LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[The New California Republic]

I have actually blocked the YouTube comment section in my browser, because it never contains anything even remotely interesting.

Is there like an extension for that or do you just use a custom script or CSS or something? I sometimes can't tear my eyes away from the YouTube comments section (like with a bad car wreck) and this would be helpful.

I use an ad blocker. Many ad blockers allow you to customise which elements on the page to block.

[Valrifell]

These goalposts are moving so hard that they could help the Patriots win yet another Super Bowl!

In his defense, the three examples of libertarian socialism that you have provided (the Zapatistas, Rojava and Revolutionary Catalonia) have all risen up in what are effectively weakened/failed states or states that are at war with other groups, they never appear during peacetime or in a stable state.

It’s a system that works...until the state is done dealing with the other groups and crushes them. Hell, the CNT got crushed by the Spanish Communist Party.

To be fair, liberal capitalism only popped up through violent uprisings for the longest time and were equally crushed under the iron foot of most states.

Transitions to non-traditional power structures have never been peaceful.

[Valrifell]

The only terrible thing about Lefttube comments are the fascist trolls.

Or, y’know, the otherizing folk.

I never get that far in the comment section, I always get caught up in the praising of Soybek.

[Torrocca]

These goalposts are moving so hard that they could help the Patriots win yet another Super Bowl!

lol I'm not even moving them. i'm just responding to your silly comment.

Nah, you are. It's not my issue if you're gonna pretend you aren't doing exactly that.

These goalposts are moving so hard that they could help the Patriots win yet another Super Bowl!

In his defense, the three examples of libertarian socialism that you have provided (the Zapatistas, Rojava and Revolutionary Catalonia) have all risen up in what are effectively weakened/failed states or states that are at war with other groups, they never appear during peacetime or in a stable state.

It’s a system that works...until the state is done dealing with the other groups and crushes them. Hell, the CNT got crushed by the Spanish Communist Party.

Against his defense, the exact same argument can be made for other ideologies that only really began through revolutions.

Liberalism didn't properly thrive until people that believed in it began winning.

[Yusseria]

lol I'm not even moving them. i'm just responding to your silly comment.

Nah, you are. It's not my issue if you're gonna pretend you aren't doing exactly that.

In his defense, the three examples of libertarian socialism that you have provided (the Zapatistas, Rojava and Revolutionary Catalonia) have all risen up in what are effectively weakened/failed states or states that are at war with other groups, they never appear during peacetime or in a stable state.

It’s a system that works...until the state is done dealing with the other groups and crushes them. Hell, the CNT got crushed by the Spanish Communist Party.

Against his defense, the exact same argument can be made for other ideologies that only really began through revolutions.

Liberalism didn't properly thrive until people that believed in it began winning.

uh-huh. you brought up the Zapatista rebels, and then shifted and started talking about revolutions again, which they never actually waged anyway. not really my fault you can't stick to a coherent point.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Also, Lefttube now has Donkey Kong and Sobek on its side, so it cannot possibly be bad.

Ok, I give up.

[Arcturus Novus]

Also, Lefttube now has Donkey Kong and Sobek on its side, so it cannot possibly be bad.

As it should be.

[Torrocca]

Nah, you are. It's not my issue if you're gonna pretend you aren't doing exactly that.



Against his defense, the exact same argument can be made for other ideologies that only really began through revolutions.

Liberalism didn't properly thrive until people that believed in it began winning.

uh-huh. you brought up the Zapatista rebels, and then shifted and started talking about revolutions again, which they never actually waged anyway. not really my fault you can't stick to a coherent point.

The Zapatistas: *wage a revolution that leaves them in control of half of Chiapas within Mexico*
You: "I-It doesn't count!!1!"

[Kowani]

uh-huh. you brought up the Zapatista rebels, and then shifted and started talking about revolutions again, which they never actually waged anyway. not really my fault you can't stick to a coherent point.

The Zapatistas: *wage a revolution that leaves them in control of half of Chiapas within Mexico*
You: "I-It doesn't count!!1!"

That’s more a mark against Mexico’s Armed Forces than one for the Zapatistas.

[Yusseria]

uh-huh. you brought up the Zapatista rebels, and then shifted and started talking about revolutions again, which they never actually waged anyway. not really my fault you can't stick to a coherent point.

The Zapatistas: *wage a revolution that leaves them in control of half of Chiapas within Mexico*
You: "I-It doesn't count!!1!"

They're insurgents, not revolutionaries. They haven't overthrown the Mexican government or the capitalist system in Mexico. In fact, if they faced the Mexican military in open combat they'd be massacred. That's why they hide in the mountains.

[Liriena]

As it should be.

Donkey Kong is ally goals.

[Torrocca]

The Zapatistas: *wage a revolution that leaves them in control of half of Chiapas within Mexico*
You: "I-It doesn't count!!1!"

They're insurgents, not revolutionaries. They haven't overthrown the Mexican government or the capitalist system in Mexico. In fact, if they faced the Mexican military in open combat they'd be massacred. That's why they hide in the mountains.

They're revolutionaries. They didn't strive to overthrow the Mexican government because that wasn't the intended goal of their revolution.

[Yusseria]

They're insurgents, not revolutionaries. They haven't overthrown the Mexican government or the capitalist system in Mexico. In fact, if they faced the Mexican military in open combat they'd be massacred. That's why they hide in the mountains.

They're revolutionaries. They didn't strive to overthrow the Mexican government because that wasn't the intended goal of their revolution.

so they aren't overthrowing the government or the social order in Mexico. but they're totally still revolutionaries.

they're just insurgents. get over it.

i really don't understand this left wing fetishism for revolutions.

[Torrocca]

They're revolutionaries. They didn't strive to overthrow the Mexican government because that wasn't the intended goal of their revolution.

so they aren't overthrowing the government or the social order in Mexico. but they're totally still revolutionaries.

Considering they're in open revolt against the Mexican state? Yes.

they're just insurgents. get over it.

Insurgents are literally defined as revolutionaries lmao

i really don't understand this left wing fetishism for revolutions.

And I really don't understand this bullshit attempt at a misrepresentation of the truth that's happening here simply because you're wrong.

[Yusseria]

so they aren't overthrowing the government or the social order in Mexico. but they're totally still revolutionaries.

Considering they're in open revolt against the Mexican state? Yes.

they're just insurgents. get over it.

Insurgents are literally defined as revolutionaries lmao

i really don't understand this left wing fetishism for revolutions.

And I really don't understand this bullshit attempt at a misrepresentation of the truth that's happening here simply because you're wrong.

eh, fine. they still suck, though.

[Torrocca]

Considering they're in open revolt against the Mexican state? Yes.



Insurgents are literally defined as revolutionaries lmao



And I really don't understand this bullshit attempt at a misrepresentation of the truth that's happening here simply because you're wrong.

eh, fine. they still suck, though.

I'll accept your concession regardless of the continued attempts at shifting the goalposts of your argument.

[Yusseria]

eh, fine. they still suck, though.

I'll accept your concession regardless of the continued attempts at shifting the goalposts of your argument.

[Pasong Tirad]

HARRY POTTER IS COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA CONFIRMED (altho not rly)

[Western Vale Confederacy]

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HARRY POTTER IS COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA CONFIRMED (altho not rly)

Unironically the best advice for minorities, but of course, liberals and their self-disarmament fetish...

[Grenartia]

Or, y’know, the otherizing folk.

I never get that far in the comment section, I always get caught up in the praising of Soybek.

May he grant us all bountiful semen.

As it should be.

Donkey Kong is ally goals.

Together, we will bother those beavers!

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

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HARRY POTTER IS COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA CONFIRMED (altho not rly)

A bit long, but other than that, it's pretty dank I guess.

[West Leas Oros 2]

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HARRY POTTER IS COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA CONFIRMED (altho not rly)

Finally, Harry Potter becomes more than just liberal shit.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

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HARRY POTTER IS COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA CONFIRMED (altho not rly)

Finally, Harry Potter becomes more than just liberal shit.

Liberals: *calls for gun bans*

Rightists: "wtf bro thats bad"

Actual leftists: "wtf i agree with the conservatives now"

[West Leas Oros 2]

Finally, Harry Potter becomes more than just liberal shit.

Liberals: *calls for gun bans*

Rightists: "wtf bro thats bad"

Actual leftists: "wtf i agree with the conservatives now"

If it weren’t for the constant fearmongering, I bet a lot of conservatives would have been communists.

[The New California Republic]

Finally, Harry Potter becomes more than just liberal shit.

Liberals: *calls for gun bans*

Rightists: "wtf bro thats bad"

Actual leftists: "wtf i agree with the conservatives now"

In terms of leftist theory, for example Marxism, there is substantial emphasis on the arming of the workers, it's just that it is often ignored as an example of pro-gun rights.