when you were a kid something terrible like this happened to you?

Then in fear of "Daddy" losing his job and the family breaking up Mommy and whoever else keep it quiet. Next you're told to never talk about it.

Finally they rationalize some BS to explain the violence to you. Then maybe buy you a toy. By now as a child you're totally confused. As a kid you can't process this and that is further psychological injury upon physical injury.

Then the cycle repeats numerous times. Can you imagine that horror?

Actually, in reality the whole thing is a total lose lose situation no matter if the boss fires Daddy or not. This is only collateral damage to that of the original victim of the violence.

Child abuse can not be tolerated. There must be zero tolerance of this sort of behavior.

Hill should be suspended.

[Pope Joan]

There should be a punishment for those who keep on making one bad prediction after another.

Bad on the draft

Even worse on anticipating a draftee's career

That guy with the funny updo on ESPN, who sounds like he's talking through clenched teeth, he's the worst

http://dailyupperdecker.com/tag/mel-kiper-sucks/

[Trollgaard]

So, the Chiefs don';t have Hunt or Hill anymore. Hmm, they may struggle a bit. It's ashamed: such great talent and they had to do stupid crap.

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

Hill would have been drafted by anyone in the league. He went in the 5th round. And by god he was great. People deserve second chances in life. Hill had his and wasted it. He shouldn't get a third- at least in the NFL.

And Kareem Hunt- I don't remember any concerns about him coming out the draft. I remember hearing about a couple incidents of altercations when he was out drinking in KC, but nothing terrible until the video came out. He was cut once the truth came out.

And what the hell do you think you are saying about Andy Reid? The man is a saint.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Do you mean within the nfl or wider society?
Wider society I'd agree, but I don't like the Goodell court handing out summary justice to players before the ordinary courts have even seen them.

Your point has some superficial merit. What if when you were a kid something terrible like this happened to you?

Then in fear of "Daddy" losing his job and the family breaking up Mommy and whoever else keep it quiet. Next you're told to never talk about it.

Finally they rationalize some BS to explain the violence to you. Then maybe buy you a toy. By now as a child you're totally confused. As a kid you can't process this and that is further psychological injury upon physical injury.

Then the cycle repeats numerous times. Can you imagine that horror?

Actually, in reality the whole thing is a total lose lose situation no matter if the boss fires Daddy or not. This is only collateral damage to that of the original victim of the violence.

Child abuse can not be tolerated. There must be zero tolerance of this sort of behavior.

Hill should be suspended.

Surely the problem is going to get worse if daddy loses his job?

[Ameriganastan]

There should be a punishment for those who keep on making one bad prediction after another.

Bad on the draft

Even worse on anticipating a draftee's career

That guy with the funny updo on ESPN, who sounds like he's talking through clenched teeth, he's the worst

http://dailyupperdecker.com/tag/mel-kiper-sucks/

Yeah, Mel Kiper is a stooge. Glad the draft is over, cause he drops off TV after it's done til next draft.

[Jerzylvania]

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

Hill would have been drafted by anyone in the league. He went in the 5th round. And by god he was great. People deserve second chances in life. Hill had his and wasted it. He shouldn't get a third- at least in the NFL.

And Kareem Hunt- I don't remember any concerns about him coming out the draft. I remember hearing about a couple incidents of altercations when he was out drinking in KC, but nothing terrible until the video came out. He was cut once the truth came out.

And what the hell do you think you are saying about Andy Reid? The man is a saint.

A saint? My argument is chiefly... the judge in his son's criminal case would likely differ...

Judge Steven O'Neill who sentenced Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid's sons to jail likened the coach's home to "a drug emporium" and questioned whether his adult sons should live there.

He further added "There isn't any structure there that this court can depend upon." ----> http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3089753

Your point has some superficial merit. What if when you were a kid something terrible like this happened to you?

Then in fear of "Daddy" losing his job and the family breaking up Mommy and whoever else keep it quiet. Next you're told to never talk about it.

Finally they rationalize some BS to explain the violence to you. Then maybe buy you a toy. By now as a child you're totally confused. As a kid you can't process this and that is further psychological injury upon physical injury.

Then the cycle repeats numerous times. Can you imagine that horror?

Actually, in reality the whole thing is a total lose lose situation no matter if the boss fires Daddy or not. This is only collateral damage to that of the original victim of the violence.

Child abuse can not be tolerated. There must be zero tolerance of this sort of behavior.

Hill should be suspended.

Surely the problem is going to get worse if daddy loses his job?

That's strictly on your Daddy. It's no one else's fault. Daddy should act like a responsible adult or face the consequences. Most private and publicly held businesses don't want irresponsible people in their employ.
Would you want your kid's teacher or your kid's principal to be irresponsible? Would you tolerate that? I hope not.

We had this principal of a HS in my county who had affairs with a couple of the underage girls attending his school. Once this was revealed he was suspended immediately and eventually got incarcerated for 4 years.

Same logic can work for Mr. Hill, a suspension ...and I hope the door hits him on the ass on the way out of the NFL. A jailhouse door slamming may be the next door he encounters.

[Far Easter Republic]

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[Idzequitch]

Raiders RB Isaiah Crowell tore his Achilles, and will have surgery that will keep him off the field for the 2019 season.

[Luminesa]

There should be a punishment for those who keep on making one bad prediction after another.

Bad on the draft

Even worse on anticipating a draftee's career

That guy with the funny updo on ESPN, who sounds like he's talking through clenched teeth, he's the worst

http://dailyupperdecker.com/tag/mel-kiper-sucks/

Yeah, Mel Kiper is a stooge. Glad the draft is over, cause he drops off TV after it's done til next draft.

Also still wears his hear like it’s 1982.

[Luminesa]

So, the Chiefs don';t have Hunt or Hill anymore. Hmm, they may struggle a bit. It's ashamed: such great talent and they had to do stupid crap.

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

Well that’s disturbing.

Of course, so is punching a pregnant woman. Geez Louise, what a sack of horse manure.

[Ameriganastan]

Haskins to wear #7.

Dwayne, does the phrase 'Tempting fate' mean anything to you?

[Idzequitch]

Jamaal Charles signed a one day contract with Kansas City so he can retire as a Chief.

[Jerzylvania]

Serves them right. They knew before they drafted Hill he had punched his woman in the stomach while pregnant in 2014. Yet they still picked him.

BTW, stupid crap in this case can also be characterized as criminal acts. I wonder if Andy Reid has an understanding deficit in this area? I've heard nothing good about his own 2 sons. Both of which went to jail. One of which is now dead.

Well that’s disturbing.

Of course, so is punching a pregnant woman. Geez Louise, what a sack of horse manure.

He's a dump truck, full of it. Stinks so bad!

Haskins to wear #7.

Dwayne, does the phrase 'Tempting fate' mean anything to you?

Lawrence Taylor ain't around and the rules have changed in favor of keeping the QBs healthy. He could even decide to wear 13.

[Idzequitch]

This thread makes me sad this time of year. There's literally almost nothing to talk about. Draft pick signings are starting to happen, but that's really not too noteworthy. September, hurry up!