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Which Form of Leftism is The Best?

Left-Libertarianism
125
55%
Yes
66
29%
Left-Authoritarianism
37
16%
 
Total votes : 228

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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I'm voting McAfee nerd


But will you get a complimentary whale to have intercourse with on top of that?

Yes, I too keep up with the McAfee tweets.

With luck, perhaps.

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I'm voting McAfee nerd

John "Whale Fucker" McAfee is also a personal favorite.

based McAfee, the best man who may be a candidate
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Pasong Tirad
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:32 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Welcome to the #Resistance, remember to vote in the primaries!

Lol the """"""""""""""""""""Resistance"""""""""""""""""""" is a joke and a disgrace to actual resistance movements throughout history.

Unironically this.

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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:32 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
But will you get a complimentary whale to have intercourse with on top of that?

Yes, I too keep up with the McAfee tweets.

With luck, perhaps.

Pasong Tirad wrote:John "Whale Fucker" McAfee is also a personal favorite.

based McAfee, the best man who may be a candidate


I'm still gonna vote for Naked Dancing Man in the primaries. God bless you, 2016 Orlando Libertarian Rally. You were a star we were undeserving of.
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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:33 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Lol the """"""""""""""""""""Resistance"""""""""""""""""""" is a joke and a disgrace to actual resistance movements throughout history.


Whoa now, you're saying that a mere vote and an epic 240-character Twitter takedown isn't the pinnacle of resisting tyranny? Color me shocked!

You just triggered all of the verified people on Twitter who bravely fight Trump's Tweet tyranny.
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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:33 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:With luck, perhaps.


based McAfee, the best man who may be a candidate


I'm still gonna vote for Naked Dancing Man in the primaries. God bless you, 2016 Orlando Libertarian Rally. You were a star we were undeserving of.

At least you're voting for the best party.
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Greater Westralia
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Postby Greater Westralia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:34 pm

Will Connolly committed assault, he should have thrown the egg like all other good eggers.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:36 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Whoa now, you're saying that a mere vote and an epic 240-character Twitter takedown isn't the pinnacle of resisting tyranny? Color me shocked!

You just triggered all of the verified people on Twitter who bravely fight Trump's Tweet tyranny.


T'was terrible of me to touch the Twitter Tweeters who take on Trump's Twittering Tyranny.

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'm still gonna vote for Naked Dancing Man in the primaries. God bless you, 2016 Orlando Libertarian Rally. You were a star we were undeserving of.

At least you're voting for the best party.


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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:39 pm

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Byzconia
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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:40 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Welcome to the #Resistance, remember to vote in the primaries!

Lol the """"""""""""""""""""Resistance"""""""""""""""""""" is a joke and a disgrace to actual resistance movements throughout history.

Bravely "resisting" Trump by giving him a larger military budget and more spying powers while simultaneously claiming he's a puppet of the Kremlin. I don't know what you're talking about, sounds like the Free French Resistance could've learned a thing or two from these folks!
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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:41 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:At least you're voting for the best party.


Vermin Supreme is an AnCom after my own heart. Fight me :^)

He was a registered Republican and an anarcho-mutualist 10 years ago.
Who knows what he thinks now.
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Ostroeuropa
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:41 pm

Far-right now the most popular party in the Netherlands, winning the most votes.

Talking points:
Purge universities of cultural marxism
Race and IQ are related
"A return to a Boreal society" (White)


Worth noting that no other parties offered alternatives to mainstream neoliberalism and progressivism.

“We are standing amidst the debris of what was once the greatest and most beautiful civilization the world has ever known,” he said, adding that “we are undermined by our universities, our journalists … and administrators.”


The Dutch senate has now entered a situation similar to the UK parliament.

The mainstream right wing has lost its majority but remains the largest bloc of parties, is opposed by socialists and the far-right.

Nobody can command a majority, and gridlock will occur.

Weimarism in full swing across Europe.
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Byzconia
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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:

"They might just grow up to call you an anti-Semitic Communist on Twitter!"
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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Byzconia wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Lol the """"""""""""""""""""Resistance"""""""""""""""""""" is a joke and a disgrace to actual resistance movements throughout history.

Bravely "resisting" Trump by giving him a larger military budget and more spying powers while simultaneously claiming he's a puppet of the Kremlin. I don't know what you're talking about, sounds like the Free French Resistance could've learned a thing or two from these folks!

Clearly the French Resistance should have given Hitler more money for the Wehrmacht.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Vermin Supreme is an AnCom after my own heart. Fight me :^)

He was a registered Republican and an anarcho-mutualist 10 years ago.
Who knows what he thinks now.


He believes in mutual aid and a lotta other AnCom things, famalam. He's got my vote. :^)

People can change in ten years, y'know.
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Saiwania
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:Nah fuck that shit. Fascists and the white supremacist types like Anning don't deserve platforms, they deserve to get egged in speaking engagements and get called a shitcunt in public.


They do deserve platforms if they got elected into power fair and square. People can only take so much of what the Left offers before there is backlash and a reversal if the Left's program is making everything worse objectively speaking.
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Byzconia
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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:45 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Far-right now the most popular party in the Netherlands, winning the most votes.

Talking points:
Purge universities of cultural marxism
Race and IQ are related
"A return to a Boreal society" (White)


Worth noting that no other parties offered alternatives to mainstream neoliberalism and progressivism.

That's because the political and economic establishment has nothing to lose by allowing Nazis to win.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:46 pm

Byzconia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Far-right now the most popular party in the Netherlands, winning the most votes.

Talking points:
Purge universities of cultural marxism
Race and IQ are related
"A return to a Boreal society" (White)


Worth noting that no other parties offered alternatives to mainstream neoliberalism and progressivism.

That's because the political and economic establishment has nothing to lose by allowing Nazis to win.


If that were true they would have curbed mass migration already. The problem is progressives crippling support for the left wing.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:54 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Vermin Supreme is an AnCom after my own heart. Fight me :^)

He was a registered Republican and an anarcho-mutualist 10 years ago.
Who knows what he thinks now.


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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:54 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Nah fuck that shit. Fascists and the white supremacist types like Anning don't deserve platforms, they deserve to get egged in speaking engagements and get called a shitcunt in public.


They do deserve platforms if they got elected into power fair and square. People can only take so much of what the Left offers before there is backlash and a reversal if the Left's program is making everything worse objectively speaking.

lol fuck no
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:55 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
They do deserve platforms if they got elected into power fair and square. People can only take so much of what the Left offers before there is backlash and a reversal if the Left's program is making everything worse objectively speaking.

lol fuck no


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Postby Valrifell » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:56 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:lol fuck no


^


What they said (but better).
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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:56 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Byzconia wrote:That's because the political and economic establishment has nothing to lose by allowing Nazis to win.


If that were true they would have curbed mass migration already. The problem is progressives crippling support for the left wing.

Not necessarily. In practice "anti-immigrant" parties are rhetorical only. Sure, they'd definitely make migration harder in some aspects, but they'd still value the cheap reserve labor force that migrants offer.

Your second point is spot-on though, but it relates back to my point. The "left-wing" (read: progressive, social democrats, and Third Way centrists) establishment in most countries are more afraid of socialists than they are of Nazis.
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Saiwania
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:59 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:lol fuck no


Yes! Brexit and the right winning in the Netherlands is only the beginning. The dawn of a right wing sweep and new order across Europe and the wider western world is coming and soon!
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:


Yes! Brexit and the right winning in the Netherlands is only the beginning. The dawn of a right wing sweep and new order across Europe and the wider western world is coming and soon!


He said, as Brexit and the Conservative led British government enter it's *checks notes* third year of perpetual infighting and collapse.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:


Yes! Brexit and the right winning in the Netherlands is only the beginning. The dawn of a right wing sweep and new order across Europe and the wider western world is coming and soon!

So what you're saying is we have to shoot a bunch of Nazis all over again?

What the hell, I'm game.
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