LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

What should be done in response to South Africas escalating actions against whites in their nation?

Before or after we bask in the irony?

Ah yes, let's laugh as the incoming second wave of retornados (my maternal family being part of said group) as the Boers and Anglo-Africans, two Caucasian cultural group living in South Africa since the mid-17th century and early 19th century respectively get their human rights shat on.

[Torrocca]

What should be done in response to South Africas escalating actions against whites in their nation?

As we all know, of course, in this left-wing thread where we argue for the liberty of all people, it's blatantly obvious that the white South Africans deserve to be completely and utterly eradicated. Let's let them be driven into a bloody ocean of genocide, of course.

[Genivaria]

Before or after we bask in the irony?

Ah yes, let's laugh as the incoming second wave of retornados (my maternal family being part of said group) as the Boers and Anglo-Africans, two Caucasian cultural group living in South Africa since the mid-17th century and early 19th century respectively get their human rights shat on.

Before or after we bask in the irony?

The Black peoples ancestors in south africa overwhelmingly arrived after the White people, and actually genocided the original black inhabitants who the whites were trading with before losing their attempt to do the same to the whites (At first, it would seem.).

Apartheid was ended through international action to end officially sanctioned racist government in south africa. There is nothing ironic about it returning unless you subscribe to a tribalist view of racial equality.

Furthermore their officials are now regularly ranting about killing whites, how their time is up, and so on, and violence against white south africans has been persistent for years now, at about double the average murder rate (That average itself being inflated by crime against white south africans.).
Beyond that you've got organized rape against them and so on.

So it seems to me you've got a genocidal and violent invader culture doing precisely what the Apartheid government said they would do the moment they were given the right to vote.

There's no irony there. It's just a matter of anti-white hatred and racism against whites that has infested our view of the world that would make people think so.

Ending apartheid and then not defending the situation we put into place and forcing the south african government to stick to racial equality isn't progress, isn't ironic, and isn't justice. It is merely an example of how the toxic progressive worldview is anti-white in practice.

I apologize that my dry sarcasm didn't translate through text, that's on me.

[Ostroeuropa]

What should be done in response to South Africas escalating actions against whites in their nation?

As we all know, of course, in this left-wing thread where we argue for the liberty of all people, it's blatantly obvious that the white South Africans deserve to be completely and utterly eradicated. Let's let them be driven into a bloody ocean of genocide, of course.

I think it says a lot about the decay in our institutions and our society that we aren't prepared to defend these people from officially sponsored government sanctioned racism because of their skin color.

You might get people opposing it, but where is the actual effort to do something about it?

You know what CNN did?
They put the "Kill white people" South african president on their show to say that Trump is lying to the public, that he is a racist, and there is no racism against whites in south africa as racism against whites isn't possible because power+privilege, and whites are working with the government on this (A lie), and CNN just boosted that narrative.

What the fuck does that tell you?

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Ah yes, let's laugh as the incoming second wave of retornados (my maternal family being part of said group) as the Boers and Anglo-Africans, two Caucasian cultural group living in South Africa since the mid-17th century and early 19th century respectively get their human rights shat on.

I apologize that my dry sarcasm didn't translate through text, that's on me.

The near-entirety of my maternal family experienced firsthand what it's like for an entire ethno-cultural group to be purged from the lands they called home (some having been here since the late 16th century) by another revanchist ethno-cultural group, and God forbid it happens to the Boers and Anglo-Africans.

[Genivaria]

As we all know, of course, in this left-wing thread where we argue for the liberty of all people, it's blatantly obvious that the white South Africans deserve to be completely and utterly eradicated. Let's let them be driven into a bloody ocean of genocide, of course.

I think it says a lot about the decay in our institutions and our society that we aren't prepared to defend these people from officially sponsored government sanctioned racism because of their skin color.

You might get people opposing it, but where is the actual effort to do something about it?

Apartheid South Africa got international condemnation and embargoes right?
So I'd say that's the minimum standard at this point.

[Ostroeuropa]

I think it says a lot about the decay in our institutions and our society that we aren't prepared to defend these people from officially sponsored government sanctioned racism because of their skin color.

You might get people opposing it, but where is the actual effort to do something about it?

Apartheid South Africa got international condemnation and embargoes right?
So I'd say that's the minimum standard at this point.

These people don't care about the economy. They're willingly pushing a situation where South Africa is on the brink of collapse already and are going to worsen it. We're dealing with a genocidally racist ideology not interested in prosperity or stability, they actively want to make white south africans leave the country or die because they hate them.

They're going to lose about 20% of their educated citizens over the next year according to internal polling on those preparing to leave, and many of those who can afford to leave already are.

The whites who will actually bare the brunt of this violence and racist policy are those who were not actually beneficiaries of apartheid and are too poor or low skilled to leave. The beneficiaries will have left already.

[Ostroeuropa]

How much responsibility will progressives take for fostering lack of concern for an upcoming genocide with their persistent toleration of open contempt and hostility to white people and defending the practice?

From their active and persistent attempts to mask anti-white racism as fair and equitable, and to foster hatred for whites by pretending racism is something they alone do to others, all while engaging in anti-white racism themselves at the same time. (Ignoring inter-minority racism because it's not about racism, not really, it's about hating whites.).

Just how many incidents would it take for you to stop arguing this hateful crap? The answer is never, you will never stop arguing it, because each instance of anti-white racism you refuse to count because "it doesn't exist.". We've seen how your toxic and hateful shit plays out with the feminist movement. Do you want all the bullshit men put up with happening to whites on a similar scale?

Had you been keeping a tally you'd realize it exists and is quite prevalent. But because it's set at 0 in your mind and that justifies dismissing each and every example that arises, there is nothing that can force you to change that, not if you are dogmatically determined to keep adhering to this hate ideology you have where you discount cruelty against people being wrong on the basis of their race.

You might be shocked out of it when you realize the consequences of your constant shilling for racism, hostility, and contempt for a demographic, you might get squeamish, but there's no logic that can convince you, because you have not reasoned your way into this position. You will only stop arguing this crap when you stop having contempt for white people, and that's probably going to take some major abuses of their human rights for most of you to finally feel empathy for them instead of contempt.

Since your kind have overrun the media, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets ignored either as inconvenient to their narrative, so maybe not even then.

Oh sure you're not trying to actively disposses and slaughter whites, you're not THAT bad. You're just the kind of people who foster a sentiment akin to the one that made governments turn away ships full of Jews during the holocaust, much better.

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[Reikoku]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

I actually read 'em, though.

[Pasong Tirad]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

Do we take shots or big swigs?

[Benuty]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

I have to disagree with you here. You only waste alcohol when the subject matter isn't interesting as is the normal tradition.

[Benuty]

Only savages drink full alcohol outside of religious services or competitions prove me wrong.

[Benuty]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

Do we take shots or big swigs?

For a competition you slowly take a big swig otherwise you dilute the drink for it to take longer.

[Mattopilos II]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

If you want to cull nationstates of users, that would be a perfect way to do it. I already get the loss of brain cells trying to read through them without thinking I am a blog as it is though. Maybe I should drink alongside it.

I would drink every time they make a shitty metaphor about the Nazis and Jews for people he doesn't like, but the number of drinks would still be the same.

Maybe I should go for "every-time they link to a google search", since at least that would be smaller. Huge, but smaller.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Only savages drink full alcohol outside of religious services or competitions prove me wrong.

I drink no alcohol whatsoever. Does that make me a saint? Hardly.

[Kowani]

There really needs to be a drinking game for every time Ostro goes on a spiel that nobody's going to read.

Do we take shots or big swigs?

Doesn’t matter, your liver’ll die either way.

[Pasong Tirad]

Do we take shots or big swigs?

Doesn’t matter, your liver’ll die either way.

Pfffft. Only if I was a child.

[Dumb Ideologies]

True, but you're going to need a vat of sugar and a capacity-full reservoir of water to get that pill swallowed by our anarchist and libertarian communist friends.

Considering I've consistently argued against labeling numerous right-wing authoritarians (mostly Salazar and Franco) "fascist," I think it's safe to say that you're just heavily strawmanning rather than offering actual arguments why people who idolize Hitler and other NSDAP leaders aren't Nazis.

I'm aware that you don't - at least openly - hold such a position. Then again, you are neither an anarchist nor a libertarian communist, so your stance is not what the post is referring to. There's regular discussions here and on the discord about punching "Nazis", with that term regularly being expanded even to anyone who is suspected of ever having been in the same room with someone suspected of being a crypto-fascist, thus supposedly enabling them. Given such attitudes, it is hardly a strawman to say that restraining from calling right-wing or nationalist authoritarians Nazis would be a difficult pill for a number of people to swallow - and certainly a very difficult one to keep down given the tendency to eventually grudgingly semi-admit it and then go right back to their previous behaviour of supporting antifa-type behaviours.

[Asherahan]

Progressive left authoritarianism is best Authoritarianism.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Progressive left authoritarianism is best Authoritarianism.

"Best authoritarianism" is like "best fecal matter."

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

You're telling me that you know who Greg Johnson is, but are expecting me to believe you can honestly think that white nationalism and Neo Nazism aren't identical? Whew boy, you're sure taking me for a fool.

White Nationalism and Neo-Naziism aren't identical. For one thing, White Nationalism does not harbor globally genocidal ambitions. It may harbor global empire and segregation ambitions, but that is qualitatively different.

America invaded the Phillipines and turned it into a vassal and exploited its workers for being non-whites while not wanting them to immigrate to the states and wanted them segregated in that sense away from the White Nation.
It didn't turn up and decide to industrially kill all of them and replace them with white people because they were genetically undesirable.

Not identical, but very similar. Both white nationalists and Nazis generally support protectionism, traditionalism and state subsidised private property, and oppose democracy, racial equality and freedom of speech.

[Asherahan]

Progressive left authoritarianism is best Authoritarianism.

"Best authoritarianism" is like "best fecal matter."

Scary part is I am not memeing.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

I'm leaning towards actual lefty socialism.

Help me.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I'm leaning towards actual lefty socialism.

Help me.

Can you tell me the difference between "lefty-socialism" and "right-wing socialism?"