NFL Thread v2: The 2020 NFL Season!

[Idzequitch]

Sunday night's game will feature two pairs of brothers:

Center Maurkice Pouncey and LB TJ Watt of Pittsburgh face off with Center Mike Pouncey and FB Derek Watt of the Chargers.

Conceivably, TJ could tackle his brother in this game.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

She called him the n-word, got up in his face and started slapping him, then began following him around apparently. Yeah, he went too far but it seems he was prevoked.

The chiefs acted very quickly and didn't do enough to investigate it seems.

Provocation doesn't give him license to beat her up. The woman is not blameless by any means, but you just can't do what he did in response. It's illegal.

The Chiefs acted quickly because they already knew about the incident, had discussed it with Hunt, and what he told them didn't match what they saw. Employers don't like being lied to. Plus the video is pretty self-explanatory. I can't think of many circumstances that would have validated his actions.

That's true, but their is an organisation that's supposed to deal with issues of this kind, well...several actually. They're not the Kansas city chiefs.

[Idzequitch]

Provocation doesn't give him license to beat her up. The woman is not blameless by any means, but you just can't do what he did in response. It's illegal.

The Chiefs acted quickly because they already knew about the incident, had discussed it with Hunt, and what he told them didn't match what they saw. Employers don't like being lied to. Plus the video is pretty self-explanatory. I can't think of many circumstances that would have validated his actions.

That's true, but their is an organisation that's supposed to deal with issues of this kind, well...several actually. They're not the Kansas city chiefs.

Sure, leave the legal process to the folks whose job it is. Meanwhile, if Hunt fails to live up to the personal conduct standards the Chiefs require of their employees, they're well within their rights to terminate him.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

That's true, but their is an organisation that's supposed to deal with issues of this kind, well...several actually. They're not the Kansas city chiefs.

Sure, leave the legal process to the folks whose job it is. Meanwhile, if Hunt fails to live up to the personal conduct standards the Chiefs require of their employees, they're well within their rights to terminate him.

It doesn't mean it isn't self-destructive idiocy though, gotta put the team above your moral code.

[Idzequitch]

Sure, leave the legal process to the folks whose job it is. Meanwhile, if Hunt fails to live up to the personal conduct standards the Chiefs require of their employees, they're well within their rights to terminate him.

It doesn't mean it isn't self-destructive idiocy though, gotta put the team above your moral code.

That's where we disagree. Success at all costs is not a good model. Especially since their reputation suffers when they continue to roster and start a man of questionable moral fiber.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Just to point out as well, he's likely to be in a holding cell by the end of next week given the video. Why waste the roster spot?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

It doesn't mean it isn't self-destructive idiocy though, gotta put the team above your moral code.

That's where we disagree. Success at all costs is not a good model. Especially since their reputation suffers when they continue to roster and start a man of questionable moral fiber.

I can only see it being a problem if other players refuse to sign with them because of it, or their's a large enough fan boycott.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Just to point out as well, he's likely to be in a holding cell by the end of next week given the video. Why waste the roster spot?

I heard the police weren't looking at charging him?

[Jerzylvania]

Just to point out as well, he's likely to be in a holding cell by the end of next week given the video. Why waste the roster spot?

Good point.
Also, most fans are actually sane and don't want to cheer for a wife beater or some other kind of felon.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Just to point out as well, he's likely to be in a holding cell by the end of next week given the video. Why waste the roster spot?

Good point.
Also, most fans are actually sane and don't want to cheer for a wife beater or some other kind of felon.

If the Giants cut Barkley or Beckham for something of this kind I would not be happy in the slightest, let the police worry about the law and let the giants try and remember how to win football games.

[Idzequitch]

Good point.
Also, most fans are actually sane and don't want to cheer for a wife beater or some other kind of felon.

If the Giants cut Barkley or Beckham for something of this kind I would not be happy in the slightest, let the police worry about the law and let the giants try and remember how to win football games.

Well, no. No one is happy about it. We all wish that all the best talent would be in the league. And probably it would be if these people could just follow the law.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If the Giants cut Barkley or Beckham for something of this kind I would not be happy in the slightest, let the police worry about the law and let the giants try and remember how to win football games.

Well, no. No one is happy about it. We all wish that all the best talent would be in the league. And probably it would be if these people could just follow the law.

If he isn't charged for it he isn't charged for it.

[Idzequitch]

Well, no. No one is happy about it. We all wish that all the best talent would be in the league. And probably it would be if these people could just follow the law.

If he isn't charged for it he isn't charged for it.

So they should just congratulate him for getting away with it? Especially in a case like this where there's no remotely rational way to deny he did it? No. That's not the world I want to live in. Thanks anyway.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If he isn't charged for it he isn't charged for it.

So they should just congratulate him for getting away with it? Especially in a case like this where there's no remotely rational way to deny he did it? No. That's not the world I want to live in. Thanks anyway.

They should breathe a sigh of relief and warn him not to be such an idiot again.

[Idzequitch]

So they should just congratulate him for getting away with it? Especially in a case like this where there's no remotely rational way to deny he did it? No. That's not the world I want to live in. Thanks anyway.

They should breathe a sigh of relief and warn him not to be such an idiot again.

But they're not relieved. They're repulsed. As they should be. And with that, I think my thoughts on the matter are clear and I will end this discussion here.

[Jerzylvania]

Good point.
Also, most fans are actually sane and don't want to cheer for a wife beater or some other kind of felon.

If the Giants cut Barkley or Beckham for something of this kind I would not be happy in the slightest, let the police worry about the law and let the giants try and remember how to win football games.

IIRC you went through all of this nonsense the last time an NFL player got arrested and got the boot. Your argument is still no better than the last time.

Well, no. No one is happy about it. We all wish that all the best talent would be in the league. And probably it would be if these people could just follow the law.

If he isn't charged for it he isn't charged for it.

They aren't the only people Kareem Hunt has to answer to in the matter. There is the Hunt family, no relation, which must consider PR. Most of the public doesn't want to cheer for a guy (making a huge salary playing football) which they saw beat a woman on video. And these people know their kids probably saw him beat a woman on Facebook or whatever. I don't blame the KC Chiefs here for making a business decision. Or the league, as they have rights too.

[Idzequitch]

If the Giants cut Barkley or Beckham for something of this kind I would not be happy in the slightest, let the police worry about the law and let the giants try and remember how to win football games.

IIRC you went through all of this nonsense the last time an NFL player got arrested and got the boot. Your argument is still no better than the last time.

If he isn't charged for it he isn't charged for it.

They aren't the only people Kareem Hunt has to answer to in the matter. There is the Hunt family, no relation, which must consider PR. Most of the public doesn't want to cheer for a guy (making a huge salary playing football) which they saw beat a woman on video. And these people know their kids probably saw him beat a woman on Facebook or whatever. I don't blame the KC Chiefs here for making a business decision. Or the league, as they have rights too.

To be honest, this shows a stronger spine in the Chiefs' office than I believed any of the NFL front offices had. I hope other teams will make the same call if/when they face a similar situation. If players who beat people up don't stay on their teams, maybe players will think twice before beating someone up. Otherwise they can give up their giant salaries. Whichever they prefer, I suppose.

[Ameriganastan]

I've gotta stop thinking football teams from Georgia won't fuck up sure things...

[Idzequitch]

I've gotta stop thinking football teams from Georgia won't fuck up sure things...

They learned from the best in the business

A shame though, honestly.

[Ranoria]

Storm the NFL Headquarters and do what's right!

In other news, one of the leagues best running backs, Kareem Hunt, maybe in deep trouble now since this Video appeared.

The really sad thing is that the league has been aware of this for months, but it takes a video surfacing to kick their sorry butts into gear. If it takes video to force the NFL to do something, that sets a terrible precedent, as many violent incidents are not recorded.

What, so they should cut and suspend him indefinitely based on a woman saying she got hit? It’s too easy to falsely accuse a guy of something and get away with it.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The really sad thing is that the league has been aware of this for months, but it takes a video surfacing to kick their sorry butts into gear. If it takes video to force the NFL to do something, that sets a terrible precedent, as many violent incidents are not recorded.

What, so they should cut and suspend him indefinitely based on a woman saying she got hit? It’s too easy to falsely accuse a guy of something and get away with it.

No they shouldn't do anything at all if he wasn't charged for it.

[Mystic Warriors]

The really sad thing is that the league has been aware of this for months, but it takes a video surfacing to kick their sorry butts into gear. If it takes video to force the NFL to do something, that sets a terrible precedent, as many violent incidents are not recorded.

What, so they should cut and suspend him indefinitely based on a woman saying she got hit? It’s too easy to falsely accuse a guy of something and get away with it.

Welcome to the metoo era.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

What, so they should cut and suspend him indefinitely based on a woman saying she got hit? It’s too easy to falsely accuse a guy of something and get away with it.

Welcome to the metoo era.

I think the metoo movement did a lot more harm than good, but that's for another thread.

[Kohr]

Welcome to the metoo era.

I think the metoo movement did a lot more harm than good, but that's for another thread.

I agree that's for another thread. I also think the Chiefs were absolutely in the right by getting rid of Hunt, but I'm not going to try to convince any of you of that.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I think the metoo movement did a lot more harm than good, but that's for another thread.

I agree that's for another thread. I also think the Chiefs were absolutely in the right by getting rid of Hunt, but I'm not going to try to convince any of you of that.

Just hope that a team which appreciates his skill picks him up.