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Which Form of Leftism is The Best?

Left-Libertarianism
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Yes
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Left-Authoritarianism
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 am

Asherahan wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:"Best authoritarianism" is like "best fecal matter."

Scary part is I am not memeing.

I already know. But I don't already know why. For the love of god, why?
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Postby Asherahan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:33 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Scary part is I am not memeing.

I already know. But I don't already know why. For the love of god, why?

Probably because I believe what I say.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:40 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Mardla wrote:The Constitution's definition.


Which people have been debating for more than two centuries.

Not Yankees.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:41 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:It legit baffles me that people can consider white Hispanics non-white. For fucks sake, even the black ones are, well, fucking Hispanic. They have a European civilization. What's the goddamn problem here?

They're catholic and socially conservative?

yeah that's kind of fucked, but the protestants in Murica aren't exactly Anglicans you know.

I seriously doubt anyone considers Ted Cruz to be other than white
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Progressive left authoritarianism is best Authoritarianism.

"Best authoritarianism" is like "best fecal matter."

That sounds pretty anal retentive of you, which, according to Adorno's F-scale, is indicative of an authoritarian personality.
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Postby Asherahan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:59 am

Mardla wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:"Best authoritarianism" is like "best fecal matter."

That sounds pretty anal retentive of you, which, according to Adorno's F-scale, is indicative of an authoritarian personality.

I know what I believe and Am which perplexes him.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 am

Mardla wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Which people have been debating for more than two centuries.

Not Yankees.


Don't know what a very successful baseball team has to do with this.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:24 am

Reikoku wrote:There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

I stopped reading when I realized that he was just regurgitating the same old white supremacist propaganda about the (false) genocidal peril supposedly faced by white South Africans today.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:25 am

Mardla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It legit baffles me that people can consider white Hispanics non-white. For fucks sake, even the black ones are, well, fucking Hispanic. They have a European civilization. What's the goddamn problem here?

They're catholic and socially conservative?

yeah that's kind of fucked, but the protestants in Murica aren't exactly Anglicans you know.

I seriously doubt anyone considers Ted Cruz to be other than white

So his skin suit is working! :twisted:
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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 am

Hot Take.

WaPo is secretely run by edgy interns who finally cannot contain themselves, and are going all out by depicting Cortez by the greedy Jew meme (in their latest pic).
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:31 am

Benuty wrote:Hot Take.

WaPo is secretely run by edgy interns who finally cannot contain themselves, and are going all out by depicting Cortez by the greedy Jew meme (in their latest pic).

Oh gawd yeah, I saw that.

I swear, the people in charge of choosing pictures of her in many outlets are just assholes.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:00 am

Liriena wrote:
Benuty wrote:Hot Take.

WaPo is secretely run by edgy interns who finally cannot contain themselves, and are going all out by depicting Cortez by the greedy Jew meme (in their latest pic).

Oh gawd yeah, I saw that.

I swear, the people in charge of choosing pictures of her in many outlets are just assholes.

What’s this? Partisan media? Everybody drink.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:22 am

Asherahan wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I already know. But I don't already know why. For the love of god, why?

Probably because I believe what I say.

But why tho?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:24 am

Liriena wrote:
Benuty wrote:Hot Take.

WaPo is secretely run by edgy interns who finally cannot contain themselves, and are going all out by depicting Cortez by the greedy Jew meme (in their latest pic).

Oh gawd yeah, I saw that.

I swear, the people in charge of choosing pictures of her in many outlets are just assholes.


Welcome to every news outlet ever, scrolling through every frame of every picture and video to find the least attractive shot of the person they want to smear.

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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:37 am

Benuty wrote:Hot Take.

WaPo is secretely run by edgy interns who finally cannot contain themselves, and are going all out by depicting Cortez by the greedy Jew meme (in their latest pic).

I thought it was pretty funny, at least now I know that pinko rag has a sense of humor.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:44 am

Mardla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It legit baffles me that people can consider white Hispanics non-white. For fucks sake, even the black ones are, well, fucking Hispanic. They have a European civilization. What's the goddamn problem here?

They're catholic and socially conservative?

yeah that's kind of fucked, but the protestants in Murica aren't exactly Anglicans you know.

I seriously doubt anyone considers Ted Cruz to be other than white


Have you seen some of the far-right videos? Whether on normal days they consider him white or not doesn't change the fact that the instant he opposed a candidate escalating white nationalism he became a "spic". His membership in the group is conditional.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:51 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Mardla wrote:I seriously doubt anyone considers Ted Cruz to be other than white


Have you seen some of the far-right videos? Whether on normal days they consider him white or not doesn't change the fact that the instant he opposed a candidate escalating white nationalism he became a "spic". His membership in the group is conditional.

I am "far-right" and kick it with the far-right online. Never seen that. When we .mocked him, it was always this meme

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-delegates-donald

Now it's used endearingly. "El Ratto" was a nickname I suppose (no longer), but calling him racial slurs was never common. If he was mocked as foreigner, it was as a Canadian.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:19 am

Mardla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Have you seen some of the far-right videos? Whether on normal days they consider him white or not doesn't change the fact that the instant he opposed a candidate escalating white nationalism he became a "spic". His membership in the group is conditional.

I am "far-right" and kick it with the far-right online. Never seen that. When we .mocked him, it was always this meme

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-delegates-donald

Now it's used endearingly. "El Ratto" was a nickname I suppose (no longer), but calling him racial slurs was never common. If he was mocked as foreigner, it was as a Canadian.

Darn Canadians! They keep bringing crime, and drugs, and they're rapists! some i assume are good people. :^)
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:21 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Mardla wrote:I am "far-right" and kick it with the far-right online. Never seen that. When we .mocked him, it was always this meme

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-delegates-donald

Now it's used endearingly. "El Ratto" was a nickname I suppose (no longer), but calling him racial slurs was never common. If he was mocked as foreigner, it was as a Canadian.

Darn Canadians! They keep bringing crime, and drugs, and they're rapists! some i assume are good people. :^)

They should change their flag to a weed leaf.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:45 am

Mardla wrote:Not Yankees.


I am talking about the court system.
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:47 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Mardla wrote:Not Yankees.


I am talking about the court system.

You mean the court's jurisprudence, or...?
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:13 pm

Mardla wrote:You mean the court's jurisprudence, or...?


My point is that the courts have the authority to interpret the U.S. Constitution. Over the years, courts have disagreed on many issues, including treason. Even the Supreme Court has changed its views on the subject. If you are going to accuse me of advocating treason, which is rather silly anyway, I have a right to know what you are talking about. To be honest, I don't even know why I am responding to the issue.

Come to think of it, I shall end this topic, on my end, here and now.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:06 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:What should be done in response to South Africas escalating actions against whites in their nation?


As we all know, of course, in this left-wing thread where we argue for the liberty of all people, it's blatantly obvious that the white South Africans deserve to be completely and utterly eradicated. Let's let them be driven into a bloody ocean of genocide, of course.

Whatever it is that you're smoking I advise that you stop lest it dissolve your brain.

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Reikoku wrote:There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

I stopped reading when I realized that he was just regurgitating the same old white supremacist propaganda about the (false) genocidal peril supposedly faced by white South Africans today.

They're definitely on a direct course to full-on genocide instead of just pulling a Zimbabwe and starving themselves out of racism. Time will tell if they actually go the full nine yards, or stop cold once food shortages start to kick in. But it's definitely worth keeping an eye out for. Don't just jam your fingers in your ears.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:08 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
As we all know, of course, in this left-wing thread where we argue for the liberty of all people, it's blatantly obvious that the white South Africans deserve to be completely and utterly eradicated. Let's let them be driven into a bloody ocean of genocide, of course.

Whatever it is that you're smoking I advise that you stop lest it dissolve your brain.


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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:10 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Whatever it is that you're smoking I advise that you stop lest it dissolve your brain.


Seems my sarcasm's made someone uncomfortable :^)

Your unprovoked sarcasm implies a hint of truth within it :^)
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