LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Liriena]

https://www.twitter.com/ABC/status/1083815921142153217

Alex Jones just got cucked in a court of law and it's wonderful.

[Kubra]

https://www.twitter.com/ABC/status/1083815921142153217

Alex Jones just got cucked in a court of law and it's wonderful.

It's a conspiracy!

[Aellex]

The catalans have spend quite a long time being fucked over for being catalan. That sort of thing tends to solidify cultural-lingustic identity to the same degree that it is diminshed (you know, you get some folks to drop it, but the folks who don't *really* don't). Civic nationalism is great and all, but ideas don't take hold in a vaccuum, and the historical relation of Spain to Catalonia is one such place where folks aren't really in a likely position to decide they like it.

>when everyone bitch and moan about how Spain is treating the Catalans but they forget about what happened to the other half of their """country"""

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The catalans have spend quite a long time being fucked over for being catalan. That sort of thing tends to solidify cultural-lingustic identity to the same degree that it is diminshed (you know, you get some folks to drop it, but the folks who don't *really* don't). Civic nationalism is great and all, but ideas don't take hold in a vaccuum, and the historical relation of Spain to Catalonia is one such place where folks aren't really in a likely position to decide they like it.

>when everyone bitch and moan about how Spain is treating the Catalans but they forget about what happened to the other half of their """country"""

What do you mean, exactly?

It reminds me of something, but I can't quite pinpoint what it is...

[Aellex]

What do you mean, exactly?

It reminds me of something, but I can't quite pinpoint what it is...

Let's just say based Jules Ferry did absolutely nothing wrong. :^)

[Aellex]

I can make predictions based on trends. There's a fork in the road, and only two forks. There is a pack of rabid dogs running you down the road. You have no defense. Your only options are to take the fascist fork, or the left libertarian fork. The fascist fork offers the path of least action, least resistance, but it ends in a cliff. The left lib fork requires a sharp turn, and difficult terrain, but it is also the only way to salvation.

That's a very shitty and self-serving metaphor you have there.

Imagine unironically thinking it makes sense.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

What do you mean, exactly?

It reminds me of something, but I can't quite pinpoint what it is...

Let's just say based Jules Ferry did absolutely nothing wrong. :^)

...It's fucking Rousillon, isn't it?

[Aellex]

Let's just say based Jules Ferry did absolutely nothing wrong. :^)

...It's fucking Rousillon, isn't it?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I don't see what you're talking about at all. "Perpignan" doesn't sounds Catalan at all, wouldn't you agree? ;'D

[Western Vale Confederacy]

...It's fucking Rousillon, isn't it?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I don't see what you're talking about at all. "Perpignan" doesn't sounds Catalan at all, wouldn't you agree? ;'D

Come to think of it, you genuinely have a good point.

The Catalans constantly screech at Spain like they're the source of all ills in the world, yet they seem to have conveniently forgotten that not only France made invading, occupying and cucking Catalonia a fucking hobby until the Napoleonic Wars, but have effectively absorbed a chunk of Greater Catalonia and almost entirely erased its identity...

Yet it's fucking Spain that somehow gets blamed.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I just realized that Bakery Hill's an ex-nation. Anyone know what happened to the,?

[Aellex]

Come to think of it, you genuinely have a good point.

The Catalans constantly screech at Spain like they're the source of all ills in the world, yet they seem to have conveniently forgotten that not only France made invading, occupying and cucking Catalonia a fucking hobby until the Napoleonic Wars, but have effectively absorbed a chunk of Greater Catalonia and almost entirely erased its identity...

Yet it's fucking Spain that somehow gets blamed.

We'll be back to finish our work after they secede. The natural borders shall be restored one line on the map at a time and the département de catalogne will be happily welcomed back into the fold where it truly belongs.

[Liriena]

Holy crap, I just found out that I missed some epic shit going down with some of the most prominent right-wingers in this forum.

Mardla gone (hopefully to a gay bar so he can stop his constant thirstposting), Nap gone (apparently because he tried to pull a Mike Cernovich on fellow NSGers like a dumbass?), UMN gone (the only one I'm actually gonna miss, tbh)

[Proctopeo]

Holy crap, I just found out that I missed some epic shit going down with some of the most prominent right-wingers in this forum.

Mardla gone (hopefully to a gay bar so he can stop his constant thirstposting), Nap gone (apparently because he tried to pull a Mike Cernovich on fellow NSGers like a dumbass?), UMN gone (the only one I'm actually gonna miss, tbh)

Mardla and Nap did nothing wrong.

[Autarkheia]

Then you have chosen to become a heli-memer fash.

(Image)

Centrists are crypto-fascist, duh.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Holy crap, I just found out that I missed some epic shit going down with some of the most prominent right-wingers in this forum.

Mardla gone (hopefully to a gay bar so he can stop his constant thirstposting), Nap gone (apparently because he tried to pull a Mike Cernovich on fellow NSGers like a dumbass?), UMN gone (the only one I'm actually gonna miss, tbh)

Talk about the right-wing block collapsing...

Now only the moderates and centrists remain!

[Liriena]

Holy crap, I just found out that I missed some epic shit going down with some of the most prominent right-wingers in this forum.

Mardla gone (hopefully to a gay bar so he can stop his constant thirstposting), Nap gone (apparently because he tried to pull a Mike Cernovich on fellow NSGers like a dumbass?), UMN gone (the only one I'm actually gonna miss, tbh)

Mardla and Nap did nothing wrong.

Mardla is a virulent homophobe who loves to inject inflammatory language into his defamatory commentary on LGBT+ people, and Nap harassed and slandered three posters as "pedo defenders".

[Liriena]

Then you have chosen to become a heli-memer fash.

(Image)

Centrists are crypto-fascist, duh.

You, a smol brain: horse shoe theory

Me, an intellectual: fish hook theory

[Liriena]

Holy crap, I just found out that I missed some epic shit going down with some of the most prominent right-wingers in this forum.

Mardla gone (hopefully to a gay bar so he can stop his constant thirstposting), Nap gone (apparently because he tried to pull a Mike Cernovich on fellow NSGers like a dumbass?), UMN gone (the only one I'm actually gonna miss, tbh)

Talk about the right-wing block collapsing...

Now only the moderates and centrists remain!

And the left. We will sustain ourselves with that sweet mana from the heavens that is the constant right-wing self-owning.

[Proctopeo]

Mardla and Nap did nothing wrong.

Mardla is a virulent homophobe who loves to inject inflammatory language into his defamatory commentary on LGBT+ people, and Nap harassed and slandered three posters as "pedo defenders".

I think you missed a lot.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Talk about the right-wing block collapsing...

Now only the moderates and centrists remain!

And the left. We will sustain ourselves with that sweet mana from the heavens that is the constant right-wing self-owning.

Sometimes I wonder what happened to the pragmatic centrists...

[Liriena]

Mardla is a virulent homophobe who loves to inject inflammatory language into his defamatory commentary on LGBT+ people, and Nap harassed and slandered three posters as "pedo defenders".

I think you missed a lot.

I've been catching up on it all. Nap deserved what he got, and Mardla was unequivocally a bigot.

That being said, thanks for confirming the axiom that right-libs will always side with fashies and reactionaries.

And the left. We will sustain ourselves with that sweet mana from the heavens that is the constant right-wing self-owning.

Sometimes I wonder what happened to the pragmatic centrists...

I kinda feel like "pragmatist centrists" were never really a thing. If anything, centrists seem to have always been overwhelmingly on the idealistic side. At best you had third-way figures like Perón.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I think you missed a lot.

I've been catching up on it all. Nap deserved what he got, and Mardla was unequivocally a bigot.

That being said, thanks for confirming the axiom that right-libs will always side with fashies and reactionaries.

Sometimes I wonder what happened to the pragmatic centrists...

I kinda feel like "pragmatist centrists" were never really a thing. If anything, centrists seem to have always been overwhelmingly on the idealistic side. At best you had third-way figures like Perón.

I agree with ideals that are traditionally considered right-wing such as family values and national pride, but some of its more extreme beliefs...I just cannot bring myself to believe 'em.

[Autarkheia]

And the left. We will sustain ourselves with that sweet mana from the heavens that is the constant right-wing self-owning.

Right: Let's wear diapers to trigger the leftards
Left: Let's sit back and watch the right own themselves

[Dumb Ideologies]

Some of us have friends among those who have gone.

Do not gloatpost, I am soft.

[Liriena]

I've been catching up on it all. Nap deserved what he got, and Mardla was unequivocally a bigot.

That being said, thanks for confirming the axiom that right-libs will always side with fashies and reactionaries.


I kinda feel like "pragmatist centrists" were never really a thing. If anything, centrists seem to have always been overwhelmingly on the idealistic side. At best you had third-way figures like Perón.

I agree with ideals that are traditionally considered right-wing such as family values and national pride, but some of its more extreme beliefs...I just cannot bring myself to believe 'em.

I don't really agree with either of those ideals at all, and that might have a lot to do with me growing up in a society where I could see the terrible, negative consequences of both. National pride got us into the Falklands War, one of the most pointless and embarrassing wastes of Argentine lives ever. It also got turned into a propaganda tool for some very awful people (see, how our last dictatorship manipulated national pride through the 1978 football world cup). And as for right-wing family values... well, let's just say I wouldn't wish an Opus Dei upbringing on my worst enemy.

However, I do understand the appeal of both. We live in an era of increasing social atomization and alienation, meaning that many of us struggle with the feeling like our existence is very solitary and has no greater meaning. National pride and family values are simple, comfortable solutions to this problem, considering that they are traditional, built into our cultural hegemony and thus easier to embrace than a more forward-thinking, emancipatory alternative. I can empathize with people, specially older people, who can feel the stress provoked by isolation and yearn for the olden days of closely knit family structures and community life.