LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Torrocca]

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

Come on, we all know that no civilization deserved to exist.

Humanity was a mistake.

Make Earth All Natural Again!

[The Liberated Territories]

Torrocca wants to go back to a time before capitalism didn't exist and we just brained each other with stones.

[Torrocca]

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

....Why would you even say that?

Anarchy's why. :3

Torrocca wants to go back to a time before capitalism didn't exist and we just brained each other with stones.

This but unironically lmao

[Salus Maior]

....Why would you even say that?

Anarchy's why. :3

So you hate the civilization that ideology came from?

[Torrocca]

Anarchy's why. :3

So you hate the civilization that ideology came from?

Anarchist philosophy was merely put to words in the books of western civilization, but by no means was it ever a product of western civilization.

[Northern Davincia]

Anarchy's why. :3

So you hate the civilization that ideology came from?

Anprims are tricksters of the highest order.

[Salus Maior]

So you hate the civilization that ideology came from?

Anarchist philosophy was merely put to words in the books of western civilization, but by no means was it ever a product of western civilization.

If it was created by Western philosophers then it absolutely is a product of western civilization.

As are you, personally.

[Torrocca]

So you hate the civilization that ideology came from?

Anprims are tricksters of the highest order.

Thank goodness I'm not an AnPrim. :3

[Liriena]

Dr Layman is really good. Never heard of Essence of Thought though.

Essence of Thought was a very minor but growing channel a couple years back, but then they committed the cardinal sin of criticising other "skeptics" like "The Amazing Atheist" for being a lot dumber than they thought they were and immediately lost a bunch of subscribers. They make lots of good content still, most of it criticising religion and anti-LGBT+ bullcrap (including that of the TERF variety).

I'd actually consider adding ShoeOnHead to the list of decent "skeptics", now that I think about it. Although I still think her video on how Trump was totally going to be alright to LGBT+ people and LGBT+ people had nothing to worry about was pure, distilled stupidity (made all the cringier with the benefit of hindsight).

[Liriena]

HAH, implying Western Civ can be saved.

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

"Western civilization" couldn't even hold a single nation from the classical era relatively intact all the way into the modern age. Clearly, Chinese civilization is the superior one.

[Salus Maior]

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

"Western civilization" couldn't even hold a single nation from the classical era relatively intact all the way into the modern age. Clearly, Chinese civilization is the superior one.

Have you ever heard of the Opium Wars?

And it's funny how you take one statement about Western civilization and take it to be a statement of superiority when superiority had nothing to do with it.

Going along with your programming pretty well I see.

[Northern Davincia]

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

"Western civilization" couldn't even hold a single nation from the classical era relatively intact all the way into the modern age. Clearly, Chinese civilization is the superior one.

wat

[Liriena]

"Western civilization" couldn't even hold a single nation from the classical era relatively intact all the way into the modern age. Clearly, Chinese civilization is the superior one.

Have you ever heard of the Opium Wars?

Even their wars get the cooler names.

[Torrocca]

Anarchist philosophy was merely put to words in the books of western civilization, but by no means was it ever a product of western civilization.

If it was created by Western philosophers then it absolutely is a product of western civilization.

Anarchism in idea and practice existed well before Western civilization, actually.

As are you, personally.

Florida is an anomalous rip in the space-time continuum, not a product of Western civilization.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Dr Layman is really good. Never heard of Essence of Thought though.

Essence of Thought was a very minor but growing channel a couple years back, but then they committed the cardinal sin of criticising other "skeptics" like "The Amazing Atheist" for being a lot dumber than they thought they were and immediately lost a bunch of subscribers. They make lots of good content still, most of it criticising religion and anti-LGBT+ bullcrap (including that of the TERF variety).

I'd actually consider adding ShoeOnHead to the list of decent "skeptics", now that I think about it. Although I still think her video on how Trump was totally going to be alright to LGBT+ people and LGBT+ people had nothing to worry about was pure, distilled stupidity (made all the cringier with the benefit of hindsight).

What did Trump do wrong to LGBT people other than not allowing trans people to join the military which, while bad, is extremely minor.

[Torrocca]

Essence of Thought was a very minor but growing channel a couple years back, but then they committed the cardinal sin of criticising other "skeptics" like "The Amazing Atheist" for being a lot dumber than they thought they were and immediately lost a bunch of subscribers. They make lots of good content still, most of it criticising religion and anti-LGBT+ bullcrap (including that of the TERF variety).

I'd actually consider adding ShoeOnHead to the list of decent "skeptics", now that I think about it. Although I still think her video on how Trump was totally going to be alright to LGBT+ people and LGBT+ people had nothing to worry about was pure, distilled stupidity (made all the cringier with the benefit of hindsight).

What did Trump do wrong to LGBT people other than not allowing trans people to join the military which, while bad, is extremely minor.

I feel like this might sum it up well enough.

[Liriena]

Essence of Thought was a very minor but growing channel a couple years back, but then they committed the cardinal sin of criticising other "skeptics" like "The Amazing Atheist" for being a lot dumber than they thought they were and immediately lost a bunch of subscribers. They make lots of good content still, most of it criticising religion and anti-LGBT+ bullcrap (including that of the TERF variety).

I'd actually consider adding ShoeOnHead to the list of decent "skeptics", now that I think about it. Although I still think her video on how Trump was totally going to be alright to LGBT+ people and LGBT+ people had nothing to worry about was pure, distilled stupidity (made all the cringier with the benefit of hindsight).

What did Trump do wrong to LGBT people other than not allowing trans people to join the military which, while bad, is extremely minor.

Oh man...

- Nearly one-third of Trump’s judicial nominees have anti-LGBTQ records, according to Lambda Legal. These nominees, if accepted by the Senate, may rule on major LGBTQ issues over the next few years, from anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQ workers to trans access to bathrooms.

- The Trump administration rescinded a nonbinding Obama-era guidance that told K-12 schools that receive federal funding that trans students are protected under federal civil rights law and, therefore, schools should respect trans students’ rights, including their right to use bathrooms and locker rooms that align with their gender identity. The Trump administration took back the guidance altogether, arguing trans students aren’t protected under federal civil rights law.

- Trump’s Justice Department also rescinded another Obama-era memo that said trans workers are protected under civil rights law. This has enabled the federal government, including its army of attorneys, to now argue in court that anti-trans discrimination isn’t illegal under federal law. The courts are ultimately independent of the Trump administration, but the federal government can play a big role in legal arguments by throwing its people and resources behind a case.

- In a major Supreme Court case, Masterpiece Cakeshop Ltd. v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, the Trump administration argued in court in favor of Masterpiece Cakeshop, a bakery that’s claiming First Amendment rights to discriminate against same-sex couples. The case could have potentially enormous repercussions — opening a big loophole in anti-discrimination laws, particularly those that protect LGBTQ people, by letting business owners cite religious or moral justifications to discriminate.

- Trump’s Justice Department argued that anti-gay discrimination is legal, filing a friend-of-the-court brief claiming that the federal Civil Rights Act doesn’t protect gay and bisexual workers. The lawsuit in this case was filed by Donald Zarda, a skydiving instructor who says an employer, Altitude Express, fired him due to his sexual orientation. The Justice Department in effect argued that this was legal under federal law.

- The Justice Department has similarly taken anti-LGBTQ steps in other cases across the country, including one about North Carolina’s anti-trans bathroom law and one about discrimination against trans people in health care. “We’ve gone from a position where LGBT people are protected to one where we’re not,” Esseks of the ACLU said.

- The Trump administration sent out a “religious liberty” guidance to federal agencies, essentially asking them to respect “religious-liberty protections” in all of the federal government’s work. It’s unclear what kind of impact the guidance will have, but LGBTQ organizations worry that it will be used to justify discrimination against LGBTQ people within the federal government and its work.

- The Department of Health and Human Services enacted a new regulation and created an agency, the Division of Conscience and Religious Freedom, that will purportedly work to ensure health care providers’ religious liberties aren’t violated. LGBTQ groups argue this agency will effectively give doctors, nurses, and other medical staff cover to discriminate against LGBTQ people, because providers will now get protection from the federal government if they cite religious or moral objections to refuse service to LGBTQ patients.

- Without explanation, Trump fired all the members of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS. “It’s outstanding,” Isaacs said. “HIV isn’t only in the LGBTQ community, but it largely is.”

And now this: Trump expands federal contractors' ability to cite religious freedom in discrimination cases

[Aellex]

HAH, implying Western Civ can be saved.

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

Disgusting and shameful. Your ingratitude at the civilisation that lets you hold your bullshit beliefs rather than send you to prison for them is duly noted.

"Western civilization" couldn't even hold a single nation from the classical era relatively intact all the way into the modern age. Clearly, Chinese civilization is the superior one.

>that moment when you fail to realize that France, U. K., Italy and Germany are different names for Gallia, Britannica, Roma and Germania.
>that moment when you don't realize Greece has still essentially the same borders

I mean, the fact you used as an exemple a nation that spent the last two millenias fracturing into tens of smaller feuding states should be telling about the level of bullshit already but well...

[Firaxin]

HAH, implying Western Civ can be saved.

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

I'm going to have to disagree here, western civilization was the gateway to the left wing in the first place, besides eastern civilization isn't better by any value. In fact why even use "western" or "eastern" civilization, the west has little in common other than being to the west.

[Frievolk]

HAH, implying Western Civ can be saved.

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

For some reason, this post really really offends me. And I'm not even a Westerner :/

[Valrifell]

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

I'm going to have to disagree here, western civilization was the gateway to the left wing in the first place, besides eastern civilization isn't better by any value. In fact why even use "western" or "eastern" civilization, the west has little in common other than being to the west.

So why put it in a broad camp of "the West"?

[Firaxin]

I'm going to have to disagree here, western civilization was the gateway to the left wing in the first place, besides eastern civilization isn't better by any value. In fact why even use "western" or "eastern" civilization, the west has little in common other than being to the west.

So why put it in a broad camp of "the West"?

The countries commonly referenced under western civilization are in the direction of the west, from the center of europe.

[Pasong Tirad]

>Implying Western civilization ever deserved to exist in the first place

lel

I'm going to have to disagree here, western civilization was the gateway to the left wing in the first place, besides eastern civilization isn't better by any value. In fact why even use "western" or "eastern" civilization, the west has little in common other than being to the west.

*laughs in Australian*

*chuckles in Kiwi*

[Communist Xomaniax]

Ever since I first learned about Project Cybersyn I've wondered how effective it would have been. It managed to beat a very large CIA backed strike so who knows? Maybe modern leftists should look to things like it.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Ever since I first learned about Project Cybersyn I've wondered how effective it would have been. It managed to beat a very large CIA backed strike so who knows? Maybe modern leftists should look to things like it.

Looks a bit like the Venus Project or the Zeitgeist Movement.