LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Kannap]

About time to pretend I understand politics.

[Torrocca]

About time to pretend I understand politics.

Join us in our local Anarchist Permanent Autonomous Zone known as the LWDT >:3

[Torrocca]

And we have a new, simple little poll for people to weigh their most basic of opinions on Leftism. :3

[Bakery Hill]

And we have a new, simple little poll for people to weigh their most basic of opinions on Leftism. :3

the dichotomy in the poll really does not exist

[Dahon]

Let's see... "left-libertarianism" sounds suspiciously like anarchism, and I'm most definitely not that (though left to my own devices I'd let people be people), and authoritarianism of any kind is monstrously repellent to me, so here's to donning my mathematical cap and stroking my non-Euclidean beard as I select

[Torrocca]

And we have a new, simple little poll for people to weigh their most basic of opinions on Leftism. :3

the dichotomy in the poll really does not exist

Hmmmmmmmmm

Let's see... "left-libertarianism" sounds suspiciously like anarchism, and I'm most definitely not that (though left to my own devices I'd let people be people), and authoritarianism of any kind is monstrously repellent to me, so here's to donning my mathematical cap and stroking my non-Euclidean beard as I select

Left-Libertarianism is a bit more than just Anarchism, ngl. Left-Coms, DemSocs, SocDems, regular Marxists, and other groups fall under the scope as well.

[Conserative Morality]

Let's see... "left-libertarianism" sounds suspiciously like anarchism, and I'm most definitely not that (though left to my own devices I'd let people be people), and authoritarianism of any kind is monstrously repellent to me, so here's to donning my mathematical cap and stroking my non-Euclidean beard as I select

Why is authoritarianism repellent?

[Greater Germany]

Let's see... "left-libertarianism" sounds suspiciously like anarchism, and I'm most definitely not that (though left to my own devices I'd let people be people), and authoritarianism of any kind is monstrously repellent to me, so here's to donning my mathematical cap and stroking my non-Euclidean beard as I select

Why is authoritarianism repellent?

Association with tyrants?

[Dahon]

And we have a new, simple little poll for people to weigh their most basic of opinions on Leftism. :3

the dichotomy in the poll really does not exist

"at the end of the day we're all stinking commies"

jk

[Zakuvia]

Why is authoritarianism repellent?

Association with tyrants?

This. Radical societal change, combined with increased authority of the central government, typically equals some of the worst dictatorships in human history.

[Ostroeuropa]

I don't believe in anarchism as a viable philosophy and so long as there is government it should be nationalistic. I think national narratives and mythologies are important to human psyche and naturally occurring, and if not given outlets to manifest will result in problems.

I am not going to defend anarchism, since, as a Marxist, my diagnosis of the source of the problems afflicting society differs.

However, there is a huge difference between nationalism and patriotism. Nationalism is a belief that national interests transcend international ones. Patriotism is pride in one's country. I fully admit to being neither nationalistic nor patriotic, but I have also seen the two terms frequently confused with one another.

This isn't accurate in any sense, firstly one of the lay definitions of nationalism is patriotism. Secondly in terms of the political ideology, it's more than simple pride in ones country or patriotism.

Nationalism is a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty (self-governance) over the homeland. The political ideology of nationalism holds that a nation should govern itself, free from outside interference and is linked to the concept of self-determination. Nationalism is further oriented towards developing and maintaining a national identity based on shared, social characteristics, such as culture and language, religion and politics, and a belief in a common ancestry.[1][2] Nationalism, therefore, seeks to preserve a nation's culture, by way of pride in national achievements, and is closely linked to patriotism, which, in some cases, includes the belief that the nation should control the country's government and the means of production.

You are discussing ultranationalism.

Ultranationalism is an "extreme nationalism that promotes the interest of one state or people above all others"

[United Muscovite Nations]

I wouldn't necessarily call myself a left-libertarian, because I very strongly believe that there are social duties and morals that should be required, that said, I'm basically a Christian Anarchist at this point, so that's what I voted for in the poll.

[Kannap]

About time to pretend I understand politics.

Join us in our local Anarchist Permanent Autonomous Zone known as the LWDT >:3

Don't really know much about the political spectrum but I do know I lean left.

[Torrocca]

Join us in our local Anarchist Permanent Autonomous Zone known as the LWDT >:3

Don't really know much about the political spectrum but I do know I lean left.

Alright, I'd say your general outlook on social issues, economic issues, and hierarchies/the lack thereof would be more determinate of where you'd lie on the spectrum.

This is one kinda test you can take, but there's way more online.

[Genivaria]

I wouldn't necessarily call myself a left-libertarian, because I very strongly believe that there are social duties and morals that should be required, that said, I'm basically a Christian Anarchist at this point, so that's what I voted for in the poll.

I blinked twice at this, I thought you were still a Planned Economy, Monarchist type.

[Silver Commonwealth]

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 4.2&s=55.9

Here are my 8value test results. Although I got ''democratic socialist'' as a result, I don't really consider myself as such. I would rather consider myself as a socdem, who is a bit more left than usual socdems.

[Liriena]

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 5.0&s=94.7

Communist, internationalist, anarchist, revolutionary

Hell yeah, libertarian socialism :3

[United Muscovite Nations]

I wouldn't necessarily call myself a left-libertarian, because I very strongly believe that there are social duties and morals that should be required, that said, I'm basically a Christian Anarchist at this point, so that's what I voted for in the poll.

I blinked twice at this, I thought you were still a Planned Economy, Monarchist type.

I still support monarchy, but my leanings are also towards anarchy.

[Torrocca]

My new 8values test.

Almost exactly as I expected it to be, tbh :3

[Silver Commonwealth]

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=91.5&d=86.7&g=95.0&s=94.7

Communist, internationalist, anarchist, revolutionary

Hell yeah, libertarian socialism :3

I also took PolitiScales test a time ago. My results were mostly the same, and pretty center, just as in 8values test. In fact, my percentage of nationalism and internationalism was the same - 29%, with 42% in the middle.

[Conserative Morality]

Demsoc Socialist, balanced, liberal, very progressive

[Hammer Britannia]

My new 8values test.

Almost exactly as I expected it to be, tbh :3

>More than 2 percent authoritarian

I always knew you were a tankie Torc

[Eodor]

My new 8values test.

Almost exactly as I expected it to be, tbh :3

Very disappointed at such a small international and progressivism number

[Torrocca]

My new 8values test.

Almost exactly as I expected it to be, tbh :3

>More than 2 percent authoritarian

I always knew you were a tankie Torc

fuqq i've been called out

time for me to go commit gulags

Demsoc Socialist, balanced, liberal, very progressive

>DemSoc
>Literally just spent yesterday arguing for an American imperial hegemony over the world

:thonk:

[Genivaria]

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=91.5&d=86.7&g=95.0&s=94.7

Communist, internationalist, anarchist, revolutionary

Hell yeah, libertarian socialism :3

Here's me.
Socialist, Peaceful, Liberal, Very Progressive.
Libertarian Socialist.
https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 4.6&s=79.9